Man critically hurt in fight over bar game

Nov 14, 2012 | Posted by: roboblogger | Full story: Clover Herald

A 44-year-old St. Louis County man is hospitalized in critical condition after a fight during a washers tournament.

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Nov 15, 2012
 
randy fager was taken off life support this morning, he is brain dead, rest in peace randy we'll miss you. i hope you rot in hell tom wehmer, you will get yours.
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Nov 15, 2012
 
Randy came off life support yesterday and he removed it himself. He showed some movement today, acknowledged his mother kissing him and has been breathing on his own. Whoever did this to him better hope he doesn't die. Prayers for all involved.
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Nov 16, 2012
 
Boy oh Boy, what a sad thing to happen.No body comes out winning in a situation like that.The bar and owner will probably be sued and will have to close eventually.Prayers for the man on life support and his family.
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Nov 16, 2012
 
sam wrote:
Randy came off life support yesterday and he removed it himself. He showed some movement today, acknowledged his mother kissing him and has been breathing on his own. Whoever did this to him better hope he doesn't die. Prayers for all involved.
I've never heard of anyone removing themselves from life support unless the situation was such the person was not going to recover. And I know doctors would not take such action just because the patient requested it w/o that patient having a living will/DNR.
Why would he be in danger of dying if he "removed" himself from life support. Sorry but your comments make no sense.

Be that as it may, the entire incident is tragic for all the parties involved. But, unless you were there you really have no idea what happened and all the rumors and misinformation is not helpful to anyone. Likewise all the nasty comments and threats towards the alleged attacker are uncalled for. Why not wait to find out the facts before making condemnations? Even one or both having a history of such action does not prove blame on either one's part. Supposition in such matters can do more harm than one might realize especially in the legal aspect. And who knows if family members are reading this stuff and how it affects those who are innocent on both sides.

There are two sides to every story and then there is the real truth.
Lily

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Nov 16, 2012
 
Confusing and shameful wrote:
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I've never heard of anyone removing themselves from life support unless the situation was such the person was not going to recover. And I know doctors would not take such action just because the patient requested it w/o that patient having a living will/DNR.
Why would he be in danger of dying if he "removed" himself from life support. Sorry but your comments make no sense.
Be that as it may, the entire incident is tragic for all the parties involved. But, unless you were there you really have no idea what happened and all the rumors and misinformation is not helpful to anyone. Likewise all the nasty comments and threats towards the alleged attacker are uncalled for. Why not wait to find out the facts before making condemnations? Even one or both having a history of such action does not prove blame on either one's part. Supposition in such matters can do more harm than one might realize especially in the legal aspect. And who knows if family members are reading this stuff and how it affects those who are innocent on both sides.
There are two sides to every story and then there is the real truth.
Actually its the family that has stated what "Sam" said. So take it for what it is as far as what makes sense. Could be why they and their friends are believing in miracles right now.
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Nov 16, 2012
 

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Actually its the family that has stated what "Sam" said. So take it for what it is as far as what makes sense. Could be why they and their friends are believing in miracles right now.
Then his family is full of retards. I am a nurse on the floor at the hospital where Randy is. He was removed from the machines by the doctors after he pulled out his breathing tube. People are so ignorant. He still is not awake and is showing no braing activity. Not looking good long term. Even if he does recover, he will never be able to take care of himself again on his own. What kind of life is that?
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Nov 16, 2012
 
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Then his family is full of retards. I am a nurse on the floor at the hospital where Randy is. He was removed from the machines by the doctors after he pulled out his breathing tube. People are so ignorant. He still is not awake and is showing no braing activity. Not looking good long term. Even if he does recover, he will never be able to take care of himself again on his own. What kind of life is that?
Retards? Really? Some compassion you have and obvious you don't belong in the medical field especially if you're on here claiming to be a nurse on that floor. Ever heard of HIPAA Laws? Let's see if you can keep your job after your post. You can be traced. Wait for it.
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Hippa? I haven't revealed any info that isn't already all over his FB page or any other forum that is talking about him and his condition. I guess we're all going to jail and losing our jobs!!
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Hippa? I haven't revealed any info that isn't already all over his FB page or any other forum that is talking about him and his condition. I guess we're all going to jail and losing our jobs!!
Talk about a "retard". First of all, if you were any kind of a nurse, you would know that its HIPAA and not 2 P's. Secondly, you would also know what entities are covered under that law. Thirdly, you would also know that "covered entities" and people under them are the ONLY one's that have to abide by the law and the public is not responsible to. YOU would be the one to lose your job. I'm thinking you need to do your homework or learn how to lie better.
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Then his family is full of retards. I am a nurse on the floor at the hospital where Randy is. He was removed from the machines by the doctors after he pulled out his breathing tube. People are so ignorant. He still is not awake and is showing no braing activity. Not looking good long term. Even if he does recover, he will never be able to take care of himself again on his own. What kind of life is that?
What kind of nurse from any hospital gets involved with a conversation online and starts to call the family members names. You are in the wrong line of work, someone should report you and you should be on suspension for this. I am a family member and I'm going to report this to the hospital, hope your comment was worth it.
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Nov 17, 2012
 
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<quoted text>What kind of nurse from any hospital gets involved with a conversation online and starts to call the family members names. You are in the wrong line of work, someone should report you and you should be on suspension for this. I am a family member and I'm going to report this to the hospital, hope your comment was worth it.
Thank you! Remind the hospital administration that civil and criminal penalties pertain here and to maybe re-train their employees, especially on this particular floor apparently regarding the law. As a family member, I would watch who is taking care of my loved one especially if they can't speak for themselves at this time. I sure as heck wouldn't want this person making that comment taking care of me or my family member.
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Nov 17, 2012
 
All you guys need to shut up. He is a very good friend of mine. He needs to open his eyes. Just wake up Mr.Randy. we love you
CsM

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haters. topix is full of um.
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Nov 19, 2012
 
Question: How can you be brain dead and pull out a breathing tube? Clearly "Get It Straight" is not a nurse.
YOU ARE THE RETARD

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get it straight wrote:
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Then his family is full of retards. I am a nurse on the floor at the hospital where Randy is. He was removed from the machines by the doctors after he pulled out his breathing tube. People are so ignorant. He still is not awake and is showing no braing activity. Not looking good long term. Even if he does recover, he will never be able to take care of himself again on his own. What kind of life is that?
. IF U REALLY ARE A NURSE ON THE FLOOR WHERE RANDY WAS(WHICH I DOUBT), U HAVE ABSOLUTELY NO BUSINESS POSTING SUCH COMMENTS & CERTAINLY HAVE NO BUSINESS IDENTIFYING YOURSELF AS SUCH!!!! Randy, may he rest in peace, had stepped in to stop this piece of SCUM from HITTING A WOMAN & the trash WAITED OUTSIDE THE BAR TO SHOW HIS APPRECIATION BY BEATING RANDY (ULTIMATELY) TO DEATH. As this is how this person (NOT "how this MAN") seems to have resolved conflict throughout his entire LIFE, he absolutely does DESERVE TO SPEND THE REST OF HIS LOCKED UP....where I'm sure the stronger, bigger & tougher might teach HIM a lesson or two. The whole thing is disgusting but, as a nurse myself, YOUR COMMENTS, LACK OF RESPECT FOR RANDY'S FAMILY, INDIFFERENCE TO MENTALLY DISABLED, LACK OF ANONYMITY FOR THE PTS ON YOUR FLOOR & IN YOUR HOSPITAL DISGUST ME BEYOND BELIEF. HOW DARE YOU SAY "HIS FAMILY IS FULL OF RETARDS!!!!" YOU'RE A DISGRACE TO THE PROFESSION OF NURSING.
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Nov 21, 2012
 
I am not I will not judge whoever did this to Randy. He was a family friend with my kids growing up and I was a friend of his mothers. We have not associated for some years however I have said many prayers for his mother and children. Randy was a good friend and a great person. He loved his family very much.He was true to his friends and was one of the good guys. Its time for prayer for his family God will take care of who did what and why.God bless the Fager family.
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Nov 21, 2012
 
get it straight wrote:
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Then his family is full of retards. I am a nurse on the floor at the hospital where Randy is. He was removed from the machines by the doctors after he pulled out his breathing tube. People are so ignorant. He still is not awake and is showing no braing activity. Not looking good long term. Even if he does recover, he will never be able to take care of himself again on his own. What kind of life is that?
I know this was posted a few days ago but I just seen this.I can't believe what I just read on here. I am a family member of Randy and I can't believe the lack of professionalism that a member of the hospital would release information like this on a patient. Yes it may be all over facebook and other places but not from a member of the hospital. That is ridiculous. And as for his/MY family being retards that is completely uncalled for. How would you feel if this was someone in your family? Just unbelievable. You should be ashamed.
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Nov 21, 2012
 
I'm also a family member of randy and find this extremely upsetting, yes there may be information about this on facebook but this is from people that actually know him and care about him. You have no right to run your mouth over an internet site. We were there the past 2 weeks and I don't believe anything was said to anyone in person. So what a shame you are. Not only to run your mouth but also to cower behind a screen, but that is okay karma gets the best of us. If you are really a nurse on that floor, I'm sure it wont be for much longer. Completely inconsiderate, people are going through pain and you want to add insult to injury...coward.
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Nov 21, 2012
 
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I know this was posted a few days ago but I just seen this.I can't believe what I just read on here. I am a family member of Randy and I can't believe the lack of professionalism that a member of the hospital would release information like this on a patient. Yes it may be all over facebook and other places but not from a member of the hospital. That is ridiculous. And as for his/MY family being retards that is completely uncalled for. How would you feel if this was someone in your family? Just unbelievable. You should be ashamed.
Agree with u & the post after yours...I posted 2 before u & if u post which hospital & floor Randy was on, I will ABSOLUTELY MAKE A FORMAL COMPLAINT TO THE FLOOR, THE HOSPITAL AND THE MISSOURI STATE BOARD OF NURSING....THAT'S HOW MUCH THAT MORONIC POST HAS PISSED ME OFF.
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Nov 23, 2012
 
im not family so i cant and wont give that information but im a healthcare professional. i have made no comments but this online and i have to say im disgusted by what i read by that "nurse" from his floor. i grew up with Randy and i went to to see him in the hospital. His family has been by his side non stop and he has touched so many lives. Randy will be missed by so many especially his children. I hope someone reports the nurse and the hospital. because she/he should not work in that field any longer. Love you Randy.. R.I.P my friend.
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Agree with u & the post after yours...I posted 2 before u & if u post which hospital & floor Randy was on, I will ABSOLUTELY MAKE A FORMAL COMPLAINT TO THE FLOOR, THE HOSPITAL AND THE MISSOURI STATE BOARD OF NURSING....THAT'S HOW MUCH THAT MORONIC POST HAS PISSED ME OFF.

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