Massena Police Chief: We must work to...

Massena Police Chief: We must work to prevent people from becoming drug users

There are 22 comments on the Ogdensburg Courier-Observer/Journal story from Sep 6, 2013, titled Massena Police Chief: We must work to prevent people from becoming drug users. In it, Ogdensburg Courier-Observer/Journal reports that:

The village's police chief said approximately two years go his staff started seeing an influx of new players in the drug trade in the community - selling prescription drugs and heroin, driving up the crime rate and sparking an increase in violent crime as different factions battled for control of the street trade.

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your edu

Massena, NY

#1 Sep 9, 2013
Ummm the answer is plain...GET US JOBS.

Support the local economy, get living wage jobs so people can have a LIFE...save money...buy property...raise a family. Who the hell can do any of that working at Burger King? And what else is there? Where are the living wage jobs with benefits?

I refuse to believe that our local officials are too stupid to see the connection between job loss and the rise in crime. Hmmmm crime has gotten worse over the past 12 yrs huh? When did GM close? How many other business have closed or suffered since then?

It is happening all over the country and much worse in some places than Massena.

With good jobs comes a boost to the middle class...the people who own and rent properties. They keep stuff looking nice and raise property values....properties that drug dealers and users cannot afford. As it is now Massena has a blighted property issue.

You can't stop this type of crime with reactionary measures. You need a proactive plan that focuses on rebuilding the economy WHILE you but the drug dealers. Otherwise you will be bust drug dealers for the next 50 yrs, and the town will just get worse and worse.
No phone

Massena, NY

#2 Sep 9, 2013
your edu wrote:
Ummm the answer is plain...GET US JOBS.
Support the local economy, get living wage jobs so people can have a LIFE...save money...buy property...raise a family. Who the hell can do any of that working at Burger King? And what else is there? Where are the living wage jobs with benefits?
I refuse to believe that our local officials are too stupid to see the connection between job loss and the rise in crime. Hmmmm crime has gotten worse over the past 12 yrs huh? When did GM close? How many other business have closed or suffered since then?
It is happening all over the country and much worse in some places than Massena.
With good jobs comes a boost to the middle class...the people who own and rent properties. They keep stuff looking nice and raise property values....properties that drug dealers and users cannot afford. As it is now Massena has a blighted property issue.
You can't stop this type of crime with reactionary measures. You need a proactive plan that focuses on rebuilding the economy WHILE you but the drug dealers. Otherwise you will be bust drug dealers for the next 50 yrs, and the town will just get worse and worse.
You dumb uneducated tard. You actually think that it's the job of the police Chief to find you a job?!!!! Go get off crack, get your GED, and go look for work. Well, probably is a hell of a lot easier to walk to the post office and get your welfare check.....
your edu

Massena, NY

#3 Sep 9, 2013
No phone wrote:
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You dumb uneducated tard. You actually think that it's the job of the police Chief to find you a job?!!!! Go get off crack, get your GED, and go look for work. Well, probably is a hell of a lot easier to walk to the post office and get your welfare check.....
Only a complete MORON would read that I suggested the police should get us jobs.

What an fugging twit.

Before you freak out....

Building the local economy is up to people like me and you....I've been saying this for yrs...you cannot expect the police to get rid of the conditions that create crime. We all need to support the local economy, and petition our elected officials to bring a manufacturer here....one that won't sell our jobs to China.

Take a proactive approach instead of waiting the problem is already taking hold.

Our elected officials and legislators need to work with the citizens. If we demand places to work how can they not try?
No phone

Massena, NY

#4 Sep 9, 2013
your edu wrote:
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Only a complete MORON would read that I suggested the police should get us jobs.
What an fugging twit.
Before you freak out....
Building the local economy is up to people like me and you....I've been saying this for yrs...you cannot expect the police to get rid of the conditions that create crime. We all need to support the local economy, and petition our elected officials to bring a manufacturer here....one that won't sell our jobs to China.
Take a proactive approach instead of waiting the problem is already taking hold.
Our elected officials and legislators need to work with the citizens. If we demand places to work how can they not try?
Then at least give the police department kudos for laying the ground work of cleaning up this town. But of course you can't. Because you are a friggen tool. I do agree with you to the point that its up to all of us to work together, but as you can see from the less than educated people on this site, that's damn near impossible in this town.
your edu

Massena, NY

#5 Sep 9, 2013
No phone wrote:
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Then at least give the police department kudos for laying the ground work of cleaning up this town. But of course you can't. Because you are a friggen tool. I do agree with you to the point that its up to all of us to work together, but as you can see from the less than educated people on this site, that's damn near impossible in this town.
How do you know I never gave them kudos? What, every time I mention getting rid of crime, do I have to say "good job, police"?? That goes without saying. They do their jobs well. I didn't realize we were so PC all of a sudden.

The FIRST thing to do is redevelop the economy, not the last. Everything will be much easier....parenting, giving the kids the life skills...because with a strong economy the foundation to do anything exists. It should be the priority.
Right on

Woburn, MA

#6 Sep 9, 2013
"your edu" is right. There is a direct correlation between unemployment, drug use and crime. No jobs means more time on your hands so that leads to drug and alcohol abuse for some. No money for your fix leads to crime. It is all related. Dealers are making theirs, the users are getting their fix and all of the law abiding citizens pay the price.
Lol

Massena, NY

#7 Sep 10, 2013
Closet gay! Loll lol
He was right

Skaneateles, NY

#8 Sep 10, 2013
The police chief was right.....just read his comments. He didn't call anyone out, he suggested something other then trying to arrest the drug issue away....Anyone who wants to slam him, his staff or anyone else for last weeks raid is either involved in the drug trade or simply likes to slander people and cause trouble.
He was right

Skaneateles, NY

#9 Sep 10, 2013
Didn't Currier suggest economic development....that's JOBS! You people get so excited to smear someone...you don't even recognize when you agree with them.
your edu wrote:
Ummm the answer is plain...GET US JOBS.
Support the local economy, get living wage jobs so people can have a LIFE...save money...buy property...raise a family. Who the hell can do any of that working at Burger King? And what else is there? Where are the living wage jobs with benefits?
I refuse to believe that our local officials are too stupid to see the connection between job loss and the rise in crime. Hmmmm crime has gotten worse over the past 12 yrs huh? When did GM close? How many other business have closed or suffered since then?
It is happening all over the country and much worse in some places than Massena.
With good jobs comes a boost to the middle class...the people who own and rent properties. They keep stuff looking nice and raise property values....properties that drug dealers and users cannot afford. As it is now Massena has a blighted property issue.
You can't stop this type of crime with reactionary measures. You need a proactive plan that focuses on rebuilding the economy WHILE you but the drug dealers. Otherwise you will be bust drug dealers for the next 50 yrs, and the town will just get worse and worse.
RE lax

New York, NY

#10 Sep 10, 2013
He was right wrote:
The police chief was right.....just read his comments. He didn't call anyone out, he suggested something other then trying to arrest the drug issue away....Anyone who wants to slam him, his staff or anyone else for last weeks raid is either involved in the drug trade or simply likes to slander people and cause trouble.
Wrong post? Nobody slammed anyone here unless you count "officials" which is a pretty generalized term. And I agree that most officials are unable to see what is as plain as the nose on their face.

I think you're freaking out at nothing.
reality

Massena, NY

#11 Sep 10, 2013
He was right wrote:
The police chief was right.....just read his comments. He didn't call anyone out, he suggested something other then trying to arrest the drug issue away....Anyone who wants to slam him, his staff or anyone else for last weeks raid is either involved in the drug trade or simply likes to slander people and cause trouble.
I think you had take a deep breath, better re-read the posts, carefully this time, look up the definition of slander, and rethink your comment.
mass see ya

Farmington, CT

#12 Sep 12, 2013
Minimum wage jobs. Thank officials for letting Walmart in and turning your town into a sweat shop.
Rockingchairhipp i

Raleigh, NC

#13 Sep 14, 2013
Well this it true. The less jobs around the worse the economy gets and the more crime is committed. Massena does not encourage any new businesses to come there or no companies to be there. I don't hear that the Business Committee doesn't ask or even look for new companies to take over old places. Take for instance the mall. It is a ghost town and it is getting worse. Most of the businesses either moved towards Massena or totally moved right out of town. We need someone who knows business ethics and take over the mall and get more businesses interested in it or that too will be a ghost town also. Wake up Massena. For another instance they don't let woman on the Volunteer Fire Department...what does Volunteer mean it means anyone could be there not just guys. I have seen many fire departments have woman and they are just as good or even better than most men. Get out of the 50's Massena and wake up.
Duh

Massena, NY

#14 Sep 15, 2013
The mall isn't owned by Massena stupid. By the way, business ethics has nothing to do with bringing in business. As for jobs in Massena, forget it. Look at downtown! The place is a dump! You want to place blame? Blame your town officials AND your legislators AND you senators and congressmen!
Rockingchairhipp i

Raleigh, NC

#15 Sep 18, 2013
Duh wrote:
The mall isn't owned by Massena stupid. By the way, business ethics has nothing to do with bringing in business. As for jobs in Massena, forget it. Look at downtown! The place is a dump! You want to place blame? Blame your town officials AND your legislators AND you senators and congressmen!
I understand the mall is not owned by Massena DUH but maybe the community should look into that and have a meeting with them and find out what can be done. And yes the downtown does look like a dump. They should have the community get together and get them to fix it and get things there that will attract companies or businesses there. The town use to be a great one to live in but it has gone down hill big time and soon enough it will be a ghost town.
Captaingal

Auburn, NY

#16 Sep 18, 2013
Rockingchairhippi wrote:
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I understand the mall is not owned by Massena DUH but maybe the community should look into that and have a meeting with them and find out what can be done. And yes the downtown does look like a dump. They should have the community get together and get them to fix it and get things there that will attract companies or businesses there. The town use to be a great one to live in but it has gone down hill big time and soon enough it will be a ghost town.
WTF do you think giving these losers a job will do? I can tell you, all it will do is give the druggies more money to support their drug habits. Jobs is not the answer! What is I don't know but I do know they don't want to work, they would rather steal like the Northrup bunch and become NARCS so they don't have to pay the consequences, just like Jamie is doing.
Used to be

Utica, NY

#17 Sep 18, 2013
Economic development is key to changing the quality of life in Massena. Since the BDC fired Jason Clark, we have had Mike Almasian who jumped in with both feet and talked a good game then moved away and resigned, or did he?? He wanted to remain with the BDC long distance and keep his salary. Now we have Tom Sullivan as a part time economic developer. Is Almasian getting the other part ? Massena will never make it with a part time economic developer. It's more than a full time job to make things happen and the right person for the job has to eat and sleep Massena. People have applied for the job but not even given the courtesy of an interview because they are not in the good ol boys club. The Mayor at one time was against the good ol boy club but somehow they got to him. The downtown project is at a standstill, the rail siding is still not done. People are good at starting things but don't finish them. Until Massena gets serious about economic development and get a developer who truly cares about the long term existence of Massena, it will continue to be in a state of stagnation. Jobs are the answer to a better economy. Put the population back to more good people than bad. Even 2-300 jobs to start would make a great impact.
Used to Live in Massena

Arlington, VA

#18 Oct 4, 2013
Hmm... DIVERSIFY THE ECONOMY... MANUFACTURING IS NEARLY DEAD. Globalization, Automation, and Lack of Immigration have crippled Massena's economy. WE NEED MORE JOBS IN TECH! MASSENA ALSO HAS TO RELAX ITS ENFORCEMENT OF MINOR LAW VIOLATIONS.

People can't prosper if they're in jail, have criminal records, and no future because of past violations. But as the economy erodes further, and it will, the amount of tickets and arrests will soar to try to fund a failing community. WE CAN DO BETTER! Nobody should be arrested for having a gram of marijuana!
Used to Live in Massena

Arlington, VA

#19 Oct 4, 2013
ALSO, LACK OF A MAJOR HIGHWAY. Take a look at a map and see how far we are from anything... You can't ship goods in and out from a two lane, one way highway... That would help bring jobs and promote the area's tourism.
DUH

Massena, NY

#20 Oct 14, 2013
get some jobs stores $$$ housing grants rehabs social mental emotional physical spiritual health facilities leisure activities schools community donations volunteers activities etc etc etc in this dark hole massena ny st law co and get rid of the flawed corrupt Da ADA govt judge jury executioners chiefs cops dirty politics and *buracracy flawed laws rules regulations communist fascist big govt welfare freebie socialist overfilled jails prisons for probation rehabilitation relocation etc etc etc . That or pray to GOD for salvation bc it wont be long...

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