Abalone divers busted at Tomales Point

Abalone divers busted at Tomales Point

There are 18 comments on the Marin Independent Journal story from Jun 29, 2010, titled Abalone divers busted at Tomales Point. In it, Marin Independent Journal reports that:

Six people were busted for abalone violations at Tomales Point by Point Reyes National Seashore rangers who seized 17 shellfish over the weekend.

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Well done

Mill Valley, CA

#2 Jun 29, 2010
Hang em high

San Jose, CA

#4 Jun 30, 2010
The rangers caught the offenders this time, but how many times did they get away with poaching? The fines need to be substantially increased so that poaching doesn't become part of "the cost of doing business". Claiming ignorance of the law due to immigration status is a dubious excuse. Seems to me that if the poacher is taking game under cover of darkness and watching for game wardens, they know full well their activities are illegal.

Also, there have to be stronger penalties to not paying the fines -- not being able to register your vehicle, liens, arrest warants, etc. In Canada, not paying fines will damage your credit report. The time to save our wildlife and parks for future generations is now, not when species are near extinction or habitat severely damaged.
Out of Control State

San Rafael, CA

#6 Jun 30, 2010
Good job Rangers. Guys like this who are destroying the wild life need a good asswhoppin'!!!
us citizen

San Francisco, CA

#7 Jun 30, 2010
fines are way to cheap. they should be at least doubled and vehicles confiscated. they can go somewhere else and poach enough to cover the fines. the problem has always been that the fines are to low to dissuade the behavior.
Busted and Confused

San Diego, CA

#8 Jun 30, 2010
us citizen wrote:
fines are way to cheap. they should be at least doubled and vehicles confiscated. they can go somewhere else and poach enough to cover the fines. the problem has always been that the fines are to low to dissuade the behavior.
us citizen :


There are differences.
Pay attention in class and learn

Since: Feb 07

Oakland, CA

#9 Jun 30, 2010
It's possible to get legally farmed and sold red abalone at about $20/lb. They'll typically be pretty small, but I can't figure why anyone would risk getting busted for so few abalone when it's so easy to buy them.

This is frankly nothing compared to what a serious poacher can do with breathing apparatus. I've heard of busts where well over 100 abalone were seized.
JB fisherman

San Francisco, CA

#10 Jun 30, 2010
Hey Busted and Confused, relax a bit, eh? Do you actually have a comment about the article or do you just like bustin' people's chops?

This article is worthless without give the population details of the abalone. To say they are being depleted without any past or present population details is irresponsible to say the least. Harvest numbers may be up but illegal harvest is down. Since there is no mention of past or present population levels we have to assume the harvest is sustainable.

To quote someone saying the harvest is not sustainable without the data more than bad reporting, it's suspect of an alternative motive. I'm not surprised based on the extreme liberal bias the IJ has but this is just poor journalism.

Napa, CA

#11 Jun 30, 2010
With attitudes like yours, fisherman, it's no surprise the world's fisheries are being depleted. Black abalone are now extraordinarily rare in California and harvest of any kind is banned. Red abalone will be next if they can't get a handle on the poachers, and reduce the sport limits too.

Emeryville, CA

#12 Jun 30, 2010
BJ is full of BS
Day Hiker

Novato, CA

#13 Jun 30, 2010
Asians? Poaching? Who'd thunk it?
Mr Ed

United States

#14 Jun 30, 2010
Ahhh Baloney

Santa Maria, CA

#15 Jun 30, 2010
512 vehicles? Maybe we should stop all Ablone
harvesting? At least for a few years--so biologist can get an accurate count.

No one should make money exploiting animals--ever.
Death to poachers

Ross, CA

#16 Jun 30, 2010
Feed the poachers to the sharks.

Mill Valley, CA

#17 Jun 30, 2010
very dangerous for the diver- best to leave the abalone in the ocean
or soon they will go the way of the bluefin tuna- straight out of existence.

Mill Valley, CA

#18 Jun 30, 2010
six major reasons for abalone's decline:1)predation,Sea otters 2)Mortality of sublegal sizes,sublegal abalone bleed to death when the foot is sliced by the harvesting iron 3)Over harvesting,easily over harvested and take a long time to grow 4)Competition,Sea Urchins take over food and living space 5)Poaching,abalone bring high prices 6)loss of habitat,coastal "developement" and pollution have ruined areas of abalone habitat.Also many people have lost their life going for abalone.

Mill Valley, CA

#19 Jul 1, 2010
Mostly Asians that are stripmining our natural resources here and abroad.
When the Vietnamese first came to California, they were poaching the ducks at the Civic Center lagoon. There is no respect for nature or animals in their culture. Just another symptom of uncontrolled immigration.

Chinatown is famous for no stray animals, they get eaten. Here's an example of how Man's Best Friend and other animals are treated in China.

Dogs are crammed so tightly together into tiny metal cages they cannot even bark. Yards away the blood-spattered carcasses of others lie on the ground.
This is Three Birds' Market in Guangzhou, China, officially described as a poultry market.
But, as these exclusive pictures show, many traders on the 60-acre site are doing brisk business selling dogs and cats to restaurants for slaughter and human consumption.

S_A_ Resident

San Rafael, CA

#20 Jul 1, 2010
Good article accept the part about the card being returned after the season ends, if you dont send in the card, the Fish n Game will count your take automatically at 24 for the year, weather you even got any at all, most people who get a card never harvest all 24, Ive taken 16 last year, the most Ive ever taken in a year. So the take is much smaller than this writer would want us to believe, typical corporate mentality dictates that no one should collect their own food.
How about writing an article about all the millions of farmed Salmon thats destroying the wild stocks? Or the "Chillaen seabass" thats going extinct so the "richies" can stuff their holes? Oh, I almost forgot, its because these industries are the media-WAKE UP!! STAND UP!! STAND UP FOR YOUR RIGHTS!!
S_A_ Resident

San Rafael, CA

#21 Jul 1, 2010
OH, and by the way, there are millions of Abs on the coast, Its carpeted with them, I see it with my own eyes everytime I go so anyone who believes this BS about unsustainability just needs to go and see for themselves. Its a lie.
As far as dogmeat goes, it will be on our menu one day too, they dont eat strays in Chinatown, they dont taste as good as the ones that are from farms, so that Chinatown comment is just racist BS, in Asian counties they feed the dogs fishmeal and rice AND you get two extra drumsticks too, win win!
And im a honkie too!

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