Sonoma County CA separates elderly ga...

Sonoma County CA separates elderly gay couple and sells all their posessions

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There is nothing more personal than how we wish to spend our final years. After decades with our loved ones there should be no dispute that we should get to spend our final moments together.

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Since: Feb 10

Woodstock, Illinois

#1 Apr 18, 2010
This may be the most disgusting abuse of an older couple I have ever seen.

I hope the lawsuit is hug, but it can't even come close to compensating for their loss.

“Married as I can be!”

Since: Jun 07

Las Vegas

#2 Apr 18, 2010
I read this article while I was at work, and had to leave my desk.
There is nothing, not one thing this country can do to repair the harm.

“Post-religious”

Since: Apr 08

Location hidden

#3 Apr 18, 2010
This couple had done everything the fundie wingnuts say that a same-sex couple should be limited to:

"Clay and Harold made diligent efforts to protect their legal rights, and had their legal paperwork in place--wills, powers of attorney, and medical directives, all naming each other."...

"Ignoring Clay's significant role in Harold's life, the county continued to treat Harold like he had no family and went to court seeking the power to make financial decisions on his behalf. Outrageously, the county represented to the judge that Clay was merely Harold's "roommate."

Had this older couple had a domestic partnership (remember when the religious reich opposed these?), there still would be no guarantee that local officials would have been any more diligent in honoring the protections provided in that instrument, since they were more than eager to ignore the legal protections they had in others.

This is why civil marriage must be extended to same-sex couples.

There remains no rational secular basis for denying same-sex couples the right to obtain a civil marriage. All arguments in opposition are irrational, illogical, or based on ignorance, animus, or religious superstition or myth.

There is no rational basis for creating a "separate but equal" institution for establishing kinship between unrelated adults when a perfectly suitable one already exists: civil marriage.

“Indeed, I am!”

Since: Feb 09

As if it mattered . . .

#4 Apr 18, 2010
I think the people who perpetrated this outrage should be arrested and tried in criminal court. Nothing less will prove real justice.

Since: Apr 07

Philadelphia, PA

#5 Apr 18, 2010
I cannot understand this type of monstrous filth.

And some despicable pig in another thread had the nerve to criticize me and other posters for jeering at the death of the president of Poland, who was anti-gay.

And despicable military pigs have had the nerve to criticize anyone who opposes DADT.

This is the type of thing that satanic monsters like NOM want so badly. This is the type of monstrosity that those anti-gay people in all those organizations dream of, in their pustulent, infected minds.

If only fate could send the very worst of California's budget and governmental crises to wreck the lives of the very people who perpetrated this. The next best thing is to sue them, twice: once in criminal court, once in civil court.

If only the law could hold liable every organization and person who voted for proposition 8 in the state of California. At least the organizations, at the very least. Imagine.

Let's hope they're right about the wrath of god, at any rate. When god is through with these people, they'll be wishing for the relative "sanctity" and "cool comfort" of hell unvarnished.

“A JOURNEY OF A THOUSAND MILES”

Since: Aug 08

MUST BEGIN WITH A SINGLE STEP!

#6 Apr 18, 2010
The part of this that is truly annoying is that Sonoma County is pretty GLBTQI friendly:)
Carl

United States

#7 Apr 18, 2010
Wine Country? Accept others,socially forward? I live in Florida; land of the rednecks, and if this happened here we would see severe criminal penalties for all involved.

Since: Mar 09

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#8 Apr 18, 2010
I have no words. Just horror and ... R A G E !!!!

“Reality is better than truth.”

Since: Nov 09

Indianapolis

#9 Apr 19, 2010
A pity no one has destroyed this judge's life yet. Hopefully, someone will.

Since: Mar 09

Location hidden

#10 Apr 19, 2010
Jerald ...you have the truth of it.

Thank you for saying what I don't have the mental serenity right now to voice.
Rev Ray T

Topeka, KS

#12 Apr 19, 2010
If this story does not bring tears to your eyes you must be less than human. At 82 I am still a strong, healthy man. Life is what happens when you are making other plans. Who is to say what tomorrow will bring? In my limited dealings with social workers. I have found them to be the most cruel and heartless animals on the planet. Falling into their hands has been the one and only fear in my life. Through a true miracle I have recently been reunited with my daughter after 35 years. Her mother hid her when it was time to go to court. Now I have someone, a strong woman, to see that I do not become an object in some social workers clime to the top. Why must so many others continue to live in fear of living? Especially in our community where many end their lives alone. I am rescued, but so many others are not. I weep for then.

Since: Jan 09

Central NJ

#13 Apr 19, 2010
This is a barbaric abuse of government power! Why the involuntary committment of the healthy partner?
It is my ferverent wish to see those County officials, who are resposible for this, found guilty! But the real problem is that we've turned so much power over to government, at all levels, that the feel justified in doing these things. It is imperative that we start reclaiming what's ours now!
Regards, Terry

Since: Jan 09

Central NJ

#14 Apr 19, 2010
Isn't this the same county, in California, that crushed a man's collection of RESTORED Corvairs a few years ago. There were over thirty five of them as I recall.These governments have just too much power!
Regards, Terry

“Equality marches on! ”

Since: Apr 08

Location hidden

#16 Apr 19, 2010
ltndncr59 wrote:
I read this article while I was at work, and had to leave my desk.
I did the same. After feeling so sad for this couple, anger soon set in.

“Homosapien ”

Since: Jan 07

Minneapolis

#17 Apr 19, 2010
This was nothing short of a hate crime and the administrators who did this should be prosecuted.
lvnv8

Las Vegas, NV

#18 Apr 19, 2010
wow, you do realize that what you've just posted makes you just as hateful and wrong as all the anti-gay people you have such distain for right? to say that what happened to these gentlemen was a tragedy is a huge understatement, a wrong has been done to them that can never be undone nor reconciled. no matter how many lawsuits get filed. laws MUST be created so that the rights of these citizens are protected, but remember hatred only breeds hatred. you have to be better.
Ken-Wisconsin
#19 Apr 19, 2010
Emelye Waldherr wrote:
I think the people who perpetrated this outrage should be arrested and tried in criminal court. Nothing less will prove real justice.
I agree 100% the problem with this country is no one has to be accountable for their actions.These people will get away with it because there is no justice in this country sad but true and if you have millions you can kill and get away with it.I am ashmed of my country.

Since: Apr 07

Philadelphia, PA

#20 Apr 19, 2010
lvnv8 wrote:
wow, you do realize that what you've just posted makes you just as hateful and wrong as all the anti-gay people you have such distain for right? to say that what happened to these gentlemen was a tragedy is a huge understatement, a wrong has been done to them that can never be undone nor reconciled. no matter how many lawsuits get filed. laws MUST be created so that the rights of these citizens are protected, but remember hatred only breeds hatred. you have to be better.
Uh, I'm definitely getting tired of correcting these impressions.

Nothing against the people who believe something like this. I believe it's true in many cases.

What's key is that I *DO NOT* believe it is true in *ALL* cases.

There are cases for outrage, and cases for expression of anger and/or hatred, and to posit that everyone must remain calm and sensible in all situations literally makes no sense.

I don't want to imply that unabated savagery is "key" (although that has its place too). But there seems to be a constant, constant call to "You must be better than them!" I KNOW I'M BETTER THAN THEM AND I DON'T CARE ABOUT PROVING IT, to them or to anyone else. That's not my concern.

My concern is that when I *know* the phelpses won't stop doing what they're doing, I don't have time for rhetoric like this if one of them dies and I'm jeering about it. The point is not "tit for tat." The point is to show that they have *breeded that much hatred and that therefore, perhaps, something should be done about it*. Your technique works on the logical.

Some of these people aren't logical, and *stunning and shocking them* out of complacency can do wonders.

This article detailed shock after shock to the conscience.

Enough said.
tc contender

Charlotte, NC

#21 Apr 19, 2010
rdg1234 wrote:
I cannot understand this type of monstrous filth.
And some despicable pig in another thread had the nerve to criticize me and other posters for jeering at the death of the president of Poland, who was anti-gay.
And despicable military pigs have had the nerve to criticize anyone who opposes DADT.
This is the type of thing that satanic monsters like NOM want so badly. This is the type of monstrosity that those anti-gay people in all those organizations dream of, in their pustulent, infected minds.
If only fate could send the very worst of California's budget and governmental crises to wreck the lives of the very people who perpetrated this. The next best thing is to sue them, twice: once in criminal court, once in civil court.
If only the law could hold liable every organization and person who voted for proposition 8 in the state of California. At least the organizations, at the very least. Imagine.
Let's hope they're right about the wrath of god, at any rate. When god is through with these people, they'll be wishing for the relative "sanctity" and "cool comfort" of hell unvarnished.
How does one "sue" in criminal court?

“Choose wisely!”

Since: Jul 07

Los Angeles

#22 Apr 19, 2010
THIS IS AN OUTRAGE!! This is a deliberate act of inhumanity and hate directed at a couple who did everything they were told they needed to do, only to have it callously ignored and their rights stripped from them.

It is my hope that voices from around the nation will join to fight this and make some good come from it. This happened in Sonoma! What does it say could happen elsewhere! Spread this story far and wide and don't let it go. Do justice! Make something good come from this evil!

Eric

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