Horse death in Arlington deemed accid...

Horse death in Arlington deemed accidental

There are 115 comments on the The Herald story from Jun 15, 2010, titled Horse death in Arlington deemed accidental. In it, The Herald reports that:

Police determined a horse died Saturday after accidentally falling out of a moving trailer.

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janice

Latrobe, PA

#21 Jun 17, 2010
arlington wrote:
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Janice..you are a liar..we all drove by the dead body until MONDAY...sounds like you were in the truck or atleast present. Please explain to how you guys did not know what was go on.
No, I was not in the truck, and I had never met these women before. The body was gone by 2:30 on Sunday. I certainly was present when the truck stopped, and I was present when the contractor picked him up on Sunday. Thanks for asking.
janice

Latrobe, PA

#22 Jun 17, 2010
Skeptical Lucy wrote:
Okay my sleuthing from admittedly out of state currently BUT with people I still stay in touch with from when I lived in WA for decades, it sure is looking like Ms. Moon knows a whole lot more than she is apparently willing to admit. Addresses match, vehicles match, even her apparent habit of riding in the tree farm matches too. So, Janice. What is up with this situation? Don't you think for the sake of the community traumatized here not to mention horse people all over the northwest who now know of this shameful and preventable tragedy who are trying to wrap minds around it and understand, you should cowgirl up and come clean with what you know? A challenge. Consider the fringed gauntlet tossed. Or maybe more appropriately slapped across a face??? Maybe yours?
Well, gosh, I live a half mile from the tree farm, and I have horses. That is a hoot that you managed to turn up that I habitually ride on the tree farm. I am curious to know what you are matching vehicles to. I live here, where the trail of carnage ended. I am merely trying to present accurate facts. I will be happy to participate in any investigation and I have told Danielle several times. Fringed gauntlet smacked right back atcha sweet lips, I did not know this woman, I am only the property owner where the train wreck ended. If you notice, I cannot comment on the beginning, and I have no idea how it transpired that she didn't know. I can tell you what happened at my residence only, and I am pretty sure that those are the only comments I have made.
Danielle

United States

#23 Jun 17, 2010
Janice, then why did you say that you were wrong and that it actually was Monday in a previous post? That is the only thing I am trying to figure out?
janice

Latrobe, PA

#24 Jun 17, 2010
Danielle wrote:
Janice, then why did you say that you were wrong and that it actually was Monday in a previous post? That is the only thing I am trying to figure out?
i didn't. was not me!
Danielle

United States

#25 Jun 17, 2010
Do we have two different Janices posting?
janice

Latrobe, PA

#26 Jun 17, 2010
Danielle wrote:
Do we have two different Janices posting?
Not that I am aware of. That comment was from Linda on the other thread.
janice

Latrobe, PA

#27 Jun 17, 2010
Danielle wrote:
Do we have two different Janices posting?
page 2, post #40. I do not know who linda is, and I have never used an alias. I have never actually had anybody accuse me of being a liar. It is maybe the one thing i am not...
gvres72

Seattle, WA

#28 Jun 17, 2010
I whole heartedly agree. It is not the deputies job to decide, rather her job to gather ALL facts, witesses, photographic evidence and forward the charges for consideration to the prosecuting attorney - who is the charging authority. Snohomish County PA - STEP UP and charge the driver for the proper and fitting charges. No one is stating there is malice or "intent", however, negligence is a mental state of many crimes and the lesser crimes vs those that require intent. Thus, the lesser charge which is a misdemeanor crime. There are additonal charges for consideration such as Transporting Livestock in an Unsafe Manner, RCW 16.52.080.

So am I to believe that if a deputy, merely feels sorry for the persons involved in a tragedy, we should not charge them! Get to know the laws....read them...charge them. That is your job!

For all of you that disagree....Drive your 3-4 horse trailer loaded out Grandview Rd, while doing regular mirror checks, be diligent. Look at the massive blood trail, check mirrors as you round turns....I have driven it many times in these circumstances. COMPLETE NEGLIGENCE exists here. Let's hope they don't drag a kid that happened to fall out of the back of the car ....after all, that is tragic too....should we just drop all of the negligent driving, homicide etc statues that don't require intent??????

RCW 16.52.207
Animal cruelty in the second degree.

(1) A person is guilty of animal cruelty in the second degree if, under circumstances not amounting to first degree animal cruelty, the person knowingly, recklessly, or with criminal negligence inflicts unnecessary suffering or pain upon an animal.

(2) An owner of an animal is guilty of animal cruelty in the second degree if, under circumstances not amounting to first degree animal cruelty, the owner knowingly, recklessly, or with criminal negligence:

(a) Fails to provide the animal with necessary shelter, rest, sanitation, space, or medical attention and the animal suffers unnecessary or unjustifiable physical pain as a result of the failure;

(b) Under circumstances not amounting to animal cruelty in the second degree under (c) of this subsection, abandons the animal; or

(c) Abandons the animal and (i) as a result of being abandoned, the animal suffers bodily harm; or (ii) abandoning the animal creates an imminent and substantial risk that the animal will suffer substantial bodily harm.

(3)(a) Animal cruelty in the second degree under subsection (1),(2)(a), or (2)(b) of this section is a misdemeanor.

(b) Animal cruelty in the second degree under subsection (2)(c) of this section is a gross misdemeanor.

(4) In any prosecution of animal cruelty in the second degree under subsection (1) or (2)(a) of this section, it shall be an affirmative defense, if established by the defendant by a preponderance of the evidence, that the defendant's failure was due to economic distress beyond the defendant's control.
grandview family wrote:
yes, may have been an accident, however people are stating that the horse was screaming,drug through the ditch on the side of the road, and trying to get her attention. There is no way to pull the horse that far without knowing..then you leave the horse for the county to pick up Mon..morning..Snohomish County Deputy Sheriff Tracy Peckham #1415 got this sooo wrong. You can call and they will tell you that they asked the driver and passenger n her friends what happen and made their conclusion.
gvres72

Seattle, WA

#29 Jun 17, 2010
GET YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT, IT WAS PUSHED OFF THE ROAD BY A DEPUTY WHO LIVED NEARBY FOR THE ANIMAL CRUELTY 2ND DEGREE SUSPECTS. HE DID THIS AS THEY DID NOT RETURN FOR THE HORSE, OR LEFTOVER PARTS. THE ANIMAL HAULERS PICKED IT UP THE NEXT DAY AFTER 10 AM, FROM THE DITCH WHERE IT WAS COVERED BY A TARP.
janice wrote:
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The horse was not picked up by SD, it was picked up by a private contractor less than 24 (around 19) hours after the accident.
janice

Latrobe, PA

#30 Jun 17, 2010
gvres72 wrote:
GET YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT, IT WAS PUSHED OFF THE ROAD BY A DEPUTY WHO LIVED NEARBY FOR THE ANIMAL CRUELTY 2ND DEGREE SUSPECTS. HE DID THIS AS THEY DID NOT RETURN FOR THE HORSE, OR LEFTOVER PARTS. THE ANIMAL HAULERS PICKED IT UP THE NEXT DAY AFTER 10 AM, FROM THE DITCH WHERE IT WAS COVERED BY A TARP.
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Please clarify for me... Are you saying that the trailer left before the deputy came to move the animal? That is wholly untrue if it is what you are saying. AFTER the SD moved the animal, and spoke to the group, and AFTER he left with his tractor for home, only then did that trailer move, and only to take the remaining two horses home to have dinner, and water.

At no time was there not one of the 3 patiently waiting for the SD. We did finally have a deputy show up around 12:30am. Do you think those 2 horses should have stayed in the trailer parked on a blind curve in the road?
Danielle

United States

#31 Jun 17, 2010
He was off duty. This means he had no legal authority on this incident, he could not say or do anything to anyone there. NONE at all. Off duty as a resident. Period.
Danielle

United States

#32 Jun 17, 2010
Can anyone confirm who picked up the horse and where the remains (what was left) went to?
janice

Latrobe, PA

#33 Jun 17, 2010
Danielle wrote:
Can anyone confirm who picked up the horse and where the remains (what was left) went to?
Yes, and yes.
janice

Latrobe, PA

#34 Jun 17, 2010
Danielle wrote:
He was off duty. This means he had no legal authority on this incident, he could not say or do anything to anyone there. NONE at all. Off duty as a resident. Period.
I will have to do some research on that. i don't think law enforcement goes off the clock, but I don't know. I am certain that he would not have told SD that the scene was secure and cancelled the call if it had not been a 'legal' decision.
Danielle

United States

#35 Jun 17, 2010
He was off duty, had zero authority in this incident. Tracy Peckham is the reporting Sherrif's Deputy.
Danielle

United States

#36 Jun 17, 2010
Janice can you please contact Pasados then and tell them where the remains were taken. It is important that they see the remains if still available.
janice

Latrobe, PA

#37 Jun 17, 2010
Danielle wrote:
Janice can you please contact Pasados then and tell them where the remains were taken. It is important that they see the remains if still available.
I may be able to do that. I am not trying to stop a search for the truth but too much untruth has somehow been unleashed.
Common Sense

United States

#38 Jun 18, 2010
janice wrote:
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I may be able to do that. I am not trying to stop a search for the truth but too much untruth has somehow been unleashed.
Pasados has already called Snohomish County and they had the body.
Skeptical Lucy

Portland, OR

#39 Jun 18, 2010
Danielle, the reason you are being attacked is because you are getting too close to the truth and there are people (being protected by their friends who should not be protecting them but this always happens) who have a LOT to lose.

Janice - you are a prime example of how people in the wrong kinds of connections and situations defend their positions with insults more properly seen in middle school.

Reminds me of a case I worked on some years ago where a prospective juror in pretrial questioning said "yes, I know all of the defendants, and they are all liars, correction, they are all damn liars."
Seajay

Lynnwood, WA

#40 Jun 20, 2010
I have had many close calls in trailering horses. This may have been an inexperienced person who didnt know the difference between the push and pull and nooise of pulling a trailer. Maybe they had music playing or some other distraction. I cant believe it was deliberate. A tragedy indeed. Perhaps someone needs to start legislation to require some permit before pulling a horse trailer. Bottom line is check double check all doors hitches safety equiptment and always be aware of any subtle changes in handling. I am deeply saddend for all involved.

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