Downstate power plants come under fire

Downstate power plants come under fire

There are 30 comments on the IndyStar.com story from Nov 16, 2009, titled Downstate power plants come under fire. In it, IndyStar.com reports that:

Citizens groups in Southern Indiana are organizing opposition to two proposed wood-burning power plants that they say pose health and safety concerns.

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Nobody

United States

#1 Dec 1, 2009
All I've hear is how the city of Scottsburg wants people to come and vist the town. That's why they put up the sine by the Hwy 65 at a lot of cost to the taxpayer. Now they want to built a toxic plant by the same Hwy. What do you thank people will see first a two hundred foot smoke stack and tons and tons of trash or the wecome sine that can only be seen on Hwy 56 E. Oh, did I say the only people in Scott County that will make money off this is in office now "Vote"
pss

Malden, MA

#2 Dec 1, 2009
Nobody wrote:
All I've hear is how the city of Scottsburg wants people to come and vist the town. That's why they put up the sine by the Hwy 65 at a lot of cost to the taxpayer. Now they want to built a toxic plant by the same Hwy. What do you thank people will see first a two hundred foot smoke stack and tons and tons of trash or the wecome sine that can only be seen on Hwy 56 E. Oh, did I say the only people in Scott County that will make money off this is in office now "Vote"
what do you mean VOTE? is there somewhere we can go vote to oppose this?
dfg

Crothersville, IN

#3 Dec 2, 2009
Don't fight progress.
Nobody

Stout, OH

#4 Dec 2, 2009
When I saied vote I mean be carefull who you vote for. As for fighting progress 27 jobs and plant that will be shut down in six years with the way green movment is going is not progress It's putting money in the bank for a few people who plan on retiering from county jobs and moveing.
Soul Inc

Fort Thomas, KY

#5 Dec 7, 2009
Well first of all the sign mentioned was paid for by two not for profit organizations. No taxpayer money was involved. Secondly the prospective plant you are talking about will be built on Hwy 31 not 56. This is just the kind of stupid ideas that get people rattled, and not having facts correct. You might try reading just a bit. Do you really think the EPA and IDEM...look em up......would let any city start an unsafe factory of any kind.....do just a bit of research and quit being such a dummmmmmbie..............
Soul Inc

Fort Thomas, KY

#6 Dec 7, 2009
I might add..........prove to me any office holder will make money with this factory.......give me facts not just stupid ramblings.
Nobody

Fishers, IN

#7 Dec 23, 2009
I,m sorry you did not understand what I was writing about, I,m new to this. Hwy 65 goes under 56 were the sing can only be seen going east on 56. The plant will be built between Hwy31 and north 65 so like I said the first thing you will see will trash and smoke stacks and the smell will be bad. As far as money going to office holder do you thank a paper trail will be left behind. Bush allmost shut down the EPA but they will beback stronger then ever " it may not be bulit at all." As far as your mean comments grow up and act like a man or women who raised you a pack of Wolfs. Sounds like you might be part of this plant
dpht46

Crothersville, IN

#8 Dec 23, 2009
Having lived in a city with smoke stacks you cant smell it and it will save you money on trash desposal and might create a few jobs.
con

United States

#9 Jan 26, 2010
Nobody wrote:
All I've hear is how the city of Scottsburg wants people to come and vist the town. That's why they put up the sine by the Hwy 65 at a lot of cost to the taxpayer. Now they want to built a toxic plant by the same Hwy. What do you thank people will see first a two hundred foot smoke stack and tons and tons of trash or the wecome sine that can only be seen on Hwy 56 E. Oh, did I say the only people in Scott County that will make money off this is in office now "Vote"
does this make any sense ...we as a citized could get arrested for burning twigs in our yard (no burning not even woods debree is the law)and they want to put a plant in that burns wood? someone clue me in am I wrong? so then we can burn tree rubbish in our own property? thats a double standard ..isnt it?
Nobody

Bellefontaine, OH

#10 Jan 27, 2010
Did you know their to bulit a plant in Salem but ran out money. Now they start buliting in 2015 "maybe". Keep up the good work Scott Co. don't let eight or nine people destory the good work people in Scottsburg have done to make this town a little nicer to live in. Everybody in office now needs to be voted out.
con

Newtown, PA

#13 Jan 27, 2010
Power production operator wrote:
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See this is where the problem is.People are still thinking we use the same technology we used in the sixties.I have operated all types of power plants.My expertise is in the wood waste type boiler systems.
With the use of INDUCED DRAFT equipment(if you know what that is) a natural draft is not needed thereby rduce a SMOESTacks hight considerably.The last one I worked with was changed out to a Induced system and we went from a stack height of around 110' to one of about 30'.Also this will burn mainly uncontaminated wood waste ans will emit the same chemicals as people that use wood stoves.
As far as what release ateam contains,it will not be more than allowed by law.
And thinking these airborne chemicals cause autism I recemtly senn a report about some doctor given vaccines of a few years ago caused autism.You can claim that nonsense on about anything.
I cant you people worry this much about progress
in a city where people let their cars leak fluid all over the roads,release freon, and pour oil on the ground.I have seen alot of this.With all the EPA regulations my concern would be more of what the local citizens themselves have released into the enviroment!It not just the 35 jobs this creates,what if a another factory that creates wood waste wanted to build close to it cause they can get rid of their waste.How many more jobs is that.What about the local truck driving jobs this creates.These people have to and shop somewhere(Scotssburg/more revenue?)They could just as easily get water from stucker forkso you would not need Scottsburg for that.Lost revenue cause of cavemen!!!These are just some of my facts you little minded people that cant see passed your own street need to know about.Like I said I would be more worried about what kind of enviromental hazzard one of the locals causes then I would be of this plant.Com e on people the EPA will be on their as all the time ,trust me.They will keep it clean
little minded people...? come to the meeting about this and dare to call one of us "LITTLE MINDED PEOPLE" MR JERK
Wow

Mahwah, NJ

#14 Jan 27, 2010
It's amazing how people think just because a government agency says something is below the legal limit it is safe. The American Heart Association and the American Lung Association say that the levels of toxins that are legal to put into the air, will affect the health of the citizens in the area. This plant will be located less than 1/4 mile for an elemetary school, and less than 2 miles from 3 other schools. It will also be downwind from the majority of residents in Scottsburg. This plant will be putting large amounts of toxins into our air 24 hours a day, 7 days a week, 365 days a year. No one knows for sure what kind of impact this will have on the air we breath...but I can tell you it will be worse that what we have now. Take your plant to a big city were people could careless about the air they breath. Oh wait you can't because the EPA will not allow it because of the already bad air quailty in these areas. Thats why they have picked a small town, take you toxins elsewhere. 25 jobs and an increase in tax revenue for the city and county is nothing compared to the number of people who will move out of town or not move to town because of the toxins in the air. Find a new place to put you plant I'd like my kids to be able to breath when they play outside at their school
myth

Newtown, PA

#15 Jan 27, 2010
Wow wrote:
It's amazing how people think just because a government agency says something is below the legal limit it is safe. The American Heart Association and the American Lung Association say that the levels of toxins that are legal to put into the air, will affect the health of the citizens in the area. This plant will be located less than 1/4 mile for an elemetary school, and less than 2 miles from 3 other schools. It will also be downwind from the majority of residents in Scottsburg. This plant will be putting large amounts of toxins into our air 24 hours a day, 7 days a week, 365 days a year. No one knows for sure what kind of impact this will have on the air we breath...but I can tell you it will be worse that what we have now. Take your plant to a big city were people could careless about the air they breath. Oh wait you can't because the EPA will not allow it because of the already bad air quailty in these areas. Thats why they have picked a small town, take you toxins elsewhere. 25 jobs and an increase in tax revenue for the city and county is nothing compared to the number of people who will move out of town or not move to town because of the toxins in the air. Find a new place to put you plant I'd like my kids to be able to breath when they play outside at their school
I havent heard any comments about how the value of homes would be greatly depreciated..... has anyone thought of this? Once this is established it will be too late to bail out and try to sale your property!!!
myth

Newtown, PA

#16 Jan 27, 2010
con wrote:
<quoted text> does this make any sense ...we as a citized could get arrested for burning twigs in our yard (no burning not even woods debree is the law)and they want to put a plant in that burns wood? someone clue me in am I wrong? so then we can burn tree rubbish in our own property? thats a double standard ..isnt it?
totally 100% agree it would be a double standard~~~~some can ~~some cant is that what it boils down to????????? people dont you think any one that matters has already got thier minds made up and no mater what we think or want matters? if it is put in what are your plans? I would like to know what you are thinking will be your plans when it does get started. worse case senario? sell out and move?
salemite

Salem, IN

#17 Jan 28, 2010
The plant will be built between Hwy31 and north 65 so like I said the first thing you will see will trash and smoke stacks and the smell will be bad.

How do you know that?
Nobody

Brunswick, OH

#18 Jan 28, 2010
To Power production operator sounds like you are fishing for an other power plant to run. I've live in this county for 47 years they are not eought saw mills in this area to keep the plant runing, that's why they will start buring treated wood, skids, tires, and anything they can get their hands on. When you get a state permit to burn wood you can get a variance later to burn anything you want. As far as smokestacks if you look at IKE in Madison they are getting bigger and I would think they have a few more dollares to pay for smaler stack. The reason they so tall is so the souit would not fall on Madison, but as a Power production operator your big brain should know that. You sound more like a person in city office blowing smoke up peoples, well you know.
Power production operator

United States

#19 Jan 30, 2010
Big differance the way the stacks are set-up for wood or coal.I dont think they use wood in their boilers at the Madison power plant??!!%$#@Ash scubbers are used to remove particulates and ash in a wood system.Trust me it is not so easy to get permited to burn anything else that is not already listed.It is not legal to burn tires in Indiana anyway.There are plenty of mills around.Even a wood fuel company is with in proximaty.As far as a smoke stack being the first item to see when entering Scottsburg it depends won which direction you are going.If you come in from the East there is only the Buger King sign visible 3 miles back(unsightly advertising)If you come from the North only a water tower.The West,the water tower and from the south another water tower.I dont think a smokestack will take the beauty away from your preciuos water towers and Burger King sign.
As far as the enviroment,what about the old Scott Mfg plant that was allowed to operate for years only to leave behind that enormous BROWN feild area almost in the middle of town.YOu know that big peice of land that is contaminated and not much use.How does a plant aloowed to operate that long.(sound like some double standard,who you know who you blow....)
I would hate to think of what kind of chemiclas(lead for instance)that is leaching out from Baldwins just South of the court house.
Many numerous other places and things you people should deal with.
Don Te..y is letting yard waste and other stuff get dumped behind his business.
How close is muti-color watched?Did you ever notice the containment pond nxt to them just in caxse things get out of hand.I dont really think it is supposed to stay full of water.
Scottsburg is already an enviromental mess.
Did you even know there is more than one person that has gotten sick from chemicals they spray on your own local golf course?Chemicals making their way back to your streams and ditches.
You cant even eat fish out of streams in Indiana cause of the lead and mercury in the water.I guess Liberty Green is responsible for that as well.I wish you well in your right to deny yourself a modern culture.I see i have started you a nice list of enviromental hazzards in your little burg to deal with when your done running modern advancment out of town.You go caveman!!
I suppose i WILL stop here to rest my big brain
Mr.Nobody.
You should treasure that Burger King sign it is a real Scottsburg landmark!!
iaffy

Philadelphia, PA

#20 Jan 30, 2010
Power production operator wrote:
Big differance the way the stacks are set-up for wood or coal.I dont think they use wood in their boilers at the Madison power plant??!!%$#@Ash scubbers are used to remove particulates and ash in a wood system.Trust me it is not so easy to get permited to burn anything else that is not already listed.It is not legal to burn tires in Indiana anyway.There are plenty of mills around.Even a wood fuel company is with in proximaty.As far as a smoke stack being the first item to see when entering Scottsburg it depends won which direction you are going.If you come in from the East there is only the Buger King sign visible 3 miles back(unsightly advertising)If you come from the North only a water tower.The West,the water tower and from the south another water tower.I dont think a smokestack will take the beauty away from your preciuos water towers and Burger King sign.
As far as the enviroment,what about the old Scott Mfg plant that was allowed to operate for years only to leave behind that enormous BROWN feild area almost in the middle of town.YOu know that big peice of land that is contaminated and not much use.How does a plant aloowed to operate that long.(sound like some double standard,who you know who you blow....)
I would hate to think of what kind of chemiclas(lead for instance)that is leaching out from Baldwins just South of the court house.
Many numerous other places and things you people should deal with.
Don Te..y is letting yard waste and other stuff get dumped behind his business.
How close is muti-color watched?Did you ever notice the containment pond nxt to them just in caxse things get out of hand.I dont really think it is supposed to stay full of water.
Scottsburg is already an enviromental mess.
Did you even know there is more than one person that has gotten sick from chemicals they spray on your own local golf course?Chemicals making their way back to your streams and ditches.
You cant even eat fish out of streams in Indiana cause of the lead and mercury in the water.I guess Liberty Green is responsible for that as well.I wish you well in your right to deny yourself a modern culture.I see i have started you a nice list of enviromental hazzards in your little burg to deal with when your done running modern advancment out of town.You go caveman!!
I suppose i WILL stop here to rest my big brain
Mr.Nobody.
You should treasure that Burger King sign it is a real Scottsburg landmark!!
sounds like we need to go back to simple life WE already have enough waste (like you) and chemicals blowing (like you)
your a dolt

United States

#21 Jan 30, 2010
iaffy wrote:
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sounds like we need to go back to simple life WE already have enough waste (like you) and chemicals blowing (like you)
Go eat another whopper you caveman,you blow.I would like to stay in my city if i could ever find a job here without having to drive 20 miles one way.These people dont want it.Does not matter to them if there is no work.Half of them are on welfare anyway!!!
iaffy

Philadelphia, PA

#22 Jan 30, 2010
your a dolt wrote:
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Go eat another whopper you caveman,you blow.I would like to stay in my city if i could ever find a job here without having to drive 20 miles one way.These people dont want it.Does not matter to them if there is no work.Half of them are on welfare anyway!!!
hang around and u might get to work digging coal or slinging wood ! 20 miles for a better job B thankful you dont have to drive 40-50 miles a day! come on ! most people would b thrilled to get the privilage of getting to drive 15 min 2 work! the half of them that r on welfare dont want to drive to go 2 work.they r on welfare because they want 2 b. the operations person will b thrilled he has started a war and u r repeating his words "like" calling people CAVE MAN. he will like it when we put our own community down,, as he does,,, be a leader NOT a follower!

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