San Patricio County Jail
concerned wife

Marshall, TX

#43 Jun 18, 2011
REALLY wrote:
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Hi, I am really sorry about your loss. I was just wondering have you ever taken a moment to think about what the correctional officers had to go through themselves. If an inmate comes into a jail severely addicted to drugs there is only so much that can be do medically especially when detoxing. I wonder what runs through a correctional officers mind when they are trying to revive and give cpr to an inmate while knowing there is nothing they can do for him. I also wonder if the incident runs through there mind from time to time. I could imagine it would be a horrific scene for anyone to experiance. I mean they are not the enemy or a physician with all that said just security doing their jobs to make a living for thier family as you probably are as well.
you obviously know nothing about this jail! 80% of these "correctional officers" could care less about the inmates and well being.. The "medically trained" staff (when there are any available) arent even properly trained to deal with inmates in need of medical attention.. The issues at this jail have been reported to the texas commission on jail standards many times.. But of course nothing is ever done because a sergeant at our wonderful jail has a family member who currently works at TCJS. So by the time a report is made and an investigation or inspection is actually carried out,, san pat county is well aware and two steps ahead,, cleaning up their messes just in time! To answer your question tho,, yes,, I have thought about what goes through these officers minds,, I've even asked a few! All most of them think about is getting in there for their 12 hr shift,, doing the least amount of work as possible and going home.. Do u honestly think they care anything about these inmates that some treat worse than the pets they care for at home? They look down upon them,, one inmate gone,, is one less inmate they have to deal with..
Mom

Little Rock, AR

#44 Jun 20, 2011
Yes, I too have thought about what goes through their minds. I am one who cannot find any humor in listening to someone plead for help and be laughed at. I might be more sympatheic to "their" feelings if "those medically trained staff" had used their training to try to save my son. They did nothing. Obvioiusly, all they are concerned about is going to work and drawing a paycheck and having their amusement for the day.
real talk

Marshall, TX

#45 Jun 20, 2011
I hear you mom,, and I totally agree.. My husband is currently being held here in san pat and I cannot stand what goes on there.. I myself made reports to tcjs on the filthy jail and poorly trained officers that could care less about the inmates.. A girl that used to be an officer there recently informed me that the former sgt. Arnold,, now captain,, has a relative at that works for tcjs and whenever there's a report made she gives county a heads up so they know exactly what's coming.. It's ridiculous,, I'd rather have him in prison than in this god forsaken county! At least I'd sleep better at night knowing he's better taken care of..
you get what you deserve

United States

#46 Jul 2, 2011
All this complaining about the county jail, but who were the real victims? Well it wasn't your loved ones, it was the people they committed the crimes against. I've spent some time there also, but instead of complaining I realized that wasn't the place for me. Bottom line- stop doing the crime so you don't have to worry about how your gonna do the time!
velma

Sullivan, MO

#47 Jul 9, 2011
christine j wrote:
keep your ass out of trouble and you would not have to worry about it
well i tell you what if the cops dont like you they will mess with you even if you do not break the law ok
real talk

Marshall, TX

#48 Aug 10, 2011
you get what you deserve wrote:
All this complaining about the county jail, but who were the real victims? Well it wasn't your loved ones, it was the people they committed the crimes against. I've spent some time there also, but instead of complaining I realized that wasn't the place for me. Bottom line- stop doing the crime so you don't have to worry about how your gonna do the time!
what makes you think every person in county has committed a crime against another person? My husband isn't in there because of a crime he committed against another person you dumbass there are soooo many crimes that have nothing to do wit other people.. And just because they're in jail doesn't mean they don't deserve to be treated like human beings! Think before you speak..
real talk

Marshall, TX

#49 Aug 10, 2011
velma wrote:
<quoted text> well i tell you what if the cops dont like you they will mess with you even if you do not break the law ok
yep gurl ur so right! Some of these crooked ass pigs just need to meet their quota and they'll do whatever it takes to get there..
Maggiefayea

Marshall, TX

#50 Aug 18, 2011
Sinton police are a corupt and why they were put up to uphold the law is beyond me. They get by with too much injustice and they should be taken down. I have lived in Sinton my whole life and I have seen so much and hope that maby if people of the community would speak up and not be afraid things might change. I plan on fighting every injustice against me. I am not afraid of being told if you say one more word we will put you in a strait jacket and put you in a padded room naked for my opinion.
Mom from Arkansas

Little Rock, AR

#51 Aug 19, 2011
Evidently some people have mistaken what I have been trying to say in my many posts. I know that we must have police officers to serve and protect our country. But, on the same token, they should protect those who have been incarcerated and placed in county jails. Protecting those incarcerated individuals means providing them with the medical attention they need and deserve. I have never pointed a finger at any individual at this God forsaken county jail nor have I accused them of doing something to my son that caused his death. What I have said and what I will stand by until the day I die, is that they did NOTHING for him medically which could, and most likely would, have prevented his death.
pemo

Houston, TX

#52 Sep 7, 2011
well officers can only request medical assistance, they are only trained in basic first aid and your wondeful son who was a drain on society was a victim of Obama care... Get real do crime get caught convicted or not do time...
W Lopez

Andrews, TX

#53 Sep 23, 2011
I was incarcerated here from Saturday September 17th 2011 to Wednesday September 21 2011. I must say I agree with the healthcare treatment! I have a disease that I MUST take medication everyday for. I asked the Sgt on duty that Saturday night for my meds and she replied "I am not doing meds someone else is" then rolled her eyes and walked off. I didn't get my meds for 2 days even after asking for them almost every hour. The only other response I would get from several officers is that they would look into it! Also, I asked for a towel and soap so that I could shower they never gave me any of it until a couple hours before I was to be released and when I did get it I asked to go shower and they told me "Not right now." I also asked for a "Greivence Form" and never got that at all even when they said "ok we will get it to you". I am filing a report on my own with my lawyer. I also have heard several inmates dying because of their neglect to administer medication and failing to comply with health rules and regulations. Someone has to step up and I sure will be one of those persons to do just that!
just saying

De Soto, KS

#54 Sep 26, 2011
LSU Tiger wrote:
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Reading your post I get the impression you have been to many jails. I was hoping as a jail expert you would be more specific on the "worst ran jail I have ever seen." comment. What needs attention? What problems need looking into? Remember this is jail we are talking about and not club med. Jail is to punish and detour crime. Can't do the time, Don't do the crime.
yes they are crimnals and yes its jail,but they are human and its not a dog pound
meme

Aransas Pass, TX

#55 Oct 8, 2011
it is not about the inmates. it is about family that goes to visit stupid. besides your are innocent until proven guilty. if you are an addict does that make you less of a human think. about it before open your mouth
Paladin

Marshall, TX

#56 Nov 4, 2011
Everyone has complaints. No one offers any answers.

How do you provide comfortable living to people who endeavor 24 hours a day to make weapons and tools for escape from anything that they have? People have the intention of making sure I won't go home alive to see the people that I love, not because I have mistreated or "disrespected" them, but simply because I wear a uniform?

How do you provide medications to people who conceal, stockpile, freebase, and overdose on literally any medication that's given to them?People who will destroy themselves with ANYTHING you give them access to?

How do you communicate with people who automatically see you as the enemy and any kindness as an opportunity to gain the upper hand? Who swear at and threaten you and your children every day you see them?

How do you deal with someone who comes in, violent and intoxicated, time after time? How do you treat them gently when they have the intention of hurting you? After they've already hurt you the last time they came in in the same state?

How do you give them time to socailize and have increased liberty when they use it to then organize into gangs and victimize the weaker inmates? After you have seen them rob and injure old men and young boys?

How do you provide them with the opportunity to see their families when they invite their wives and girlfriends at the same time and fights break out on the floor at visitation? When they would rather see the gang members who put them in there in the first place than seeing the parents who raised them?

You wonder who is at fault? Every parent who thinks their child is still a good boy, despite the vicious acts that they perform. Every woman who pledges loyalty to a boy without the integrity to marry them and bares their many illegitimate children who will grow up never knowing their incarcerated parent. Every spouse willing to bring their small boys and girls into a visitation area where pedophiles and sex offenders can see them.

Give me the answers. Give me the way to fix it all and I will devote my life to making it happen. The only answer I have so far is to keep all the criminals out, and I don't think that's going to happen any time soon.
angry wife

Ingleside, TX

#57 Apr 2, 2012
W Lopez wrote:
I was incarcerated here from Saturday September 17th 2011 to Wednesday September 21 2011. I must say I agree with the healthcare treatment! I have a disease that I MUST take medication everyday for. I asked the Sgt on duty that Saturday night for my meds and she replied "I am not doing meds someone else is" then rolled her eyes and walked off. I didn't get my meds for 2 days even after asking for them almost every hour. The only other response I would get from several officers is that they would look into it! Also, I asked for a towel and soap so that I could shower they never gave me any of it until a couple hours before I was to be released and when I did get it I asked to go shower and they told me "Not right now." I also asked for a "Greivence Form" and never got that at all even when they said "ok we will get it to you". I am filing a report on my own with my lawyer. I also have heard several inmates dying because of their neglect to administer medication and failing to comply with health rules and regulations. Someone has to step up and I sure will be one of those persons to do just that!
They tell you that you don't have any rights when you go to jail that's all a lie you have medical rights they are running a death jail not a reform jail we don't deserve to lose are love ones because they have made a bad choice in their lives if that's the case everyone has made a bad choice one time are another no ones perfect it is not mans place to repay someone for their wrong god will repay them and by not giving someone the medical treatment they deserve is just cruel and unfair you know who you all ... are and you will have to pay for the ones you have hurt and let go sick and even die. God's not sleep its like carmen it used to take years to come back to you now it comes back in a matter of days I feel very sorry for krackers mom having to go thru this I'm very sorry for your son death my prayers go out to you and your family. He did not deserve to die. They receive our tax dollars to give medical attention in this jail but yet they don't give it instead they keep our tax dollars. They don't want to spend the money to give proper medical care everyone needs to know and I won't stop till. they know. Whatever it take's for the right people to find out.
Phymer

United States

#58 Jun 5, 2012
What about people that are wrongly accused. Should they be subjected to such treatment as well as a criminal?
Mom

Cabot, AR

#59 Jun 20, 2012
Thank you for your post. It has been a while since I have read topix. To answer your question, yes I have thought about what those correctional officers went through after they purposely let my son die. There was not on person there who attempted any type of life saving technique. I know this to be true because I have read and re-read each and every statement made by them. There was a PA there whom he never saw. They just threw him in a cell, ignored him, and let him die without even a mattress. I know correctional officers should not be the enemy, but they should do their jobs and at least obey the oaths they have taken. If they become the enemy, it is there fault. If he had been transported when he became so sick, he would have survived. And, where there is life, there is hope.
Mom

Cabot, AR

#60 Jun 20, 2012
Paladin wrote:
Everyone has complaints. No one offers any answers.
How do you provide comfortable living to people who endeavor 24 hours a day to make weapons and tools for escape from anything that they have? People have the intention of making sure I won't go home alive to see the people that I love, not because I have mistreated or "disrespected" them, but simply because I wear a uniform?
How do you provide medications to people who conceal, stockpile, freebase, and overdose on literally any medication that's given to them?People who will destroy themselves with ANYTHING you give them access to?
How do you communicate with people who automatically see you as the enemy and any kindness as an opportunity to gain the upper hand? Who swear at and threaten you and your children every day you see them?
How do you deal with someone who comes in, violent and intoxicated, time after time? How do you treat them gently when they have the intention of hurting you? After they've already hurt you the last time they came in in the same state?
How do you give them time to socailize and have increased liberty when they use it to then organize into gangs and victimize the weaker inmates? After you have seen them rob and injure old men and young boys?
How do you provide them with the opportunity to see their families when they invite their wives and girlfriends at the same time and fights break out on the floor at visitation? When they would rather see the gang members who put them in there in the first place than seeing the parents who raised them?
You wonder who is at fault? Every parent who thinks their child is still a good boy, despite the vicious acts that they perform. Every woman who pledges loyalty to a boy without the integrity to marry them and bares their many illegitimate children who will grow up never knowing their incarcerated parent. Every spouse willing to bring their small boys and girls into a visitation area where pedophiles and sex offenders can see them.
Give me the answers. Give me the way to fix it all and I will devote my life to making it happen. The only answer I have so far is to keep all the criminals out, and I don't think that's going to happen any time soon.
I wish I had the answeres. I would have worked miracles in my sons life many years ago. He was not violent, he wouldn't physically hurt a flea; he didn't think a uniform was the enemy; he didn't cause problems in the jail. He was SICK. Of course his illness was brought about by drugs. So, the Uniform immediately thought, oh he is just another junkie. But folks, he was my son and I love him and he did not deserve to die in the manner in which he did.
Mom

Cabot, AR

#61 Jun 20, 2012
pemo wrote:
well officers can only request medical assistance, they are only trained in basic first aid and your wondeful son who was a drain on society was a victim of Obama care... Get real do crime get caught convicted or not do time...
What does Obama care have to do with medical neglect at a jail?
jackie

United States

#62 Nov 29, 2012
Mom wrote:
<quoted text>What does Obama care have to do with medical neglect at a jail?
I agree with you and the idiot who keeps saying you shouldn't do the crime unless you can do the time has forgotten that not all the inmates have been proven guilty by a body of their peers. My daughter who is an epileptic had a seizure and wrecked her car, she was arrested for a DUI, not drug tested just assumed based on her appearance. She is disabled not a criminal and she still sits in Sinten innocent of a crime. What happen to innocent until proven guilty? there are innocent people there waiting to get their day in court to prove their innocense but they are treated as if they are guilty. And bail that is a joke why give away your money, exspecially for a single disabled Mom who had a car wreck. That tells me to never go to San Patricio County if a person can be arrested for being in a car wreck and appearing disoriented, who wouldn't be that could of been me, you or my 85 year old mom?

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