Double-fine enforcement on Highway 12 extended

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A string of fatal accidents on Highway 12 spurred state and local leaders into action in 2007.
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Bob

Oakland, CA

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Feb 24, 2010
 
What a bunch of fluff and bull excrement. The double fine designaton has nothing to do with safety and everything to do with revenue generation. The bariers have the most to do with the decrease in collisions, the rest is just plain luck.

"On the Solano County stretch of the highway alone, there were 69 traffic collisions in 2007 (the year before the double-fine zone and other improvements were authorized) and four fatalities. In 2009, those figures dropped to 66 collisions and one fatality. And there was one fatality on the Solano stretch of the highway in 2008, as well".

So the number of collisions droped from 69 all the way down to 66, WOW what an improvement. As for the four fatalities in 2007, if I remember correctly they were all the result of a single accident.
statistician

Vacaville, CA

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Feb 24, 2010
 
Bob wrote:
What a bunch of fluff and bull excrement. The double fine designaton has nothing to do with safety and everything to do with revenue generation. The bariers have the most to do with the decrease in collisions, the rest is just plain luck.
"On the Solano County stretch of the highway alone, there were 69 traffic collisions in 2007 (the year before the double-fine zone and other improvements were authorized) and four fatalities. In 2009, those figures dropped to 66 collisions and one fatality. And there was one fatality on the Solano stretch of the highway in 2008, as well".
So the number of collisions droped from 69 all the way down to 66, WOW what an improvement. As for the four fatalities in 2007, if I remember correctly they were all the result of a single accident.
Exactly right. A change of 3 out of 69 is statistically insignificant, especially since we don't know how the quantity of traffic changed. Because of the recession, traffic most likely went down, in particular truck and commute traffic. In that case, 66 in 2009 is probably more accidents per vehicle mile than 69 was in 2007.
BillyinRioVisty

San Francisco, CA

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Feb 24, 2010
 
No change has been made to the roadway between Suisun and the Railway Museum, yet now it is a double fine zone? It is ALL about money.
If safety was an issue at all, then CalTrans would be out there 24x7 to make improvements. The way they are progressing, the Bay Bridge will be done before Highway 12.
Mike

Lafayette, CA

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Feb 24, 2010
 
Hwy 12 between Cordelia & I-5, or even to Hwy 99 in Lodi needs to be made part of the Interstate Highway System with a 3 digit designator (such as I-505 or, I-680) and widened to at least 4 lanes the entire length. There is entirely too much traffic, especially heavy trucks, using this route to keep it a "back country road."

Extending fines, putting in barriers and the like equate to simply treating a much bigger problem with just a bandaid. Convert the damn road to a freeway.
gary

Kapolei, HI

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Feb 24, 2010
 
Of course this means that when the State raises fines statewide for every thing, these fines will go up again. Therefore I guess the deaths should drop to at least half. Oh happy days.
Jeff

Fairfield, CA

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Feb 24, 2010
 
Mike wrote:
Hwy 12 between Cordelia & I-5, or even to Hwy 99 in Lodi needs to be made part of the Interstate Highway System with a 3 digit designator (such as I-505 or, I-680) and widened to at least 4 lanes the entire length. There is entirely too much traffic, especially heavy trucks, using this route to keep it a "back country road."
Extending fines, putting in barriers and the like equate to simply treating a much bigger problem with just a bandaid. Convert the damn road to a freeway.
I agree, this highway is a main throughfare used not only by auto traffic but also by trucks hauling cargo for interstate commerce. This should have an interstate designation so federal funds can also be used for construction and maintenance. After all it is a connector highway from one interstate highway to another. It is used to shorten the drive by almost 80 miles if the trip had to route through the Sacramento area to get to Interstate 5 in the Lodi area.

As for the barriers. As a truck driver myself, these have only made the highway much more dangerous, much less room for driving and literally no room to react to something. We are literally forced to drive off the road, or plow into something ahead if something happens. Both are not acceptable. I dont know if you would like a truck driver hauling chlorine gas or liquified petrolium gas to have to make this kind of decision. I know I dislike having to take this route, but the alternative is not a feasable or efficient option.
Jeff

San Jose, CA

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Feb 24, 2010
 
As I stated before, so if some impatient driver decides to pass a big rig or grandpa driving his RV on Hgy 12 and hits an on coming car head on and kills everybody then the highway patrol can write a "double fine" ticket and pin it to his dead body in the carnage. Ya that really makes sense. This is another joke legislation from Lois Wolk to put more money in the Democrats coffers!
Get rid of this clown please!
The only way to fix Highway 12 is to widen it and put two lanes in each direction. Maybe Jim Sperring will take a pay cut to help pay for it since he heads up the Solano transportation committee.
Ya right,don't hold your breath!!!
greginrio

United States

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Mar 24, 2010
 
287.00 fine for driving with no lights on, but wait... in the middle of the day, not a cloud in sight, and having my lights on while driving 45 miles an hour is going to save my life? B.. S..
Traffic Control sign my ... Looks more like I got the extention all right.

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