Target sues San Diego gay rights group

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SAN DIEGO - Target Corp. is suing a San Diego pro-gay marriage group to get it to stop canvassing outside its San Diego County stores, alleging its activists are driving away customers.

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“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#128 Apr 26, 2011
Voice of Reality wrote:
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Actually my reading comprehension is quite good. You stated that children are born without bias and had to be taught it. Taking that issue one step further, children are born without a sex drive and a child has to, also, be taught about it and who it is appropriate with.
Same thing goes for many of the reasons there are so many generational welfare families, the parents plant the seed of what is the norm and little Brenda either makes the decision to get pregnant and wait to get her own apartment or waits on school and marriage to get pregnant and then has a future other than the projects.
Actually every child's sex drive develops naturally in their pre-teens- it's called puberty. Each child develops their own sexuality and sexual attraction, which is why some are gay, some are straight, some are attracted to blonds, some are attracted to tall people, some are attracted to certain personalities, etc.

If being homosexual has to be taught, how is it 99.9% of all gays & lesbians come from heterosexual families, raised in the identical manner & familial situation their straight siblings were?
Voice of Reality

Petersburg, VA

#129 Apr 27, 2011
WeTheSheeple wrote:
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Actually every child's sex drive develops naturally in their pre-teens- it's called puberty. Each child develops their own sexuality and sexual attraction, which is why some are gay, some are straight, some are attracted to blonds, some are attracted to tall people, some are attracted to certain personalities, etc.
If being homosexual has to be taught, how is it 99.9% of all gays & lesbians come from heterosexual families, raised in the identical manner & familial situation their straight siblings were?
They get those feelings based on who they were around when puberty started. It is not just family who forms the direction that children go.

“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#130 Apr 27, 2011
Voice of Reality wrote:
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They get those feelings based on who they were around when puberty started. It is not just family who forms the direction that children go.
Growing up in a small rural farming community, I was around the same people my siblings were around when I started puberty, yet they all turned out straight. I was around the same people all my classmates were around, yet 90% of them all turned out straight. We all had the same teachers, the same cooks & janitors at school, the same school bus driver, worked for the same local farmers, got candy & soda from the same grocery store, etc, etc, etc.

My nephew also grew up with his cousins and a small group of friends under nearly identical circumstances I did 20 years prior, yet they all turned out straight except for him.

Keep coming up with excuses.
Voice of Reality

Petersburg, VA

#131 Apr 27, 2011
WeTheSheeple wrote:
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Growing up in a small rural farming community, I was around the same people my siblings were around when I started puberty, yet they all turned out straight. I was around the same people all my classmates were around, yet 90% of them all turned out straight. We all had the same teachers, the same cooks & janitors at school, the same school bus driver, worked for the same local farmers, got candy & soda from the same grocery store, etc, etc, etc.
My nephew also grew up with his cousins and a small group of friends under nearly identical circumstances I did 20 years prior, yet they all turned out straight except for him.
Keep coming up with excuses.
No excuses here, just statements of facts. Have you ever read a thesis done about the evolution of a person, the title is What you are is where you were when. Your inlaws might have grown up around the same people that you did, however, they did not get the same feelings from the same people as you did. When they find and name the gay gene, I will believe that it is more than a decision.

“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#132 Apr 27, 2011
Voice of Reality wrote:
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No excuses here, just statements of facts. Have you ever read a thesis done about the evolution of a person, the title is What you are is where you were when. Your inlaws might have grown up around the same people that you did, however, they did not get the same feelings from the same people as you did. When they find and name the gay gene, I will believe that it is more than a decision.
You can believe what you want. I'm simply pointing out that your theories have absolutely no application to reality. It doesn't matter WHO I was around during puberty, I'd still be gay.
Voice of Reality

Petersburg, VA

#133 Apr 27, 2011
WeTheSheeple wrote:
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You can believe what you want. I'm simply pointing out that your theories have absolutely no application to reality. It doesn't matter WHO I was around during puberty, I'd still be gay.
So, we are to believe that being gay is predetermined at birth? If that be the case, there would be some physical or chemical reason as to why a small percentage of people are born with this malformed sexual orientation. Saying all of this there would be a need (if we are to believe that being gay is a condition and not a choice)for a gay gene or a gay chemical imbalence in the body that leaves this person with NO choice, other than being gay.

“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#134 Apr 28, 2011
Voice of Reality wrote:
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So, we are to believe that being gay is predetermined at birth? If that be the case, there would be some physical or chemical reason as to why a small percentage of people are born with this malformed sexual orientation. Saying all of this there would be a need (if we are to believe that being gay is a condition and not a choice)for a gay gene or a gay chemical imbalence in the body that leaves this person with NO choice, other than being gay.
Again, you can believe whatever you want. Most experts believe there is indeed some causal effect- likely a combination of genetic, hormonal, & chemical effects which establish sexual orientation in utero, much as handedness (i.e. left v right) is. Is there any concrete proof? No. But then there wasn't any proof of handedness either until a couples of years ago when they finally discovered a combination of genes which appear to have an effect.

Whatever the reason, it is simply irrelevant to the discussion of equal rights. Homosexuality is obviously a naturally occuring variation of sexual orientation. It's not a defect or a disease or anything that needs to be cured. Gays & lesbians are quite capable of living normal healthy productive lives. The only problems we have are dealing with the effects of discrimination.

Since: Oct 09

Location hidden

#135 Apr 28, 2011
Another unsubstantiated justification for a deviant lifestyle
WeTheSheeple wrote:
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Again, you can believe whatever you want. Most experts believe there is indeed some causal effect- likely a combination of genetic, hormonal, & chemical effects which establish sexual orientation in utero, much as handedness (i.e. left v right) is. Is there any concrete proof? No. But then there wasn't any proof of handedness either until a couples of years ago when they finally discovered a combination of genes which appear to have an effect.
Whatever the reason, it is simply irrelevant to the discussion of equal rights. Homosexuality is obviously a naturally occuring variation of sexual orientation. It's not a defect or a disease or anything that needs to be cured. Gays & lesbians are quite capable of living normal healthy productive lives. The only problems we have are dealing with the effects of discrimination.

“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#136 Apr 28, 2011
Honest AbeL wrote:
Another unsubstantiated justification for a deviant lifestyle
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Up your nose with a rubber hose!
Voice of Reality

Petersburg, VA

#137 Apr 28, 2011
WeTheSheeple wrote:
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Up your nose with a rubber hose!
Is that a new gay position, perhaps it will take the place of "The Poop Chute Scoot"?
Meh

United States

#138 May 17, 2011
WeTheSheeple wrote:
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Nope. Kids don't have biases. They don't care if you're black or jewish or gay. It's only when adults TEACH them to be biased that kids notice the differences between people.
That sure is a dose of denial isn't it? NO, kids definately notice differences without being taught. Kids naturally form pecking orders in groups and inherintly some get picked on WITHOUT outside influence from adults which is usually required to get them to behave.
Meh

United States

#139 May 17, 2011
BTW, I do not care one iota whom anybody cares to have sex with or is attracted to. I've met absolutely fine homosexual human beings and do not hold anything against them nor expect them to feel any shame. I WILL state factually however that while I may expect and accept a certain level of effeminate personality from homosexual men, some out there are so 13 year old girlishly effeminate that it is just flat out annoying and practically unacceptable to me. Basically, I accept homosexuals so genuinely that I hold them to every behavioral norm I hold anybody else to.

Since: Jan 09

Central NJ

#140 May 18, 2011
A thesis is someone's opinions put down in print! Who cares? Yes many of us were quietly and insidiously browbeaten into making the "Right" choice. They chose to get married and have families. They also took on a very unhappy life of misery. Such mariages usually end in divorce and worse. They work out for the first few years and the pressure grows and the cheating begins. This can wind up as bringing home a case of HIV or whatever. It can get ugly! Then the inevitable divorce and the whose not speaking to whom. More ugliness! Or it never gets that far and the gay spouse commits suicide. Very ugly! The families will not talk about it and the children are allowed to think all sorts of things. Why? all because the families could not accept that they produced a gay child and were sure that they were setting him on the correct path in life. Your so called morality has wrecked more lives than you will ever admit to!
Regards, Terry
Voice of Reality wrote:
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No excuses here, just statements of facts. Have you ever read a thesis done about the evolution of a person, the title is What you are is where you were when. Your inlaws might have grown up around the same people that you did, however, they did not get the same feelings from the same people as you did. When they find and name the gay gene, I will believe that it is more than a decision.

Since: Jan 09

Central NJ

#141 May 18, 2011
Let me say, I'm Transexual and I too find that same 13 yo girlish behavior extremly annoying, even when it's 13 yo girls doing it! I think this is one of the big annoyances between Gays and Transgendered.(BTW Drag Queens are not considered Transgendered, they are actors playing female character roles), But in fairness, many, many gays (especialy older ones)Do not act that way. Many are not effeminate in any way. Some are even bikers and other forms of blue collar macho.
Regards, Terry
Meh wrote:
BTW, I do not care one iota whom anybody cares to have sex with or is attracted to. I've met absolutely fine homosexual human beings and do not hold anything against them nor expect them to feel any shame. I WILL state factually however that while I may expect and accept a certain level of effeminate personality from homosexual men, some out there are so 13 year old girlishly effeminate that it is just flat out annoying and practically unacceptable to me. Basically, I accept homosexuals so genuinely that I hold them to every behavioral norm I hold anybody else to.
Meh

United States

#142 May 18, 2011
TerryE wrote:
Let me say, I'm Transexual and I too find that same 13 yo girlish behavior extremly annoying, even when it's 13 yo girls doing it! I think this is one of the big annoyances between Gays and Transgendered.(BTW Drag Queens are not considered Transgendered, they are actors playing female character roles), But in fairness, many, many gays (especialy older ones)Do not act that way. Many are not effeminate in any way. Some are even bikers and other forms of blue collar macho.
Regards, Terry
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Yes, I recognize that.

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