Heated dispute over Salt Lake County ...

Heated dispute over Salt Lake County Sheriff campaign ads

There are 14 comments on the Fox13Now story from Oct 26, 2010, titled Heated dispute over Salt Lake County Sheriff campaign ads. In it, Fox13Now reports that:

Candidate for Salt Lake County Sheriff, Jim Winder is arguing Beau Babka's new campaign ad is "desperate" and a "lie". Winder said he wants the ad pulled with an apology from Babka.

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Winder Voter

Herriman, UT

#1 Oct 26, 2010
If Babka doesn't know that the sheriff has nothing to do with "initiating" a fee or a tax, or any revenue into his own budget, how can he possibly be sheriff?? This is purely deceitful and dishonest! Two more reasons he shouldn't be a policeman, let alone the sheriff!
bring it

West Jordan, UT

#2 Oct 26, 2010
of course he has something to do with the fee
what i want to know why this was not put to a vote, it is considered a special assessment. but him and the mayor and the council side stepped that just as democrats always do
Vote Beau he is the only one i have heard any truth from
bring it

West Jordan, UT

#3 Oct 26, 2010
oh and by the way Winder voter
he did not stand up for the people that clip only shows how complacent he was
GO BEAU
BABKA is a LIAR

Park City, UT

#4 Oct 26, 2010
Yes Babka is a dishonest person and is lying to the citizens of SL County. He is a disgrace and embarrassment to law enforcement. He will say and do anything to get what is in it for HIM. Just ask the agencies he has worked for in the past. You will find there are many reasons he was not asked back or was asked to leave when he was there. My guess when he looses he wont be working for CH much longer.

The cops have your number Babka the gig is up with us we just hope the citizens see through your ever so fake facade

Re-Elect an honest hard working cop SHERIFF WINDER has delivered the past 4-years!
Tiff

Ogden, UT

#5 Oct 26, 2010
If winder wasn't for the fee why did we get it? I believe its 178.00 for the year, I feel that he is asking people to choose between groceries for their family or police protection, that's not fair! If he wants the ad pulled by Beau Babka maybe he should pull the billboard on I-15 that says he cut the budget by 14 million dollars because he may have done that but the citizens are now getting the bill.
snow

Salt Lake City, UT

#6 Oct 26, 2010
Tiff - If you live in Provo how are you paying any kind of a fee? I have personally worked with Beau and trust me he is a liar. He is out for one person and that's himself!! If you think 178.00 is bad wait for Beau to get in it will double and guess what Beau will tell you he has NOTHING to do with it at that point!
whatever

West Jordan, UT

#7 Oct 26, 2010
really snow, what did winder say or do to stop it
not a damn thing
i heard the clip where he says " he wasn;t against it just at that point in time he was
it is a total catch and release program in the jail and alternatives to incarceration gimme a break. I know it is supposed to help drug addicts that did not commit a violent crime but it is not helping them... if it is not a twelve step program it doesn;t work and no one in that county or in this state know how to implement a 12 step program nor do they want to know
beau is a step in the right direction he is not going to go along with the program of dems.
political correctness sucks!
James A Zimmerman

United States

#8 Oct 26, 2010
It is funny how the failing sheriff, Winder, comes out now saying Babka is lying. Yet Winders add profess a savings of $14M, yet the UPD budget is $16M and it took a fee to pay for it. The real liar in this discussion is Winder. He got caught and now is defensive because of it. I think the future sheriff, Beau Babka. Will work to fix this issue along with the other problems that Winder single handedly caused. Winder lost Cottonwood Heights, lost Bluffdale and spent nearly $2M renaming the sheriff's office to the Unified Police District. The UPD alone as not one single measurable success at the cost of nearly $2M. Winder touts it as a victory, but not one single city has joined the UPD. At the end of the day, Winder is using smoke and mirrors to hide the millions of wasted dollars and ruined relationships under the guise of progress. I am confident that the voters will see though Winders lies and fire is worthless butt come election day!
the batman west jordan

West Jordan, UT

#9 Oct 27, 2010
Its hard to read that there are so many people that refuse to get the facts, as for the savings you have to look at the Sheriffs office budjet as a whole, in the neighborhood of 100m, the total savings if you consider what the cost of the fuction that is now the UPD was much higher as the Sheriff's Office last year, there were cuts to the jail budject, patrol services(UPD) budject and to the Proctective Services budject, Plus I would like to add the reporter mis spoke it is not a county wide fee. The Sheriff stated he did not wish to see a tax increase to fund the UPD, that it should have been a County wide fee, since that is where the County was short, in providing County wide services not for law enforcement services. You also need to look at integrity which Beau has none, just look at his current employment situation ask how that works
Cottonwood

West Jordan, UT

#10 Oct 27, 2010
I love how Babka can never answer the questions. He's so dumb he can't even lie very well. He's just the Merril Cook of law enforcment and always will be. What will the Babka team do now start stealing winder signs, oh ya he started that before the add.
Watcher

Salt Lake City, UT

#11 Oct 27, 2010
Winder,
You have a lot of nerve speaking about lies.
Let’s see how the response is on just these two points.

1. In the Sherriff’s office under Jim Winder, Deputies are REQUIRED to attend annual Domestic Violence training, instructing them domestic violence is committed by men at such a majority the term suspect is synonymous with “He or Him” and if a deputy arrives on a Domestic Violence call where the male is injured, it is likely because the woman was “defending” herself.
(FYI.. Look up the Center for Disease Control’s study on this issue. Physically abusive domestic violence is most commonly committed by a woman. So why would the Sherriff, require his deputies to be taught and instructed on a lie?)

2. Jim Winder has for years told fathers and family who call for help on a custodial interference crime; it is a “civil issue.”
(Look up the code in the Utah criminal code; it is very clearly a CRIME. Why would the Sherriff not help to enforce a fathers being in a child’s life, and actually help in taking the father out of the child’s life?)

(Message to Jim Winder)
Many of the very deputies you smile and chat with are and have been watching you.
How many of them do you think have personally been victim to just these two disgraceful acts under your direct command and involvement?
How many of your deputies or police officers in general have not seen their children or have been beaten out of the child’s life by your direction. How many grandmothers and grandfathers have only a memory of a grandchild.

At the time of this post there are 10 comments. Chime in if you have been or know of someone who has been victim to the failure of law enforcement such as Jim Winder.
Try to say if you are a man, woman, mother, father, brother, sister, friend or even law enforcement if you want. Let’s let the numbers show Jim whose vote he has LOST!

Babka may or may not do it differently, but Winder has made it clear, it’s how he does business.

It will be a tossup and will likely be decided by the very Deputies, Winder "leads."

I for one will make it clear to my friends and family; I will sever any ties with ANY law enforcement officer who seeks to continue damaging an innocent child!
Wade W Slaughter

Salt Lake City, UT

#12 Oct 27, 2010
Well theres a new sheriff in town either way thank about that and take care
ATLASISSHRUGGING

Salt Lake City, UT

#13 Oct 27, 2010
Winder, you discust me.

I just made a few calls after reading Watcher's comment. IT'S TRUE!!!

This must mean Winder is WILLFULLY AND KNOWINGLY violating civil and constitutional rights!!!

Here is a link to a study that supports Watcher's claims. http://ajph.aphapublications.org/cgi/content/...

Winder's miss handling of this fee or tax is small potatoes compared to our rights!

Do the readers of this article realize how important our rights are? How important keeping our families together are?

I do not care who is running against Winder....it would have to better than willfully voting for someone who is knowingly violating individual rights.

It appears that Winder and DA Miller are cut from the same cloth.

Do not vote "party lines" people. Both sides have corruption.
stinger1

Chicago, IL

#14 Oct 27, 2010
Winter has had something to do with the property fees.
After getting his UPD and spending $800,000 to revape the cars and to up grade the computor systems for his deputies.
He left everyone elase out in the cold.
UPD did not get the pay cut that everyone else got.
All other county employees took a 2.75% pay cut.
Vote Babka, he would screw you over.

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