A gay meeting place opens

Dec 20, 2008 Full story: www.q-notes.com 12

SALISBURY, NORTH CAROLINA - Stuck between Charlotte and Greensboro along North Carolina's heavily-traveled I-85 sits the little town that's home to the Food Lion grocery chain and Republican U.S. Sen. Elizabeth Dole. For the past few years, this little Mayberry-esque dot-on-the-map has seen a tremendous amount of growth in business, but even so, Salisbury seems like the least likely place for a strong and visible LGBT community. But, despite all odds, it’s here where local LGBT community members and straight allies and parents have teamed up to create one of the most active Parents and Friends of Lesbians and Gays (PFLAG) chapters in the state. They’ve been successful at working straight allies in elected office and have won employment protection for LGBT city government employees. With strong financial support, the local PFLAG chapter is now offering scholarships to worthy students and are still trying to make some headway with local school officials. (In 2006, the Rowan County Board of Education voted to ban all gay-straight alliances.) And it’s here, in this small, unlikely town, where two high-spirited individuals have taken the next step toward a visible and strong LGBT community. Greg Ashley, 29, and Ryan Olsen, 39, a Salisbury couple in a committed relationship for four years, decided it was time to spice things up in their little town. With successes on the city level brought on by local PFLAGers, Ashley and Olsen decided it was time for the city’s gay community to grow some more. Dedication and hard work have brought about Salisbury’s second-ever gay bar, downtown’s George’s Italian Restaurant. A popular eatery by day, the restaurant’s owner has allowed Ashley and Olsen to organize their very own gay nightlife events after hours. “This has always been a dream of mine,” Olsen said. “It’s time we have a place in Salisbury where we can go within the community.” Olsen grew up here, so he knows first hand what it was like not to have a place to go, especially when you’re gay. “When I was younger, I had to drive all the way to Charlotte every weekend, just to go out,” he related.

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Since: Dec 08

El Paso, TX

#1 Dec 20, 2008
Congrats Greg and Ryan! And much thanks to PFLAG too!
Brian

Los Angeles, CA

#2 Dec 20, 2008
Greg and Ryan, Congratulations. Now I'll have a reason to visit your state. Your group sounds great! People like you give us all hope.
Kelli Mc-Smith

Apex, NC

#3 Dec 28, 2008
That's wonderful Greg and Ryan! Cheers to you both!
Rick

Charlotte, NC

#4 Feb 17, 2009
When you plug in a lamp, the cord on the lamp has a male fitting on the end. The receptacle in the wall has a female receiving device. This works. If both have male fittings it doesn't work. If both have female receiving devices it doesn't work. Case closed.

“I am happy”

Since: Jul 08

St. Petersburg, FL

#5 Feb 18, 2009
Rick wrote:
When you plug in a lamp, the cord on the lamp has a male fitting on the end. The receptacle in the wall has a female receiving device. This works. If both have male fittings it doesn't work. If both have female receiving devices it doesn't work. Case closed.
Wow, you are a special kind of crazy. You are comparing one's sexual orientation to electrical contracting??? That is a new one for me.

Since: Dec 08

El Paso, TX

#6 Feb 18, 2009
Rick wrote:
When you plug in a lamp, the cord on the lamp has a male fitting on the end. The receptacle in the wall has a female receiving device. This works. If both have male fittings it doesn't work. If both have female receiving devices it doesn't work. Case closed.
You no doubt stuck your tongue in an electrical outlet as a child. Did it taste like fish?
Rick

Charlotte, NC

#7 Feb 21, 2009
Fashion designers beware....you have competition out there!
y0s3v

Carlton, Australia

#8 Apr 22, 2009
Even dogs know that it is between male and female. Never I have seen a male dog go after another male dog. We are humans, how come we have fallen so far to the status that's even lower than dogs! The nature already explains it well, it was, it is, and it will always be between male and female. That's why man has pennis and woman has vagina+womb. Can we understand this simple logic?

Since: Jan 07

Ann Arbor, MI

#9 Apr 22, 2009
y0s3v wrote:
Even dogs know that it is between male and female. Never I have seen a male dog go after another male dog. We are humans, how come we have fallen so far to the status that's even lower than dogs! The nature already explains it well, it was, it is, and it will always be between male and female. That's why man has pennis and woman has vagina+womb. Can we understand this simple logic?
So nothing exists/happens if you personally haven't witnessed it?

Actually, there are plenty of animals that exhibit homosexual behavior, including pair-bonding.

Does that mean what we observe in animals should be a guide to what is or isn't appropriate behavior for humans? No.

What's more, your using an argument based in procreation, but human sexuality is far more complex than this, and rarely used exclusively for that purpose.

Calling people "lower than dogs" when their orientation guides them to seek loving relationships with someone of the same sex says more about you than it does about them.

Since: Jan 07

Ann Arbor, MI

#10 Apr 22, 2009
Rick wrote:
When you plug in a lamp, the cord on the lamp has a male fitting on the end. The receptacle in the wall has a female receiving device. This works. If both have male fittings it doesn't work. If both have female receiving devices it doesn't work. Case closed.
Humans aren't lamps, nor is their sexuality based merely on what body parts may fit into other body parts.

Bigotry refuted.
y0s3v

Carlton, Australia

#11 Apr 23, 2009
There is a big difference between loving someone and having sex with someone. We must love everyone regardless of their sex and even of their sex orientation but having sex with someone of same sex?? What is this? I am sorry but the nature itself has defined us! The nature has defined us and fashioned us male and female! C'mon, it doesn't make sense all of these arguments justifying same sex sexual relationship, and I am not talking loving relationship here! Love is different with sex. I am talking about same sex sexual relationship, even dogs don't do it.

Since: Jan 07

Ann Arbor, MI

#12 Apr 23, 2009
y0s3v wrote:
There is a big difference between loving someone and having sex with someone.
You're not telling us anything we don't already know.
DJ A wrote:
We must love everyone regardless of their sex and even of their sex orientation but having sex with someone of same sex?? What is this?
Well, just as for heterosexuals, it can either be a physical act engaged in for pleasure, or it can be a physical expression of one's love that strengthens the bond between a couple. Not our fault that you refuse to see how the latter applies to both opposite-sex and same-sex couples.
DJ A wrote:
I am sorry but the nature itself has defined us! The nature has defined us and fashioned us male and female!
"Nature" is not a sentient entity. The fact that two sexes exist does not in any way limit the capacity of two people of the same-sex to fall in love with each other.
DJ A wrote:
C'mon, it doesn't make sense all of these arguments justifying same sex sexual relationship, and I am not talking loving relationship here!
Saying it doesn't make sense is nothing more than your unsupported, uninformed, willfully stubborn opinion. No one has any obligation to share it or be persuaded to it, since you clearly have nothing but an extremely flawed "argument" to back it up.
DJ A wrote:
Love is different with sex. I am talking about same sex sexual relationship, even dogs don't do it.
Actually, dogs do engage in same-sex mounting, but what does that have to do with anything? Humans aren't dogs and the behavior of dogs isn't a guide to how humans should behave. Bottom line - whether or not some other species engages in same-sex behavior does not tell us anything about the merits of human same-sex relationships & behavior.

Why are you focusing on only the sexual aspect of a same-sex relationship?

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