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Police chief: We need armed officers in every school

There are 27 comments on the Herald-Citizen story from Dec 18, 2012, titled Police chief: We need armed officers in every school. In it, Herald-Citizen reports that:

Each morning this week, Cookeville Police officers have driven through the parking lots at all city schools, hoping to help students, teachers, and parents feel a little bit safer.

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Tired of paying

Cookeville, TN

#1 Dec 19, 2012
Thats a great idea, but I think parents that have children enrolled in schools should have to pay a "fee" to pay for the salaries of these officers. I am tired of my taxes going up because of our school system. I have no children and am tired of paying for everyone else's.
yup yup

Cookeville, TN

#2 Dec 19, 2012
And watch the rate of kids in public school drop.
ewww

United States

#3 Dec 19, 2012
Maybe more consideration will be given for homeschooling. Taxes for some are too high and they're barely able to pay that, let alone raise them again. I don't know what the solution is,
listen

Sparta, TN

#4 Dec 19, 2012
Schools need armed guards at each door.
Somebody

Crossville, TN

#5 Dec 19, 2012
Armed guards? Yes. Armed teachers? Never. Sorry but being a teacher doesn't make somebody qualified to carry and safely use a gun, even after going through the required training course and there's no guarantee that the teacher's weapons won't be inadvertently left unsecured.

The only people who have any business having "armed security" in their job descriptions are people who have undergone training that extends far beyond the minimum required to carry: Law enforcement and retired military. Now if a teacher wants to attend a police academy shooting course on their own time and dime and maintain their skills at a level on par with that of expected from law enforcement, then that's another story entirely but arming that many inexperienced people has the potential for turning a horrible situation into a nightmare.

One shooter is bad enough. 1 malicious gunman + 50 other shooters + 300 kids =???
Limp Willie

Cookeville, TN

#6 Dec 19, 2012
Tired of paying wrote:
Thats a great idea, but I think parents that have children enrolled in schools should have to pay a "fee" to pay for the salaries of these officers. I am tired of my taxes going up because of our school system. I have no children and am tired of paying for everyone else's.
Sounds like you should have invested in Viagra years ago.
wow

Crossville, TN

#7 Dec 20, 2012
Tired of paying wrote:
Thats a great idea, but I think parents that have children enrolled in schools should have to pay a "fee" to pay for the salaries of these officers. I am tired of my taxes going up because of our school system. I have no children and am tired of paying for everyone else's.
Unreal. You were once a child and wherever you went to school, it was paid for by taxpayers (unless you attended a private school). Education is the key to the future and should always be a priority when funding is considered. Just because you have no children doesn't mean you won't benefit from having good schools here either. Good schools attract businesses and help keep crime rate down.
I am totally against all the wars and going into other countries to bolster them. I don't like paying taxes to cover that, but I still have to, whether I like it or not.
Wise guy

Cookeville, TN

#8 Dec 20, 2012
I nominate Eric Hall. He's good at shooting stuff to maintain control of a situation
Common sense

Clover, SC

#9 Dec 25, 2012
Having armed guards wouldn't be enough. We needed armed teachers. However, not every teacher needs one. The ones that will use them need to pass background checks, mental checks, and gun training. We have smart people running tennessee and our schools. But we do not have enough enough gaurds to protect every school in Putnam County.
po po

Summerville, SC

#10 Dec 25, 2012
Somebody wrote:
Armed guards? Yes. Armed teachers? Never. Sorry but being a teacher doesn't make somebody qualified to carry and safely use a gun, even after going through the required training course and there's no guarantee that the teacher's weapons won't be inadvertently left unsecured.
The only people who have any business having "armed security" in their job descriptions are people who have undergone training that extends far beyond the minimum required to carry: Law enforcement and retired military. Now if a teacher wants to attend a police academy shooting course on their own time and dime and maintain their skills at a level on par with that of expected from law enforcement, then that's another story entirely but arming that many inexperienced people has the potential for turning a horrible situation into a nightmare.
One shooter is bad enough. 1 malicious gunman + 50 other shooters + 300 kids =???
I think your reading too much into this. I believe that anyone who has a valid conceiled carry permit should be able to carry anywhere. A teacher with a valid permit would not be asked to perform any extra duty or act as a guard. They would just be permitted to protect themselves and their students IF someone tried to shoot them.
whattomake

Manchester, TN

#11 Dec 25, 2012
I don't know if I trust this idea. From what I understand of this horrific crime, the assailant would have had overwhelming firepower even in the event of an armed security guard. I don't know if the very isolated and random incidents of these mall, theatre, and school shootings and such is the proper justification for what would, essentially, be a "police state" evolving in America, with armed guards posted in each and every public facility. It seems like exploitation for no real reason other than to justify expenditures that are probably entirely unnecessary. It would honestly make more sense to me to spend more money on devising smaller classrooms, more community-oriented schools and administrations for them, and spending a little more public dollars on addressing mental-illness problems and keeping guns out of the hands of crazies in the first place. I see too much of our country using this despicable crime committed by a madman to make this country into more of a place that resembles North Korea in some respects for my tastes when so many publically-elected officials are calling for things like this... the LAST thing we need in my opinion is armed guards in our schools. We need parent-teacher involvement in our public lives, civic education, and an honest spiritual renewal of our collective psyche to address such actions. Just my two cents on it, the school systems and the authorities that want to address these things are free to address them however they choose to do so. If their new plan to arm every school stops it from happening again, more power to them.
whattomake

Manchester, TN

#12 Dec 25, 2012
po po wrote:
<quoted text>I think your reading too much into this. I believe that anyone who has a valid conceiled carry permit should be able to carry anywhere. A teacher with a valid permit would not be asked to perform any extra duty or act as a guard. They would just be permitted to protect themselves and their students IF someone tried to shoot them.
One more. I don't see how this is anything OTHER than a good idea. ONE armed teacher or janitor or cafeteria worker could have made a world of difference here. And your argument is completely solid... they would be performing no additional duties whatsoever, permit owners seek their permits to begin with merely for the purpose of self-protection. It's not "guard-duty," which is not the purpose of "school" to begin with. I will speak no more on the subject, you're thread now guys.
listen

Sparta, TN

#13 Dec 25, 2012
Obama's kids have 11 guards at their school.
http://www.ammoland.com/2012/12/24/school-oba...

Since: Aug 11

Crossville, TN

#14 Dec 26, 2012
Armed guards in the schools would be making everything more of a "police state". I agree with the post above made by "whattomake". I believe that arming teachers and staff (as long as they go through the right training) would be better. The cops are already taking their gun and badge way to far. Unjustifiable traffic stops, policing for profit, unwarranted search of peoples vehicles. Thats just to name a few. People are putting way to much trust into the police forces that are suppose to protect us. These guys are there (for the most part) to protect us, they take orders from the federal government and are going to do what they are told to do. Eventually its going to be like the town of Paragould, Arkansas, bet no one has heard about that. They have declared martial law in this town with police swat on every street, why because they want you to get used to it. Its soon to be on every street. This is one story that hasn't been covered by main stream media. You can call me crazy if you want, I've been called worse, but seriously I think teachers and staff are better at the job of protecting our children then letting their schools become a police driven campus.

DeDominicis

“John Averitt is a molester.”

Since: Nov 08

Cookeville

#15 Dec 27, 2012
SRO officers are at the ready to arrest children for backtalk and assist sub mediocre achool bullies we call "teachers", not aide the student body.
Hey

Crossville, TN

#16 Dec 27, 2012
listen wrote:
Obama's kids have 11 guards at their school.
http://www.ammoland.com/2012/12/24/school-oba...
And the lives of his kids are no more important than the lives of our kids. Good article and glad you posted it.
listen

Sparta, TN

#17 Dec 27, 2012
Hey wrote:
<quoted text>And the lives of his kids are no more important than the lives of our kids. Good article and glad you posted it.
David Gregory's kids go there too.
right

Cookeville, TN

#18 Dec 28, 2012
Hey wrote:
<quoted text>And the lives of his kids are no more important than the lives of our kids. Good article and glad you posted it.
And someone would kidnap your children for political purposes?
Obama and his family has no more security detail than any other president before him did, or any president no longer in office still does for that matter.
waitasec

Cookeville, TN

#19 Dec 28, 2012
Teachers with conceal and carry, should be allowed to carry at school at all times. They can train easily for these types of activities. Hunters can guard, they know how to be ready. Vets can volunteer. Lots of ways to do this without spending more money.

DeDominicis

“John Averitt is a molester.”

Since: Nov 08

Cookeville

#20 Mar 8, 2013
Armed officers allowed several bad people with ill intent into CHS in the year 2000 and were unable to keep the people out of the buildings. Janie Brock,Maryanne Rohr and those who were and are still employed in other institutions that implement the policies of John B. Averitt such as Fessler,S. Boyd and the like shouldnt be employed locally, shouldnt receive a check and shouldnt be allowed around minors at all.

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