Bill to Arm VA School Employees Faces...

Bill to Arm VA School Employees Faces 1st Test

There are 39 comments on the NBC29 Charlottesville story from Jan 15, 2013, titled Bill to Arm VA School Employees Faces 1st Test. In it, NBC29 Charlottesville reports that:

Del. Bob Marshall's bill would require school boards to designate one person in every school who would be authorized to carry a concealed handgun on school property.

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Ice Dogg

Cumming, GA

#1 Jan 17, 2013
Its not only the video games that drive the crazies, but the John Wayne movies as well. The wild west was a fantasy people. Most of the people were poor farmers, not gun toting freedom fighters. We need to get over the love affair with the gun. Those screwed up young men think the only way they can prove their manhood is with a gun. And the NRA just enforces that.
Hopeless

Charlottesville, VA

#2 Jan 17, 2013
Guns in school? We tell kids guns aren't allowed
but now want them to be there?

You can not legislate crazy folks from doing harm to others. Prepare for it but don't expect to stop it.

WHAT A TIME WASTER!!!
excop

Bassett, VA

#3 Jan 17, 2013
I say we arm every teacher, principal, and janitor! You guard your money at a bank, do you not feel your children are worth saving?
County Resident

Raleigh, NC

#4 Jan 17, 2013
excop wrote:
I say we arm every teacher, principal, and janitor! You guard your money at a bank, do you not feel your children are worth saving?
There are no armed guards at ANY bank around here, besides, your money is not IN the bank...it's on paper, dummy. ONE PERSON in a school that is armed? What if that person is somewhere else in the building when the intruder comes in? I can't believe the turn this national conversation has taken.
sez you

Charlottesville, VA

#5 Jan 17, 2013
Ice Dogg wrote:
Its not only the video games that drive the crazies, but the John Wayne movies as well. The wild west was a fantasy people. Most of the people were poor farmers, not gun toting freedom fighters. We need to get over the love affair with the gun. Those screwed up young men think the only way they can prove their manhood is with a gun. And the NRA just enforces that.
I grew up with the Lone Ranger, Sargent Preston, Bonanza, Gene Autry, and all the rest but I never found my identity through a dum gun which is what your implying. Unfortunately though what you say is true for a lot of gun nuts if not most. The reality is most men are insecure about themselves and have no sence of self and find solace and fellowship through an identity with other gun nuts. Their egos demand respect but the only way to find it is with other gun nuts.
todd

Richmond, VA

#6 Jan 17, 2013
i will seriously consider alternative education or possibly moving, if we really begin arming our teachers and administrators.

just sickens me to think we have to fight fear with more fear
WTH

Waynesboro, VA

#7 Jan 17, 2013
sez you wrote:
<quoted text>I grew up with the Lone Ranger, Sargent Preston, Bonanza, Gene Autry, and all the rest but I never found my identity through a dum gun which is what your implying. Unfortunately though what you say is true for a lot of gun nuts if not most. The reality is most men are insecure about themselves and have no sence of self and find solace and fellowship through an identity with other gun nuts. Their egos demand respect but the only way to find it is with other gun nuts.
This is about protecting KIDS in a 'sitting duck' situation. If a criminal or mentally-unstable person gains entrance with a weapon and starts killing people, somebody in that institution should be prepared to STOP the attacker with whatever force is necessary, even with a firearm. That is the only way to protect innocent lives. By the way, we're not interested in your childhood fantasies so stay on topic. Also, what is a 'gun nut'? I own guns and love shooting them. Are you calling me a 'nut'? It sounds like you are the idiot.
shaking

Newaygo, MI

#8 Jan 17, 2013
oh please. Armed an properly trained personnel didn't stop the gunman at Fort Hood, or Va. Tech. There was an armed security personnel at Columbine, but he was in a different area when it happened. This is a waste of time and our money. Lets fund public education, not arm them.
WTH

Waynesboro, VA

#10 Jan 17, 2013
shaking wrote:
oh please. Armed an properly trained personnel didn't stop the gunman at Fort Hood, or Va. Tech. There was an armed security personnel at Columbine, but he was in a different area when it happened. This is a waste of time and our money. Lets fund public education, not arm them.
The police stopped the terrorist at Fort Hood. Unfortunately, they weren't in that building at the time. The point you are missing is that if any of the SOLDIERS had been armed, they would have immediately killed the shooter. How do I know? Because I would have. What's really stupid here is that our SOLDIERS aren't permitted to wear their sidearms on base. That would have saved dozens of lives. You see, our soldiers don't typically shoot each other. Only those who are imposters such as the terrorist do these kind of things.
gun stuff

Charlottesville, VA

#11 Jan 17, 2013
Ok , then send all kids to school with bullet proof vests
Commentor

Verona, VA

#12 Jan 17, 2013
The armed officer at Columbine followed police procedure at the time and did NOT enter the school. He trade a few shots and then waited for SWAT, as he was trained to do, while the shooting took place. That policy has since been changed.

The Army tightly controls who has weapons on a base. Soldiers only draw weapons when needed, NOT when standing in line, and weapons are strictly controlled on post. In fact, the Fort Hood shooting was stopped when base security arrived and shot the suspect, paralyzing him.

I'm for some sort of armed officer, deputy, resource officer or whatever you might want to call it in schools.

I know in my high school in the 90s, violence between students was common because students could get away with it. Borderline assault, really. Disruptive teens we're sent to the principles and they're right back in class the next day.(In the real world, the working world, disruptive employees are escorted out by security and fired.)

When a part time resource officer was assigned, things improved greatly. The threat of arrest by an officer is much more effective than a suspension. Troubled kids don't care about suspension, not really.

Arming teachers? I don't know, maybe. Having a dedicated officer, volunteer deputy that deals with security, student intimidation/violence, and other discipline issues..essentially school security..it's a no brainer.
sez you

Charlottesville, VA

#13 Jan 17, 2013
WTH wrote:
<quoted text>
This is about protecting KIDS in a 'sitting duck' situation. If a criminal or mentally-unstable person gains entrance with a weapon and starts killing people, somebody in that institution should be prepared to STOP the attacker with whatever force is necessary, even with a firearm. That is the only way to protect innocent lives. By the way, we're not interested in your childhood fantasies so stay on topic. Also, what is a 'gun nut'? I own guns and love shooting them. Are you calling me a 'nut'? It sounds like you are the idiot.
Yeh your a nut, if the shoe fits wear it. Having a gun nut in a school won't stop the next tragedy. A determined person will find a way. If I recall there was a shooting where the kids were outside when attacked, you gonna put up concrete walls around all schools? You can't stop a crazed person with a gun from doing evil, but you can take the guns away, and thats what other developed, sane countries have done, and thats why this dark ages country ranks at the top for gun violence, cause of gun nuts like you.
Andrew

Charlottesville, VA

#14 Jan 17, 2013
Let me put this in simple terms. Bullies only understand one thing....a punch in the mouth. You can't reason with them or plead with them. They are going to do what they want because they know that they can get away with it. If they think they're going to get hit back, they go somewhere else. Training and arming school personnel is a great deterrent. The bad guy will not know who is armed and who isn't and that will give them pause. They don't want to fight, they want to control and kill. Not knowing who is going to fight back will be a great deterrent. It will save lives and prevent crime. Making new laws for criminals to ignore will not help.
sane in cville

Charlottesville, VA

#15 Jan 17, 2013
sez you wrote:
<quoted text>Yeh your a nut, if the shoe fits wear it. Having a gun nut in a school won't stop the next tragedy. A determined person will find a way. If I recall there was a shooting where the kids were outside when attacked, you gonna put up concrete walls around all schools? You can't stop a crazed person with a gun from doing evil, but you can take the guns away, and thats what other developed, sane countries have done, and thats why this dark ages country ranks at the top for gun violence, cause of gun nuts like you.
If you take the guns away from law abiding people that doesn't take away the guns from criminals, crazies, etc. The places where these mass shootings have recently taken place are places the shooter has known there would be anyone else armed.

The "sane countries" you mention have socialist governments where people have few rights. Here in America we need to stand up and fight to defend our Constitution.
sez you

Charlottesville, VA

#16 Jan 17, 2013
Andrew wrote:
Let me put this in simple terms. Bullies only understand one thing....a punch in the mouth. You can't reason with them or plead with them. They are going to do what they want because they know that they can get away with it. If they think they're going to get hit back, they go somewhere else. Training and arming school personnel is a great deterrent. The bad guy will not know who is armed and who isn't and that will give them pause. They don't want to fight, they want to control and kill. Not knowing who is going to fight back will be a great deterrent. It will save lives and prevent crime. Making new laws for criminals to ignore will not help.
All wrong.
Andrew

Charlottesville, VA

#17 Jan 17, 2013
sez you wrote:
<quoted text>All wrong.
Nothing like a well thought out rebuttal. What's next? "Oh yeah?"

<eye roll>
WTH

Waynesboro, VA

#18 Jan 17, 2013
gun stuff wrote:
Ok , then send all kids to school with bullet proof vests
Is that your final answer? Surely you can do better than that. What is YOUR solution for keeping our kids safe in schools?
sane in cville

Charlottesville, VA

#19 Jan 17, 2013
sez you wrote:
<quoted text>All wrong.
All RIGHT.
WTH

Waynesboro, VA

#20 Jan 17, 2013
sez you wrote:
<quoted text>Yeh your a nut, if the shoe fits wear it. Having a gun nut in a school won't stop the next tragedy. A determined person will find a way. If I recall there was a shooting where the kids were outside when attacked, you gonna put up concrete walls around all schools? You can't stop a crazed person with a gun from doing evil, but you can take the guns away, and thats what other developed, sane countries have done, and thats why this dark ages country ranks at the top for gun violence, cause of gun nuts like you.
No, you can't take guns away. Just like you can't simply eliminate illegal drugs and drug use. So, knowing this, what is your next best logical solution for keeping our children safe in schools.
County Resident

Raleigh, NC

#21 Jan 17, 2013
sane in cville wrote:
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If you take the guns away from law abiding people that doesn't take away the guns from criminals, crazies, etc. The places where these mass shootings have recently taken place are places the shooter has known there would be anyone else armed.
The "sane countries" you mention have socialist governments where people have few rights. Here in America we need to stand up and fight to defend our Constitution.
Socialist? Not Great Britain. No one has answered this question in any of the posts: how many armed guards would it take to protect a school so that an armed person could be everywhere to intercept a wacko with a gun? HOW MANY??? You know as well as I do that one is not enough.

Also no one has even touched this question: how do we fund these armed guards? Law enforcement says it will take millions to fund this. HOW DO WE FUND THIS???

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