McDonnell's Budget Cuts Draw Reaction

McDonnell's Budget Cuts Draw Reaction

There are 74 comments on the NBC29 Charlottesville story from Feb 17, 2010, titled McDonnell's Budget Cuts Draw Reaction. In it, NBC29 Charlottesville reports that:

Everyone from students to state employees is fired up about Governor McDonnell's proposed budget cuts, cuts that could mean mandatory furloughs and slash financial aid for thousands of people.

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Disillusioned

Charlottesville, VA

#48 Feb 19, 2010
radical housewife wrote:
I want to hear the rationale for McDonnell re-opening the rest stops and slashing other more important items such as workers' salaries and state parks (Virginia was number one in state parks for the country several times in the past decade, and these places generate funds). In other states, they may have no rest stops, but the roads are actually in good repair (unlike many of Virginia's roads). As a taxpayer, I prioritize education, conservation, transportation for Virginia residents (in this order) with access to bathroom facilities for all (especially those just passing through) somewhere near dead last. Regarding the comment about making "deposits"- I totally agree.
From what I recall from his first speech as Governor, he is putting an emphasis on trying to market Virginia as a vacation location and to promote our state as a good location for movies to be made and industries to move here. Perhaps he feels that visitors who are driving our interstates as guests don't get a very good impression of our commonwealth when the rest areas are closed.

In addition, there is a huge safety concern for truckdrivers and travelers who need a place to pull off and rest.

We all have our opinions on how to balance the budget, and I may not like 100% of his choices, but I believe he is trying to get us back on track better than Tim Kaine did. At least we have a full time Governor who took a pay cut before even taking office.
Chuck Bartowski

Loretto, PA

#49 Feb 19, 2010
Mr.(or Ms.) Memory-Challenged Wingnut,

Wow, you've got some serious issues.
CvilleGordo wrote:
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In fact i have been wide awake for the past 9 years; and I never saw our President apologize for America,...
I never saw our President (this one or the last one) "apologize for America" either. I have seen President Obama attempt to correct some of the disastrous foreign policy moves of the previous eight years though.
CvilleGordo wrote:
<quoted text>
...or bow to a foreign leader,...
Are you really that hung-up over a polite bow the guy gave in a receiving line?! If he's guilty of anything, maybe it is being too polite - so shoot him!... No wait.(You sound deranged enough to take me seriously.) Please don't shoot him.
CvilleGordo wrote:
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...or appoint any lunatic to his cabinet.
Hello?!?! Guess you missed the bang-up job Donald Rumsfeld did. How about Alberto Gonzales? If you weren't sleeping, that was one heck of a bathroom break!
CvilleGordo wrote:
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...Barack Hussein...
What's with the emphasis on the middle name? It's only one of the most common names in the world. Go ahead and explain what your problem with it is and confirm your narrow-minded, biggotted world-view once and for all.(It's ok, anyone reading this already knows it about you anyway.)
Discusted

Macomb, MI

#50 Feb 19, 2010
GoUVa wrote:
<quoted text>Discusted, or as I like to say disgusted, Virginia will surely miss your tax money after you leave. Good luck to you and your family wherever you decide to settle next. As a resident of Virginia my entire life, I can only hope that these elected idiots don't raise my taxes to educate someone elses kids. Tax the parents please. You get to claim your kids on your taxes. You get to claim the money you pay for babysitters. Lets remove these tax breaks and then we can talk about funding the schools.
Really? These are the exact people and next adults that will be taking care of you. Right, I have to pay your stupid medicare and SS, hmmmmmmm - that's right, education is worthless....glad someone was kind enough to pay for yours when you were a child in VA.
Concerned Mom

Crozet, VA

#51 Feb 19, 2010
I am so sorry that I voted for you Governor!!! Your campaign focused on children's education! And now you are throwing our eductional system under the bus!!!! My campaign when you are up for reelection will focus on the DEMOCRATIC ticket, as it should be!!! You are doing the exact OPPOSITE of what you promised. A true politicain!!!
Concerned Mom

Crozet, VA

#52 Feb 19, 2010
Disillusioned wrote:
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From what I recall from his first speech as Governor, he is putting an emphasis on trying to market Virginia as a vacation location and to promote our state as a good location for movies to be made and industries to move here. Perhaps he feels that visitors who are driving our interstates as guests don't get a very good impression of our commonwealth when the rest areas are closed.
In addition, there is a huge safety concern for truckdrivers and travelers who need a place to pull off and rest.
We all have our opinions on how to balance the budget, and I may not like 100% of his choices, but I believe he is trying to get us back on track better than Tim Kaine did. At least we have a full time Governor who took a pay cut before even taking office.


AT least Kaine put our children as a priority. McDonnell's children are grown. What does he care!!!! He is NOT who I thought he was and I will campaign for democrats next election!!!
Disillusioned

Charlottesville, VA

#53 Feb 19, 2010
Concerned Mom wrote:
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AT least Kaine put our children as a priority. McDonnell's children are grown. What does he care!!!! He is NOT who I thought he was and I will campaign for democrats next election!!!
Good luck with that.

“Don't Drink The Obama Kool-Aid”

Since: Aug 09

You don't need to know, Va.

#54 Feb 19, 2010
Concerned Mom wrote:
I am so sorry that I voted for you Governor!!! Your campaign focused on children's education! And now you are throwing our eductional system under the bus!!!! My campaign when you are up for reelection will focus on the DEMOCRATIC ticket, as it should be!!! You are doing the exact OPPOSITE of what you promised. A true politicain!!!
You might want to read the following that I posted on another thread before you throw the baby out with the bath water.
Since the partisan bashing has started, it might be useful to look at the budget and the basis for the Governorís proposal. The state is confronting a huge drop in revenue caused by the recession. By law, the legislature must balance the budget. An excellent law I might add. The federal government should enact such a law.
The state needs to cut 2.3 billion to balance the budget. Now letís look at where we spend the money and where we can make cuts. The total budget is $ 37,329,237,761. Of that total, the two biggest line items are education and workforce-$14,924,716,128 or 40% of the budget and health and human resources-$11,215,868,402 or 30% of the budget.
For those who want the legislature to make cuts in their budget, amen brother, letís cut their budget to zero. Their budget is $72,883, 015 or less than 1% of the budget. We arenít going to get to 2.3 billion there.
As for the $3 million spent in re-opening the rest areas, thatís just pocket change in a $37 billion budget. I agree that the rest areas should not have been re-opened unless we leased them to private business so they could pay their own way, but apparently this is a no-no as far as the federal government is concerned.
Bit**ing about this $3 million and the amount spent on the legislature might make us feel good, but at the end of the day these amounts are insignificant in a $37 billion budget.
Some are saying raise taxes.(Typically those who depend on the government for their job or rely on the government for their free ride) This is a sure fire way to make the recession and the deficit even worse. Taxation diminishes peopleís disposable income and therefore their buying power. If people arenít buying, jobs are not being created. No job creation, no new taxes for the state.

The only way to bridge this deficit is to cut the two things that comprise 70% of the budget, education and workforce and health and human resources. This is a reality whether you are a Republican, Democrat, or Independent.
CvilleGordo

Charlottesville, VA

#55 Feb 19, 2010
Chuck Bartowski wrote:
Mr.(or Ms.) Memory-Challenged Wingnut,
Wow, you've got some serious issues.
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I never saw our President (this one or the last one) "apologize for America" either. I have seen President Obama attempt to correct some of the disastrous foreign policy moves of the previous eight years though.
<quoted text>
Are you really that hung-up over a polite bow the guy gave in a receiving line?! If he's guilty of anything, maybe it is being too polite - so shoot him!... No wait.(You sound deranged enough to take me seriously.) Please don't shoot him.
<quoted text>
Hello?!?! Guess you missed the bang-up job Donald Rumsfeld did. How about Alberto Gonzales? If you weren't sleeping, that was one heck of a bathroom break!
<quoted text>
What's with the emphasis on the middle name? It's only one of the most common names in the world. Go ahead and explain what your problem with it is and confirm your narrow-minded, biggotted world-view once and for all.(It's ok, anyone reading this already knows it about you anyway.)
(a) I guess you haven't been watching any news coverage of Barack hussein's apology tours around the world.
(b) MULTIPLE "polite bows" in fact, which incidentally were unprecedented for a US head of state;
(c) NOTHING compares to the assortment of whackos that Barack Hussein has appointed to his cabinet and assorted Tsar posts;
(d) Agreed, very common; if you are a terrorist.
CvilleGordo

Charlottesville, VA

#56 Feb 19, 2010
are you kidding wrote:
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Cville Gordo, by calling him Barrack Hussein, you make we conservatives that actually have brains look bad. You don't have to like him, but using his middle name in a poorly-masked racist manner simply makes every stereotype about republicans seem true.
I'm no Obama fan, but the idiot that preceded him was not in any way, shape, or form a conservative. The federal government grew more during his leadership than it did during Clinton's.
It's his name; like "Jim Bob" or "Eddie Lee" or "Billy Joe" - I think it has a nice ring to it. And what makes you think I am a Republican? Maybe I just like to bait liberals.
Chuck Bartowski

Loretto, PA

#57 Feb 19, 2010
Im Ya Huckleberry wrote:
<quoted text> You might want to read the following that I posted on another thread before you throw the baby out with the bath water...
...The only way to bridge this deficit is to cut the two things that comprise 70% of the budget, education and workforce and health and human resources. This is a reality whether you are a Republican, Democrat, or Independent.
I think people object more to the new Governor's obvious priorities than the numbers involved (i.e... Let's give money to Charter Schools but take it away from Public Schools).

Of course cuts are necessary. And they have to come from the areas you mentioned (among others). But a modest tax increase (given the circumstances) ALONG WITH the cuts would have been perfectly justifiable. Such an approach would have spread the pain around and it certainly would not have hurt spending power any worse than the massive layoffs that will result from McDonnell's cuts. Governor Kaine proposed just such a common-sense budget, but McDonnell threw it out, baby and all.
Chuck Bartowski

Loretto, PA

#58 Feb 19, 2010
CvilleGordo wrote:
<quoted text>
(a) I guess you haven't been watching any news coverage of Barack hussein's apology tours around the world.
(b) MULTIPLE "polite bows" in fact, which incidentally were unprecedented for a US head of state;
(c) NOTHING compares to the assortment of whackos that Barack Hussein has appointed to his cabinet and assorted Tsar posts;
(d) Agreed, very common; if you are a terrorist.
Gordy,

Remember that bit earlier about you being a narrow-minded, biggoted wingnut? Thanks for confirming for everyone.

Can you hear me laughing at you (over the voices in your head)?
Parent

Crozet, VA

#59 Feb 19, 2010
I fear we did not spend enough money to educate some of the community members who are posting on this board, as evident in their posts that only parents should pay for their children to be educated. Who paid for your education and who will be taking care of you when you retire, get sick, or need your car repaired? The children in school today will be making the decisions and running the country in your future. It is an investment well worth the benefits to ALL our futures. Would you prefer we turn out poorly educated students who will then be unable to be productive in society or drain resources further by being on welfare?
It costs the state much more to house a prisoner than it does to educate a child yet students with no degree or who are poorly educated are much more likely to end up in prison than other children.
I am lucky that I have the education and resources to make sure the cuts won't affect my children, but a quarter of our families in Albemarle do not.
CvilleGordo

Charlottesville, VA

#60 Feb 19, 2010
Chuck Bartowski wrote:
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Gordy,
Remember that bit earlier about you being a narrow-minded, biggoted wingnut? Thanks for confirming for everyone.
Can you hear me laughing at you (over the voices in your head)?
No, I can't - but I can hear you quivering in your soy-milk latte over the reality of Barack Hussein being a one hit wonder.
Chuck Bartowski

Loretto, PA

#61 Feb 19, 2010
CvilleGordo wrote:
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No, I can't - but I can hear you quivering in your soy-milk latte over the reality of Barack Hussein being a one hit wonder.
Good one Lee Harvey. I've actually never had soy-milk, and don't care much for lattes. Three years from now is a long time to be making predictions - guess we'll have to just wait and see whether your girl Sarah gets the nomination and makes it easy on the Dems. You better hope this economy doesn't keep improving. How sad for you to have to root against the economic well-being of your own countrymen.

And no, that's not more voices in your head. It's my co-workers laughing at your pitiful nonsense now.
CvilleGordo

Charlottesville, VA

#62 Feb 19, 2010
Chuck Bartowski wrote:
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Good one Lee Harvey. I've actually never had soy-milk, and don't care much for lattes. Three years from now is a long time to be making predictions - guess we'll have to just wait and see whether your girl Sarah gets the nomination and makes it easy on the Dems. You better hope this economy doesn't keep improving. How sad for you to have to root against the economic well-being of your own countrymen.
And no, that's not more voices in your head. It's my co-workers laughing at your pitiful nonsense now.
Strange comments. What exactly has convinced you that the economy is improving, do you have actual facts to support that opinion, or are you parroting liberal talking points in the state-run media? I'm not saying that it's not improving in any way, clearly some things are looking up, I'm just curious what you are basing YOUR claim on. And in what way do you think that I am rooting against the economic well being of my countrymen? The best way anyone can support the economic well being of their countrymen right now is to support throwing Barack Hussein out of office; although clearly he doesn't need a lot of help doing that. And where in any of my posts did I say that I was a Palin supporter? I must have missed that.
NorthernSouthern

AOL

#63 Feb 19, 2010
Judging by these "comments" there ought to be a general election held to determine if a combination of funding cuts (they are not avoidable) AND a small sales tax increase would not be a more prudent way to deal with the shortfall. McDonnell is an ideologue, who like the republicans in the House of Delegates, is too rigid to govern a complex revenue shortfall event. A combination of cuts and a small tax increase would make more sense, and allow our economy to recover without permanently damaging our education system, and putting the public at risk due to cuts to LE and Mental health treatment.
Chuck Bartowski

Loretto, PA

#64 Feb 19, 2010
CvilleGordo wrote:
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Strange comments. What exactly has convinced you that the economy is improving, do you have actual facts to support that opinion, or are you parroting liberal talking points in the state-run media? I'm not saying that it's not improving in any way, clearly some things are looking up, I'm just curious what you are basing YOUR claim on.
Relax Mark David Chapman,
For a guy so obsessed with "liberal talking points," you sure do spout a lot of "conservative talking points." Try listening to something other than Fox once in awhile. If you're afraid of being "contaminated" by network televison, try CNN or the BBC.

Things ARE slowly picking up in the economy. The pace of layoffs has slowed (it has not turned around yet, but it has slowed - which is a good sign). The stock market is behaving more rationally in recent weeks. I'd say we've moved away from the precipice.
CvilleGordo wrote:
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And in what way do you think that I am rooting against the economic well being of my countrymen? The best way anyone can support the economic well being of their countrymen right now is to support throwing Barack Hussein out of office;
Certainly an astute political observer such as yourself (ahem) is aware of the conventional wisdom that says that Presidential elections turn on the economy. It would seem to me that most of the criticism currently being levelled at the President is the result of a sour economic climate. Improve that climate, and it's suddenly "Morning in America" (to borrow from Ronald Reagan). Ergo, if you want to see Barack Hussein Obama "thrown out of office," you'd better pray for a worsening of this recession.
CvilleGordo wrote:
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And where in any of my posts did I say that I was a Palin supporter? I must have missed that.
Why, it was how quickly you rose to defend the former Alaska Governor after my offhand quip about her absurd oil-drilling mantra. Silly teabagger!
CvilleGordo

Charlottesville, VA

#65 Feb 19, 2010
Chuck Bartowski wrote:
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Relax Mark David Chapman,
For a guy so obsessed with "liberal talking points," you sure do spout a lot of "conservative talking points." Try listening to something other than Fox once in awhile. If you're afraid of being "contaminated" by network televison, try CNN or the BBC.
Things ARE slowly picking up in the economy. The pace of layoffs has slowed (it has not turned around yet, but it has slowed - which is a good sign). The stock market is behaving more rationally in recent weeks. I'd say we've moved away from the precipice.
<quoted text>
Certainly an astute political observer such as yourself (ahem) is aware of the conventional wisdom that says that Presidential elections turn on the economy. It would seem to me that most of the criticism currently being levelled at the President is the result of a sour economic climate. Improve that climate, and it's suddenly "Morning in America" (to borrow from Ronald Reagan). Ergo, if you want to see Barack Hussein Obama "thrown out of office," you'd better pray for a worsening of this recession.
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Why, it was how quickly you rose to defend the former Alaska Governor after my offhand quip about her absurd oil-drilling mantra. Silly teabagger!
Most of the criticism being leveled at BHO is the result of an incompetent bumbler in the White House actually. What's it going to take for you to admit that he was a massive mistake for this country?
Chuck Bartowski

Charlottesville, VA

#66 Feb 19, 2010
CvilleGordo wrote:
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Most of the criticism being leveled at BHO is the result of an incompetent bumbler in the White House actually. What's it going to take for you to admit that he was a massive mistake for this country?
Ha ha ha ha!!!(Freudian slip perhaps?) Well yes, Obama is taking quite a bit of heat as a result of an incompetent bumbler in the White House - George W. Bush. And yes, Bush was a massive mistake for this country.

You're precious! Just keep serving em up, and I'll keep knocking em outta the park!

“Don't Drink The Obama Kool-Aid”

Since: Aug 09

You don't need to know, Va.

#68 Feb 20, 2010
Chuck Bartowski wrote:
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I think people object more to the new Governor's obvious priorities than the numbers involved (i.e... Let's give money to Charter Schools but take it away from Public Schools).
Of course cuts are necessary. And they have to come from the areas you mentioned (among others). But a modest tax increase (given the circumstances) ALONG WITH the cuts would have been perfectly justifiable. Such an approach would have spread the pain around and it certainly would not have hurt spending power any worse than the massive layoffs that will result from McDonnell's cuts. Governor Kaine proposed just such a common-sense budget, but McDonnell threw it out, baby and all.
Chuck, the only people on this forum that have voiced an opinion as to the Governorís plan to fund more charter schools have identified themselves as teachers or retired teachers. Why do you think this is? It is not a funding issue as it costs essentially the same to provide the student an education whether he is enrolled in a conventional school or a charter school. Could it be they are afraid of the competition charter schools bring to the table? Are they afraid that charter schools will succeed where they have failed with at-risk students?.
Secondly, as for modest tax increases, that would seem to be the solution IF you believed education was underfunded. Since the cost per student has doubled since 1970 (2007 constant dollars) without a concurrent rise in educational achievement, that dog just donít hunt.
The United States spends more per student than 99% of the worldís countries, once again without the concurrent achievement. I just hate seeing our jobs going to those students from the rest of the world because we donít insist that we get our moneyís worth from education.
If the educational community really had the best interests of students at heart, they would be advocating a tax CUT to stimulate the economy so that the huge deficits this country has piled up can be paid off. Instead we continue to mortgage their future by increasing taxes.

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