Board hears state budget update

Board hears state budget update

There are 102 comments on the ThisWeek Community Newspapers story from May 11, 2011, titled Board hears state budget update. In it, ThisWeek Community Newspapers reports that:

The South-Western school board on May 9 received an update on the governor's proposed two-year budget.

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hey

Columbus, OH

#1 May 11, 2011
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George

Columbus, OH

#2 May 11, 2011
Maybe they can get Jill Billman to crawl out of whatever hole she is currently living in and ram another property tax increase down our throats to pay for it.
Union crybabies

Columbus, OH

#3 May 12, 2011
George wrote:
Maybe they can get Jill Billman to crawl out of whatever hole she is currently living in and ram another property tax increase down our throats to pay for it.
...to add, that little bottom feeder, JBR, now works as a campaign consultant for Burges and Burges Strategists. Burges and Burges was the firm that was hired to consult on the last school levy campaign in November, 2009...
http://www.burgesandburges.com/contentpage.as...
Moving on

Groveport, OH

#4 May 12, 2011
Oh my goodness! Jill Billman-Royer has a job! And it is using the skills where she has had success!
I wish you folks would get off of this. We all know that it was a heated campaign and you all think that the students were held hostage. It is a common practice (distasteful but common)to do what they did and the district knows that they will not be successful with that tactic again. I also know that you will never forgive what you see as inexcusable tactics. But this continual crying over what is in the past only shows that you have no capacity to move on. Please...let's deal with the difficult questions that face us NOW, not what has already taken place.
Union crybabies

Columbus, OH

#5 May 12, 2011
Moving on wrote:
Oh my goodness! Jill Billman-Royer has a job! And it is using the skills where she has had success!
I wish you folks would get off of this. We all know that it was a heated campaign and you all think that the students were held hostage. It is a common practice (distasteful but common)to do what they did and the district knows that they will not be successful with that tactic again. I also know that you will never forgive what you see as inexcusable tactics. But this continual crying over what is in the past only shows that you have no capacity to move on. Please...let's deal with the difficult questions that face us NOW, not what has already taken place.
But this continual crying over what is in the past only shows that you have no capacity to move on.
Move on, yourself. All we heard was your side's continual crying over three previous failed levy attempts. You didn't show the capacity to move on, we're not either.
Jill Billman-Royer has a job! And it is using the skills where she has had success
Oh bullsiht. The fourth attempt passed only because the old school board held the students hostage by eliminating fall sports and extra curriculars to force votes. Dr. Wise admitted that some families left the district because of it.
stay conservative

United States

#6 May 12, 2011
Moving on wrote:
Oh my goodness! Jill Billman-Royer has a job! And it is using the skills where she has had success!
I wish you folks would get off of this. We all know that it was a heated campaign and you all think that the students were held hostage. It is a common practice (distasteful but common)to do what they did and the district knows that they will not be successful with that tactic again. I also know that you will never forgive what you see as inexcusable tactics. But this continual crying over what is in the past only shows that you have no capacity to move on. Please...let's deal with the difficult questions that face us NOW, not what has already taken place.
Moveon.org Funny how the little trigger words always end up in the lap of liberals. Famous words for the liberals in education. Let's move on, yea right.
LadyAgentProvoca teur

Columbus, OH

#7 May 13, 2011
Moving on wrote:
Oh my goodness! Jill Billman-Royer has a job! And it is using the skills where she has had success!
I wish you folks would get off of this. We all know that it was a heated campaign and you all think that the students were held hostage. It is a common practice (distasteful but common)to do what they did and the district knows that they will not be successful with that tactic again. I also know that you will never forgive what you see as inexcusable tactics. But this continual crying over what is in the past only shows that you have no capacity to move on. Please...let's deal with the difficult questions that face us NOW, not what has already taken place.
Oh JillJillJill - to forget is the same as inviting it to happen again. At least you know it won't happen here again, as long as any of us who lived through it are alive to vote. But hey, all the way from cross-walk monitor to campaign strategist in a single flick of the the fingers. What are you complaining about?

You're right. We are NOT moving on until ALL of you were part of the first tragedy are still around. At the risk of being accused of senility: to do so is inviting it to happen again.

Get over yourself, honey.
Moving on

Groveport, OH

#8 May 13, 2011
I am glad to see that there will be at least 4 of you all that will carry the banner and be watchful for further crimes against the citizens of this area. Sorry that I used the "move on" phrase. I know how it stirs the emotions.(I am really not involved with Moveon.org .)

UC: Stay vigilant! Make sure that you keep an eye out for any JBR sightings. And remember to put the lanterns in the church tower(1 if by land, 2 if by sea) to alert all of your pals.

LAP: Glad to hear from you again. You are right about a couple of things: to forget is to invite it to happen again and all of that about senility. But you are wrong about who should get over whom. At least I can say that you won't have to worry about 3 votes (my family) the next time. We'll be watching from afar.
Disconnect

Columbus, OH

#9 May 13, 2011
I agree with Terry Jones regarding SB 5.

If budget cuts or tough economic times are forthcoming, then administrators need flexibility to handle the situation.

What is hardly discussed, SB 5 does not mandate the hammering of any union group. For example, do you really think our police force or firefighters in GC need hammered or will get hammered? They are excellent groups and we always rightfully support their organizations when asked to do so.

The union belief that the sky will fall with SB 5 is not supported by the 180 years we had no collective bargaining in Ohio, namely 1803 to 1983. And collective bargaining was a political porkchop to unions from the Democrats in 1983, not set in place out of need because the sky was falling.

The only thing falling was union membership in the private sector, so the unions looked toward the public sector for membership and strength, so it is difficult to buy the fear argument against SB 5.

I wish SWCS the best in a difficult budget, not union, time.
Union crybabies

Columbus, OH

#10 May 13, 2011
Moving on wrote:
I am glad to see that there will be at least 4 of you all that will carry the banner and be watchful for further crimes against the citizens of this area. Sorry that I used the "move on" phrase. I know how it stirs the emotions.(I am really not involved with Moveon.org .)
UC: Stay vigilant! Make sure that you keep an eye out for any JBR sightings. And remember to put the lanterns in the church tower(1 if by land, 2 if by sea) to alert all of your pals.
LAP: Glad to hear from you again. You are right about a couple of things: to forget is to invite it to happen again and all of that about senility. But you are wrong about who should get over whom. At least I can say that you won't have to worry about 3 votes (my family) the next time. We'll be watching from afar.
Make sure that you keep an eye out for any JBR sightings.And remember to put the lanterns in the church tower(1 if by land, 2 if by sea) to alert all of your pals.
How many lanterns do we put in the church tower, if by air? We saw JBR flying her broom last Halloween.
LadyAgentProvoca teur

Columbus, OH

#11 May 13, 2011
Disconnect wrote:
I agree with Terry Jones regarding SB 5.
If budget cuts or tough economic times are forthcoming, then administrators need flexibility to handle the situation.
What is hardly discussed, SB 5 does not mandate the hammering of any union group. For example, do you really think our police force or firefighters in GC need hammered or will get hammered? They are excellent groups and we always rightfully support their organizations when asked to do so.
The union belief that the sky will fall with SB 5 is not supported by the 180 years we had no collective bargaining in Ohio, namely 1803 to 1983. And collective bargaining was a political porkchop to unions from the Democrats in 1983, not set in place out of need because the sky was falling.
The only thing falling was union membership in the private sector, so the unions looked toward the public sector for membership and strength, so it is difficult to buy the fear argument against SB 5.
I wish SWCS the best in a difficult budget, not union, time.
Religiously, I will continue to vote for police, fire and library levies no matter how stirred up they get over this mess, or the unfortunate things they're saying about private sector tax payers. Prison gaurds should be exempt, too. But then, none of these have given me pause to question their dedication to public service WHILE they risk their lives to offer us that protection.

Now that public sector unions are going down, which industry is next? Whatcha wanna bet banking is the next to fall. Not much hope for real estate agents or energy industry gas station owners to organize against themseles. Hard to get masses of independent people other than entertainers to pay union dues. But banks, whose workers barely edge out over minimum while the fat cats at the top skim the profits...

Oops.
conservative

Pickerington, OH

#12 May 14, 2011
It's all about the money for education. No one with one ounce of civility would use children for financial gain. Those that make this mistake need to be held accountable. There is enough money within this district to educate these students. The current system does not set children up for success. 50% of these young people heading off to college need remediation. That is failure by any definition. I urge conservatives to take a hard look at the educational system. The liberals think they own it and they do.
LadyAgentProvoca teur

Columbus, OH

#13 May 14, 2011
conservative wrote:
It's all about the money for education. No one with one ounce of civility would use children for financial gain. Those that make this mistake need to be held accountable. There is enough money within this district to educate these students. The current system does not set children up for success. 50% of these young people heading off to college need remediation. That is failure by any definition. I urge conservatives to take a hard look at the educational system. The liberals think they own it and they do.
Did you ever hear of anyone accusing a union, of any kind, of civility? Check our Rules for Radicals. The end justifies the means. Throw those kids under the bus, over the cliff and tie them to the track, if you have to, but nothing matters but the money that can be culled from parents frightened for their kids future.

Our parents let it happen because they were educated pre-union and believed in public education as an American institution. Those of us were still in school when the transition occured have the comparison to make and we KNOW the union-run system sucks. I made it all the way to highschool, and some of those teachers straight out of college with the union behind them were nothing but scumbags while with the older teachers...you either got it or you stayed after until you did. And they stayed right there with you with your Mom's phone number on that piece of paper in one hand and a pointer in the other.

I remember a kid lit a cigarette in class, and Teach grabbed it out of his mouth and stubbed it out in his hand. And then she sent him to the principal and told him to call his mommy to tell her what a screw-up he was. LOL.
George

Columbus, OH

#14 May 15, 2011
Union crybabies wrote:
<quoted text><quoted text>Move on, yourself. All we heard was your side's continual crying over three previous failed levy attempts. You didn't show the capacity to move on, we're not either.
<quoted text> Oh bullsiht. The fourth attempt passed only because the old school board held the students hostage by eliminating fall sports and extra curriculars to force votes. Dr. Wise admitted that some families left the district because of it.
You are right. Billman and that school board think they are brilliant because that levy passed on the fourth attempt. That's pure BS. It passed because of blackmail not because of anything Billman did. But it took actually getting rid of sports for it to finally get passed. The blackmail threat is running out of energy. Billman thinks she's brilliant but she is just a low-class thug.
PostScript

Columbus, OH

#15 May 16, 2011
Won't it be interesting to see what they come up with next time. Cutting sports and bussing won't do it twice. Lost too much enrollment. I believe they're actually going to have to slash admin and send them packing this time.

Even in this little corner of the Metro, we won't be bullied. I'm sure that has the likes of JBR against the wall. The fact that we won't just dry up and blow away on it surely has them spooked. When Wise comes out and publicly admits it's caused problems...

So un-alinsky-like.

That's showing desperation. That mea-culpa was nothing more than resetting the pins for the next election.

But that extortion was our Alamo.'Remember the campaign of 2009!'
Union crybabies

Columbus, OH

#16 May 16, 2011
George wrote:
<quoted text>
You are right. Billman and that school board think they are brilliant because that levy passed on the fourth attempt. That's pure BS. It passed because of blackmail not because of anything Billman did. But it took actually getting rid of sports for it to finally get passed. The blackmail threat is running out of energy. Billman thinks she's brilliant but she is just a low-class thug.
The blackmail threat is running out of energy.
I can tell you, that after speaking with a district administrator, the tactic that they will use to extort votes for the next levy is to raise the pay to play fees to a rate that will be unaffordable for most South Western families. Basically, it's the same political extortion racket. The only way to stop them from holding our community hostage is to vote out Mindy Garverick and Randy Reisling this November.
Billman ... is just a low-class thug.
She is indeed a low-class thug. During the Issue 2 campaign, it was said that she was seen driving along 665 and pulling up signs opposing the levy and then sticking them in the trunk of her car. I also heard that she became verbally irate with a Prairie Township Trustee when he allowed the SWAT folks to hold a meeting at the townhall during the last levy attempt. Her group had held one there the week prior.Also, there was the green ribbons her campaign tied to public property, which is a violation of the city code. The city took them down, twice.
PostScript

Columbus, OH

#17 May 16, 2011
They should have put her in chains and made her go around and take them down...with police escort.
never forget

Columbus, OH

#18 May 16, 2011
GC Guy

Groveport, OH

#19 May 16, 2011
Union crybabies wrote:
<quoted text><quoted text>I can tell you, that after speaking with a district administrator, the tactic that they will use to extort votes for the next levy is to raise the pay to play fees to a rate that will be unaffordable for most South Western families. Basically, it's the same political extortion racket. The only way to stop them from holding our community hostage is to vote out Mindy Garverick and Randy Reisling this November.
<quoted text> She is indeed a low-class thug. During the Issue 2 campaign, it was said that she was seen driving along 665 and pulling up signs opposing the levy and then sticking them in the trunk of her car. I also heard that she became verbally irate with a Prairie Township Trustee when he allowed the SWAT folks to hold a meeting at the townhall during the last levy attempt. Her group had held one there the week prior.Also, there was the green ribbons her campaign tied to public property, which is a violation of the city code. The city took them down, twice.
Please explain how replacing any BOE member will change what is cut from the budget.

If you were on the BOE, what would you have cut from the budget given the circumstances?

And I suppose you believe all the things you have 'heard' about anyone who does not agree with you.
conservative

United States

#20 May 16, 2011
GC Guy wrote:
<quoted text>
Please explain how replacing any BOE member will change what is cut from the budget.
If you were on the BOE, what would you have cut from the budget given the circumstances?
And I suppose you believe all the things you have 'heard' about anyone who does not agree with you.
400 students leave district x $5732 follows the student =$2,292,800 of lost revenue. We lost more than 400 students. The board members responsible for this need to go. There were other options.

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