Privatization of Oldham County EMS
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Since: Nov 11

Owensboro, KY

#21 Nov 12, 2011
My first question is where were the first responders (fire department)and why weren't they called? Second I only know of one other county that would have that problem, I guess thatís what you get when you have all ALS trucks with no fly cars. However if you had 2 EMT's on the truck with ALS in a response car you could have effectively done 2 person CPR and had a driver thus increasing the chance for a positive outcome.
OC Resident

New Albany, IN

#22 Nov 12, 2011
William, Lagrange Fire doesn't do first response after 6pm and on weekends. South Oldham Fire can't send in one of their firefighters if they are only running with 3.

United States

#23 Nov 12, 2011
Under KY statutes the Ambulance Taxing District does not operate under Fiscal Court. Why is the Board allowing Fiscal Court to play them as puppets?

Just over 3 years ago the Taxing District was operating in the black, making over 3000 runs with little to no employee call ins or overtime. The training center was busy and morale was good. The only thing that could be improved upon was that the policy and procedures be brought up-to-date and put in place. OCEMS was a place where you had more applicants than you could use.

They encountered a bump in the road that their Board Chairman chose to ignore. The county judge appoints the board members. At that time 2 employees led a group to candidate for Judge, Mr. Voegele. He was happy to listen to this group,
saying he would be happy to help the employees, but that was possible only if he was elected. We'll he obviously won, appointed one of those 2 employees, S. Crawford, as Interim Director and gave the other a county position. Then took advantage of the situation and appointed his friend as the Board Treasurer and his friend as a consultant mentioned in previous posts.

I pray that this ends we'll and we don't put all these people, fathers, mothers, single parents, young people just starting their careers in the unemployment line.
Fed up oc resident

Lexington, KY

#24 Nov 13, 2011
Well I certainly hope this site goes to the media. For a medic to be alone in the back of the rig doing compressions and not being able to administer drugs is absurd. Ask the judge since he had made self himself Ems spokesman what he thinks. Then if you want to know if he is telling a bs story you will know because his lips are moving. The so called director with no degree or Ems experience makes 100 k a yr and wants to keep making cuts Stan Clark could not balance a 2$ check book. The judge and his puppets are out of control and need to go. There are certainly capable people at ema to run it and take it back to the top. Come on people enough is enough.

Since: Nov 11

Louisville, KY

#25 Nov 13, 2011
There is an idea, give OCEMS to EMA and let them be the director. EMS runs its self so it wouldn't be too demanding. Then there would be 100k free in the budget.
what a mess

Louisville, KY

#26 Nov 13, 2011
Confused- the board allows themselves to be puppets because Judge Voegel appoints the board, when there was an opening on the board the employees aske the judge to appoint an employee to the board, the judge and Stuart Crawford told the employees in an open meeting at the john Black center that the law doesn't allow that. That is total BS all the fire department taxing district boards have 2 employees or members on their boards. William an even better idea is let one of the very capable employees be the director, there are numerous people there with years of EMS and Fire experience.

Lexington, KY

#27 Nov 13, 2011
OC citizens and taxpayers need to step up and realize what is happening to their EMS service. When the judge and the new director put their final plan in motion it will be to late and the service will terminated. The risks they are taking now with the lack of coverage and cutbacks are for NO REASON! Dont let it be the mistake on your friend or family member that brings this issue to the media. The time is NOW!

Columbus, OH

#28 Feb 4, 2012
I feel for the dedicated employees at OCEMS. Nothing like caring for your neighbors with a sick feeling in the bottom of your stomach wondering if your career is gonna get handed to a for profit company. I have known folks at OCEMS for years coming an going. I myself have had to wonder about the future of my employment in EMS. The quality service is there and never went anywhere. The problem is linked to the local governing bodies. Fix the problem and let the EMS workers do there job with pride and without conflict.For profit is an easy fix for the county but a degradation of service that probably will never be restored. Hey maybe they should privatize police, fire, and corrections as well. If your gonna set out under the premise of saving money then you should be far about it. Why single out the employees of EMS. Wake up Oldham county before its too late.
Ambulance Nazi

Madisonville, KY

#29 Feb 6, 2012
Rural Metro just took over Clark County EMS in southern Indiana. Rumor has it that a proposal has been given to do the same in Oldham County starting July 2012. Sounds funny with that being a new fiscal year.

Herndon, VA

#30 Mar 9, 2012
Well, word out of Buckner today has exactly that happening. Loss of benefits, retirement, and jobs for most. Congrats to everyone who voted for Voegele, let's see how he handles being responsible for people losing their lives due to cut-rate emergency medical services.

Buckner, KY

#31 Mar 23, 2012
David Voegele needs to resign and for sure needs to be replaced when his term is up! The Judge Executive shold be above reproach and be an example of excellent leadership. We've already seen FAR too much in the press, on T.V., and what was seen at the last Board Meeting is absolutely the last straw! His comments to the T.V. interview,@ the end of the meeting, showed me that he already has another SUPRISE for our county. Frankly, I'm tired of his suprises, conflicts of interes and all the other non -professional actions coming from his office and
from the Board of Directors. And one more point, why are we citizens paying for an interim EMS Director who has no clue concerning the medical field or running an EMS Service? His compensation, as told by the Chairman of The Board of Directors,
$50.00/hour plus ALL benefits. Wow, can I apply for his position? I don't know how to run the EMS either,but I can stay awake at a meeting where there were over 200 concerned citizens present!
JustWatchinFromA far

Louisville, KY

#32 Apr 7, 2012
I have a question? Is this a case of be careful what you ask for? A small group of EMS employees have been whining and complaining for two years..about their management. Wilder...Crawford...Carmen...d oes not matter wo is in charge...just whining. Belly-ached to wrong person. Whoops! he listened...had other motives...Total chaos. That is what it looks like from afar...Welcome to Channel 25 - broadcasts all this nonsense and plays it over and over and over...Makes the county look really bad when public employees disparage the distinguished dentist who serves on the board and donates his time. Totally unprofesisonal and disrespectful. Maybe outside management can restore order.

Fisherville, KY

#33 Apr 11, 2012
I watched the Board meeting on Channel 25 and at least half of the people who spoke were NOT employees or relatives of employees. All Board Members, by law, can not be compensated for their time. The "distinguished dentist" is not. The other guy works for the County and logs hours on County time for time he spends on OCEMS. The laws don't carry much weight with the judge or the board members. If they did, how could OCEMS operate without a budget for this long? There is too much wrong with the County government and the OCEMS Board. A decent lawyer could really make a name for himself/herself if they took this case. Sadly, there wouldn't be much money to be made, unless the lawyer wanted to own an EMS service.
look around

Indianapolis, IN

#36 Apr 30, 2012
What I find interesting is everyone is screaming that you will receive cut rate service if a private company comes in. I would disagree. Look at other places that seem to do fine with private services or a combination of both taking a share of the 911 pie. For example Las Vegas, New York City, Denver, and so on. What it comes down to from an employee point of view is that they know if a private service comes in the biggest thing that will be taken from them are they TV's and recliners.

United States

#37 May 1, 2012
You know, I might have respectfully disagreed with the initial points you make, as I have copies of protocols for OCEMS and both local private companies. However, your cheap-shot insult you ended with tells me that you are as uneducated as to our jobs as you are ignorant to the entire situation.

"Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove all doubt." - Abraham
Lincoln (1809-1865)
Malibu Ken

Goshen, KY

#38 Aug 2, 2012
Enough of you whining already. Enough of you pigs at the taxpayer trough. You make far too much money to put on latex gloves and haul people to the hospital.

Since: Aug 12

United States

#39 Aug 6, 2012
More agree with Judge Executive Voegle

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