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Nye County woman attacked, killed by wolf hybrids

There are 26 comments on the KVBC-TV Las Vegas story from Oct 5, 2007, titled Nye County woman attacked, killed by wolf hybrids. In it, KVBC-TV Las Vegas reports that:

“The gentlemen who owned these dogs said they've never been aggressive prior to this”

A 73-year-old Nye County woman is dead after her pets turned violent on her. The animals are called wolf hybrids ; they look like Huskies or German Shepherds. via KVBC-TV Las Vegas

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Therese Harke

United States

#1 Oct 6, 2007
I have been raising and breeding wolf hybrids for almost 14 years. The breed itself is not vicious. You are more likely to get bitten by a chiuahuah than a wolf hybrid.
Wolf hybrids are wonderful family pets. I don't know what triggered the attack on that poor woman but I'm sure it was human error, not the nature of the animals that was to blame.
Animals Angels USA M Rose

United States

#2 Oct 7, 2007
From what I understand she wasn't the owner, the son was. The wolf-hybrids weren't neutered and a female in the house was in heat. There is no excuse for these people making money off the backs of these animals. I hope this son of hers is held accountable, for his uncaring, breeding of these animals and lack of care given , just letting them run loose in his yard. Big question, did they even have their rabies shots? odds are not even that much care has been given these animals. These people should go to work and earn a living, not expect the animals to make it for them. Dogs in heat will cause others to even jump through windows to breed. The lack of care given has me very angry. The animals have already had to pay the price for this, how about the man, who lack of responsiblity towards these precious babies, what does he get charged with? Nothing? I am an S.P.C.A. and the lack of care for animals is grossly missing or punishment for their abuse out here. This is an example. Ask about the Big Cat bites and clawing this week. They should all be in proper Sanctuaries, not like some out here. I said proper Sanctuaries.
Caged in the size you would consider too small for a chiuahuah to live in for life. The Breeding of all wolfs, etc is suppose to be monitored, not just to make the big bucks. Its time to stop all of this. Americans and animal lovers need to speak out.
Cooler then you

Pacific Palisades, CA

#3 Oct 7, 2007
You are ignorant to assume that they were not properly taken care, that they didnt have their shots, or that they were just there to make money. You are wrong so get your facts before you open your mouth.
Desie

Los Angeles, CA

#4 Oct 7, 2007
I am the woman who was mauled by the cougar this week in Pahrump. I agree that these animals should be in a proper sanctuary. The problem is no one seems to be able to help. The director/owner of the place I was volunteering is gone over 50% of the time. He did however come back for almost 24 hours the day after I was attacked. He expects my daughter and I to keep working there even though we know it isn't safe. He was suppose to be back today, Sunday Oct. 7 and now has no idea when he will return. So you tell me do we go over and continue to feed them or let them starve? I really don't want to go back.
Animals Angels USA M Rose wrote:
From what I understand she wasn't the owner, the son was. The wolf-hybrids weren't neutered and a female in the house was in heat. There is no excuse for these people making money off the backs of these animals. I hope this son of hers is held accountable, for his uncaring, breeding of these animals and lack of care given , just letting them run loose in his yard. Big question, did they even have their rabies shots? odds are not even that much care has been given these animals. These people should go to work and earn a living, not expect the animals to make it for them. Dogs in heat will cause others to even jump through windows to breed. The lack of care given has me very angry. The animals have already had to pay the price for this, how about the man, who lack of responsiblity towards these precious babies, what does he get charged with? Nothing? I am an S.P.C.A. and the lack of care for animals is grossly missing or punishment for their abuse out here. This is an example. Ask about the Big Cat bites and clawing this week. They should all be in proper Sanctuaries, not like some out here. I said proper Sanctuaries.
Caged in the size you would consider too small for a chiuahuah to live in for life. The Breeding of all wolfs, etc is suppose to be monitored, not just to make the big bucks. Its time to stop all of this. Americans and animal lovers need to speak out.
Bill

Los Angeles, CA

#5 Oct 7, 2007
I am the husband of the woman that was mauled by the Cougar this week. My wife and daughter had been going out there and caring for these animals (2 cougars and a leopard) for quite some time, and had the utmost respect for these cats. There is nothinglike recieving a phone call from the dispatcher that you are needed and that is the only information given. To know the inherent danger of the activity, and can only assume the worst has happened. The horrifying sight of the wounds can only be imagined.
One would assume that it was human error, but who really knows? These creatures are wild, dangerous and certainly not pets, and should never be considered as such. They should be regulated, cared for (on a continual basis) and closely inspected. These particular cats are "on their own most of the time.
I know that there is an outcry against regulation of animals (all breeds) in the valley, but whehn does responsibility and public safety outweigh that of the owners. I don't have a problem with responsible people caring for the creatures that can no longer care for themselves. Care taking that is done responsibly with the animals' welfare first. Proper training and regulation etc., has to be question for such rescues and sanctuaries. Gone is the time when Pahrump and Nye county should be a haven for those that do meet requirements elsewhere. Are these cats and other animals (domestic as well) to be left to will of the keepers in absentia?
From FLOCK (remember those cats), the cats my wife was mauled by, the dog that bit the little boy the same night, and the lady that was killed by the wolves, as well as the horses and other domestics that are mistreated, unattended, and mis-willed, someone out there has to be concerned.
Zuzana Kukol

North Las Vegas, NV

#6 Oct 8, 2007
Regarding the cougar attack: that facility is ALREADY regulated by federal agency, USDA, and state of NV wildlife for cougars, which are native wildlife. This is not a public safety issue, the lady who was there was taking care of these cats voluntarily, she was the caretaker, aka, it was occupational hazard and she willingly accepted the job/hobby risk (not sure if she was paid or not).
I am glad she will be OK, but this was not cat running at large, this all happened on the property where the cats are being kept, not to unsuspecting public. Not any different than firefighter being burned in a fire.
More regulations would not prevent this since as I said, it happened in a cage to a person who had a voluntary presence/business/job to do there, not to unsuspecting public on their way to the church.
As for the animal welfare issues, since the place is regulated by USDA who enforces animal welfare act, I let them make the decision, it is not my call.
Regarding the wolf attack, we donít have all the details, but it seems the lady just moved there to be with her sons, where canines didnít know her, were not fixed, there was a femal in heat in the hosue, any animal (even humans) in that situation might be unpredictable and tragedy happens.
For info on responsible exotic animal ownership, see www.rexano.org

“Big Cat Rescue”

Since: Jan 07

Tampa

#7 Oct 8, 2007
Anyone who is licensed by USDA knows that they cannot possibly insure that the animal welfare standards, minimal as they are, will be adhered to. They are understaffed and over whelmed and the worst cases of animal abuse almost always happen at USDA/State inspected facilities. I would like for the woman who was injured to contact me at MakeADifference at BigCatRescue dot org

The following is a partial listing (653) of incidents in the U.S. involving captive exotic cats since 1990. The U.S. incidents have resulted in the deaths of 19 humans, 15 adults and 4 children, the additional mauling of 171 more adults and children, 134 escapes, the killing of 79 big cats, and 105 confiscations. There have also been 147 big cat incidents outsite the U.S. that have resulted in the deaths of 56 humans and the mauling of 84 humans by captive big cats. These figures only represent the headlines that Big Cat Rescue has been able to track. Because there is no reporting agency that keeps such records the actual numbers are certainly much higher. http://www.bigcatrescue.org/big_cat_news.htm

To see a video of the mauling of a zoo keeper in 2006 go to http://www.bigcatrescue.org/animal_contact.ht...

The Journal of Internal Medicine in 2006 estimated that 50 million people worldwide have been infected with zoonotic diseases since 2000 and as many as 78,000 have died. Read more about zoonotic diseases here: http://www.bigcatrescue.org/zoonosis.htm

To see the number of exotic cats abandoned each year go to http://www.bigcatrescue.org/animal_abuse.htm

To view a trend chart that shows the alarming escalation of big cat incidents here: http://www.bigcatrescue.org/Flash/BigCatBans/...

The U.S. represents less than 5% of the entire global population, but up through 2006 79% of ALL captive cat incidents occurred in the U.S.(Now that the US is clamping down on the exotic pet trade, the reports in 2007 show a decline in U.S. incidents compared to the rest of the world) Likewise, Florida represents less than 6% of the U.S. population while 11% of all U.S. incidents occur in Florida. Florida boasts the most comprehensive sets of regulations allowing private ownership of exotic cats while ranking #1 in the highest numbers of big cat killings, maulings and escapes. To view photos of fatal injuries from cases reported in the American Journal of Forensic Medicine click http://www.bigcatrescue.org/laws/AMJForensicF...

This video shows facilities that are currently licensed and approved by the USDA and the Florida Wildlife Conservation Commission that have been operating at this level or worse for more than 10 years and yet are still open to the public. These images are typical of those who allow cameras in but there are many worse ones who do not. This shows precisely why we need to ban private possession of exotic cats. http://www.veoh.com/videos/v2570412PGPYhmr
Zuzana Kukol

North Las Vegas, NV

#8 Oct 8, 2007
To find the truth about Carole Baskin:
http://rexano.org/bcr.htm

Exotic animal attacks FACTS:
http://www.rexano.org//Statistics/NumberOddsD...
http://www.rexano.org//BigCatFrame.htm
18 people were fatally mauled by big cats in the last 17 years ( between 1990 and 2007), which is one death per year (1.05)

. None of these deaths were the result of the exotic cats at large. Instead, all victims were voluntarily on the property where the animal was kept, be it owner(s), handlers, employees, friends or visitors wanting to see the animals.

Cases breakdown:
-three fatalities at AZA zoos (2 keepers, 1 suicidal woman claiming into lions' cage)
-one teenager voluntarily posing for pictures, famous Haley's act (where were the parents?)
-three kids, younger than teens, killed by family/relative's big cat (again, parent's responsibility)
-two fatalities, adults, cats belonged to their close friend or family member
-NINE were owners/trainers/handlers/emplo yees/circus performers
TOTAL:
18 dead, 11 of them were occupational/hobby hazard,(2 AZA zoo workers and 9 trainers/owners).
(AZA is a private accrediting groups always exempted from bans).

The odds of being killed by a captive big cat is extremely low. With the current US population being almost 302,000,000 with one death occurring every 13-14 seconds, this translates to approximately 2,440,000 total US deaths per year. With this in mind, the alleged threat of big cats posing a public safety issue seems ridiculous with the yearly odds of being killed by a captive big cat being one in 302,000,000 equaling to one fatal mauling per year.
You have a better chance of winning the lottery Jackpot (1 in 13,983,816, all six winning numbers selected) or even the elusive Mega Millions Lottery jackpot (1 in 175,711,536), than being killed by a captive large cat (1 in 302,000,000). But you must visit someone with a large cat to get those odds. Nobody ever died as a result of captive exotic cat running loose.
Animal Rights groups claim to want more regulation and/or banning ownership of big cats in the name of public safety. The odds just donít add up.
More people have died from a runaway NASCAR vehicle than a runaway (escaped) big cat. Shouldnít we ban racecars?
According to Fatality Analysis Reporting System (FARS), motor vehicle traffic crashes in 2001 killed 37,862 people, of which 4,901 were pedestrians.
Your lifetime Odds of Dying by a captive big cats are 1-in-4,000,000.
Tobybones

Russellville, AR

#9 Oct 8, 2007
waiting for people to go off on these now, like you do pitbulls!
Baskin Robbins

AOL

#10 Oct 9, 2007
Nothing Carole Baskin says can be believed. Watch her caught in her own lies in this TV investigative report.
Therese Harke

United States

#11 Oct 9, 2007
I understand your anger but you should really get your facts straight before you go spouting off at the mouth! First, anyone who eats meat, owns a farm, or has a pet store uses animals for their benefit. Animals are below us on the food chain and humans have been utilizing their attributes since the beginning of time. Second, you asked if the wolf hybrids had been given rabies shots and said that not even that amount of care was afforded these animals. There is NO rabies vacine currently listed for use in wolf hybrids. If a person is bitten by a "vacinated" hybrid the animal is still considered non-vacinated. I have been raising and breeding wolf hybrids for almost 14 years and I've NEVER had a problem. I'm sure that the attack was due to human error,not the nature of the beast. People like you who try to make every breeder out to be abusive and negligent are no better than the hypocrites who scream Prohibition with a glass of whiskey in their hand. Do you own pets? Why don't you turn them all loose in the wild like God intended? Do you enjoy a good steak? Shame on you for exploiting these poor precious babies! Get your facts straight and don't put every breeder in the same catagory.
Animals Angels USA M Rose wrote:
From what I understand she wasn't the owner, the son was. The wolf-hybrids weren't neutered and a female in the house was in heat. There is no excuse for these people making money off the backs of these animals. I hope this son of hers is held accountable, for his uncaring, breeding of these animals and lack of care given , just letting them run loose in his yard. Big question, did they even have their rabies shots? odds are not even that much care has been given these animals. These people should go to work and earn a living, not expect the animals to make it for them. Dogs in heat will cause others to even jump through windows to breed. The lack of care given has me very angry. The animals have already had to pay the price for this, how about the man, who lack of responsiblity towards these precious babies, what does he get charged with? Nothing? I am an S.P.C.A. and the lack of care for animals is grossly missing or punishment for their abuse out here. This is an example. Ask about the Big Cat bites and clawing this week. They should all be in proper Sanctuaries, not like some out here. I said proper Sanctuaries.
Caged in the size you would consider too small for a chiuahuah to live in for life. The Breeding of all wolfs, etc is suppose to be monitored, not just to make the big bucks. Its time to stop all of this. Americans and animal lovers need to speak out.
wolfdogged

United States

#12 Oct 10, 2007
Channel 13 on the subject of wolfdogs as a result of the death of that elderly woman last week in Pahrump.

The news clip is at:

http://www.ktnv.com/Global/story.asp...
Click on the Featured KTNV Video 'Up close with Wolf Dogs'
Cooler then you

Fontana, CA

#13 Oct 12, 2007
So Desie its cool how you steal the spotlight in an article that isnt even about you. Cougars are way different then dogs. Cougars are WELL KNOWN to be wild animals that can attack and you want people to feel bad that you willingly put yourself around this animal and were attacked... im so sorry..... This woman who was attacked by wolf/hybrids who happened to be pets of hers, not to be confused with cougars (giant cats and wild animals). These are domesticated wolves, thats why they are hybrids. Unlike the news article stated she was around them all the time. Obviously she was if she had one in the house with her, and was so willing to go outside when there was no one else home. A freak accident, thats all. Don't ruin these dogs because of this incident, they are good dogs that wild instinct got the best of in time of heat. Hey I could even say my cat is wild because he sprays by the door inside when the outdoor cats get the outside... should I give all domestic cats a bad name now because his wild instinct had him do something distasteful?
wolfdogged

United States

#14 Oct 12, 2007
just candid

AOL

#15 Oct 15, 2007
Therese Harke wrote:
I have been raising and breeding wolf hybrids for almost 14 years. The breed itself is not vicious. You are more likely to get bitten by a chiuahuah than a wolf hybrid.
Wolf hybrids are wonderful family pets. I don't know what triggered the attack on that poor woman but I'm sure it was human error, not the nature of the animals that was to blame.
My daughter has a wolf hybrid and it has been a great pet and is good around her children.Shame on anyone who would try to harm them.It is now 9 years old.
Leigh Ann

Buena Park, CA

#16 Oct 15, 2007
I am going to make a brief comment re: the cougar incident that Desie and Bill described above, appreciating that the main thread here supposed to be the wolf-hybrid issue, but there are some grossly untrue statements that beg to be addressed. I am affiliated with the animal center involved, and know it to be highly attentive to safety issues. The director has ensured that assistants are well trained and aware of what they need to do to prevent unfortunate incidents. The accident involved two assistants who had been doing the animal care work effectively for several months after their initial and thorough training. Unfortunately one of them failed to latch a door, resulting in contact with the animal. No equipment malfunctions were found at immediate inspection by Animal Control or at our facility's review (which I was present for). The assistants could point to no procedural or equipment malfunction either. The implication that the facility is unsafe deflects attention from the human error, places blame unfairly where it does not lie, and serves to incite the community's fears re: these rescued exotic animals. Additionally, the comment that Desie had "no idea" when the owner was to return is also grossly untrue, as I myself spoke personally to the other assistant and updated her as to the return date (which was postponed due to urgently needed medical care out of state).
Given the above, I definitely agree with the comments by Ms. Kukol above that this should not be viewed as a public safety issue, and the public needs to consider that there are myriad emotional, political and financial reasons for incidents like this one to be mis-reported and blown out of proportion. An honest inventory of the events leading up to such unfortunate incidents is one of the most important steps to take in restoring a personal sense of safety for the individuals involved.
Additionally, the "mauling" was actually (by direct observation) two puncture wounds, a bruise and scratches on the arm/back, and that when she was initially evaluated she was given the instruction to "go home and take a shower."
One of the assistants is undertaking a public defamation campaign by harassing other assistants and spreading lies about the staff of the facility, and this appears to be only serving to encourage those whom she contacts to enlist as witnesses against her should any legal proceedings ensue.
Tom

Kansas City, MO

#17 Oct 17, 2007
Just exactly what is wrong with you and people like you, Bill? What makes you the way that you are? Do you work with the cats just so that you can be seen as some kind of "authority"? Why do you express such contempt for other owners?

You and yours are the ones whose time is gone. The more you use these incidents to beat up on human rights, the more people despise you and have contempt for you. People are beginning to realize that such as you are not interested in the welfare of the public or of the cats. They are beginning to realize that your protests about "safety" are your way of getting your hooks into people and exercising a really vicious agenda against people and animals.

Think that's unfair? You are one of a group of people that continually bashes on good people. You say the most vicious things about pet owners and animals. It's time for you to stop.
Bill wrote:
I am the husband of the woman that was mauled by the Cougar this week. My wife and daughter had been going out there and caring for these animals (2 cougars and a leopard) for quite some time, and had the utmost respect for these cats. There is nothinglike recieving a phone call from the dispatcher that you are needed and that is the only information given. To know the inherent danger of the activity, and can only assume the worst has happened. The horrifying sight of the wounds can only be imagined.
One would assume that it was human error, but who really knows? These creatures are wild, dangerous and certainly not pets, and should never be considered as such. They should be regulated, cared for (on a continual basis) and closely inspected. These particular cats are "on their own most of the time.
I know that there is an outcry against regulation of animals (all breeds) in the valley, but whehn does responsibility and public safety outweigh that of the owners. I don't have a problem with responsible people caring for the creatures that can no longer care for themselves. Care taking that is done responsibly with the animals' welfare first. Proper training and regulation etc., has to be question for such rescues and sanctuaries. Gone is the time when Pahrump and Nye county should be a haven for those that do meet requirements elsewhere. Are these cats and other animals (domestic as well) to be left to will of the keepers in absentia?
From FLOCK (remember those cats), the cats my wife was mauled by, the dog that bit the little boy the same night, and the lady that was killed by the wolves, as well as the horses and other domestics that are mistreated, unattended, and mis-willed, someone out there has to be concerned.
Tom

Kansas City, MO

#18 Oct 17, 2007
Did anyone stop to think how pathetic that story looks? "The horrifying sight of the wounds..." Give me a break. Someone got a little boo-boo on her arm and now she wants the whole world to set aside common sense and experience and let his and her panic and bad writing rule the day.

Hey, we are concerned, and this is the real world where we have to deal with real life. What I am concerned about is how all this talk of animal rights excludes the right of the animals to live or to reproduce, and how the people who pretend to care so much about animals demonize them with lame stories about how someone got bit and scratched. How stupid do Mr. and Mrs. Bill think we are?

The fact is that the public is quite safe enough with no regulations, let along bans, and the importance of keeping the diverse species alive, which humans can do in our own homes, far outweighs the almost nonexistent safety problems. Those of us who care do animals, humanity, and the ecosystem far more good by keeping pets than by anything that animal rights has ever proposed. The abuse and the occasional killings are also far less important than the fact that humans keep large and viable populations of animals as pets and as the most effective way that exists to keep their genomes alive. Humans do a better job than nature.

Next time, Bill, try to say something intelligent.
Tom

Kansas City, MO

#19 Oct 18, 2007
And just one more thing, Bill and Desie: We know that you set up the owner of that cougar and that you timed it for this month deliberately. We also know who you are targeting. You are targeting her because she speaks against the animal rights organizations. This is why the animal rights organizations need to be stopped and shut down once and for all. I am one person who will not rest until you are closed down.
George Fedelski

Pahrump, NV

#20 Oct 20, 2007
I am a contractor that has been on the property where these wolf hybrids were in Pahrump.

The fact is the owner could not control them.

The last time I was there the owner used a garden hose and sprayed water at them to contain them in and area where they could not see me.

After I did the repair I told them to call someone else next time as I'm not coming back again.

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