Hannah Overton's troubled past

Nov 19, 2007 Full story: KRISTV.COM Corpus Christi 154

“Her mom never even knew her own dad, so there's really no connection there”

There is still no word on whether Judge Jose Longoria will grant a new trial to convicted murderer Hannah Overton. via KRISTV.COM Corpus Christi

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Openminded

United States

#1 Jan 13, 2008
So what are they going to do with the kids. Considering their "troubled past" maybe we should just look them away before they start killing.

That would be a great idea, if murder was genetic!
Michigan relative

Battle Creek, MI

#2 Mar 21, 2008
Wow! We've got family in Corpus - all of us Christians. I hope we never get pulled over for "speeding"...we might end up accused of murder by this "North Carolina transplanted" prosecutor. Don't these lawyers read about the underhanded actions of their peers and realize it doesn't work - it will come back to bite them.
Viper

Corpus Christi, TX

#3 Mar 23, 2008
No, she's not going to get another trial. There is no reason for another trial. She's a killer. A convicted felon. She did it. She admitted to it. And get this, her psychotic former fellow church members still backing her? Is there not something wrong with that picture? I know I wouldn't come within a 100 yards of that church. Hannah is where she should be. She's being passed around the jail cell block being one woman's bitch after another. Justice for Hannah!
SursumTX

Austin, TX

#4 Aug 16, 2008
Respectfully, Viper, Hannah did not admit to killing Andrew.

There was an early news story based on an affidavit filed by a CPS worker that said Hannah "confessed" to beating Andrew and giving him spices as punishment. Trouble is, that affidavit was false and was PROVEN false in a family court hearing. I have the transcript to prove it.

The individual who filed the affidavit no longer works at CPS. Sadly, here has been no legal action taken against him.

Are you aware that Andrew's physician, Dr. Cortes, contacted Hannah's defense attorney after the trial -- livid because the prosecution had prevented him from taking the stand? It was his opinion that Andrew's death was an accident.

Did you know that Dr. Fernandez, the CC medical examiner, testified that he conducts FAR more autopsies per year than are allowed by the national board for accreditation? A Caller Times article brought attention to how overworked he is back in June, 2007.

Are you aware that one of the jurors has now filed an affidavit stating that the jury instructions were unclear and saying that Hannah should have a new trial?

I don't go to Hannah's church. But I am praying this never happens to me or anyone else I know. Because if wrongful conviction can happen to Hannah, it can happen to anyone.
Seaweed

Saint Louis, MO

#5 Aug 17, 2008
This woman is a dangerous psyco ..... there shouldnt have been any "accident " anywhere close to this. Oh I am sure she didnt mean to actually off him but she needs to be in charge of no children at all ... none . She is as dangerous as a sex offender .
openminded

Lott, TX

#6 Dec 8, 2008
Seaweed - I see you are from the Corpus Christi area. I challenge you to look back at the known facts as if that is what you first learned. Pretend you never heard of some 'confession" (turned out to be bogus) or "cigerette burns" (turned out to be scratched off mosquito bites) & claims that she locked Andrew in his bedroom for days (contridicted by the oldest child in the house) If you look at this with open eyes, you will see there is no reason to beleive she is a "psycho"
openminded

Lott, TX

#7 Dec 8, 2008
And even if you beleive she is responsible for Andrew's death, if she did not intend for Andrew to die, or didn't know that her actions or inactions would result in her death, then she is NOT guilty of capital murder.
Seaweed

Saint Louis, MO

#8 Dec 9, 2008
I didnt hear about any " confession" so I ont know what you are talking about .

This woman is a "child collector" I've seen them at my childrens various activities ,they like the attention.It isnt about liking kids , "Foster" moms who take in WAYYYY too many kids. More than they can handle. Then try to home school, go to some bizarre church,ect,ect , she reminds me of one out here in Flour Bluff in partcular ,, the kids are miserable there too.

With all her birth kids she shouldnt have been allowed to take in any more ,, thats too many and it results in crap like this .

Furthermore ,,if she didnt know that those actions wouldnt result in something terrible happening then she doesnt even need to own a pet much less care for a child... of course she is responsible ... who else is to blame.You??,, me??? the mayor?? the cops?? her church?? all the people here on topix??
openminded

London, TX

#9 Dec 13, 2008
I can perfectly understand why people might believe she is legally responsible for Andrew's death & that she needs to go to jail. But if she didn't know that her actions (or inactions) would result in DEATH (not just 'something terrible') then she is not guilty of capital murder.

If you firmly believe she fed him the salt, then delayed treatement, then that would make her guilty of Felony Injury to a Child, or Manslaughter. NOT capital murder.

But I have doubt she fed Andrew the fatal dose of salt (and his eating disorder creates doubt in my mind) therefore I have a hard time thinking she is guilty of anything more than Criminally Negligent Homicide.
openminded

United States

#10 Dec 14, 2008
Seaweed. I think we are at least somewhat in agreement about the "child collecting."

I think Hannah meant well, but she was in no condition to take in another child. That is one of the reasons Andrew's eating disorder went from occasional & mild, to extreme in the 4 months with the Overtons.
Mom

Ridgeville, SC

#11 Jan 18, 2009
What is relevant about this article is that cults have been involved in several deaths surrounding Hannah's family. Her grandfather gave a poison slurry to his cult followers. Her father founded Hannah's church and was convicted of murdering a young girl. The same church rallied to his side and denied he ever committed a murder. Hannah admitted to the critical care Doctor the night of the murder (before her $700,000 defense team twisted all of the facts around) that she had fed 4 yr old Andrew a slurry of hot pepper seasoning and that he immediatley collapsed (not "flu like symptoms). All the Doctors who treated Andrew agreed that this was acute poisoning (not over time). Symptoms would have immediately manifested. The Doctor who became the defense darling after the trial by saying it was all just an accident had nothing much to do with the case and totally disqualified himself: right before the murder, he wrote a report saying Andrew Burd had no behavioral or mental problems and was perfectly suitable for adoption, he told several people (including Doctors) on the first day of Hannah's capital murder trial that Hannah "ought to fry," he got angry that he was never called to the Stand (because he was only peripherally involved in the case- unlike the true doctors who testified), and he was listed as the # 1 expert witness for the defense prior to Hannah's trial. abc knew all of this but failed to include it in the piece. Hmmm.. wonder why.
MedPro

AOL

#12 Jan 19, 2009
New trial - why? Look at the basic facts. Child was hungry, eating disorder or not, and she purposefully mixed a large amount of cajun seasoning with water and made him drink it. Lab reports - excessive sodium level which was equal to approx. 18 TABLESPOONS of salt. She made the decision to do as she did as a means of punishment for asking for more food with no regard to the outcome. Sounds like premediatation to me. The demeanor of the Overton's and their "church family" serve as a fine example of the value of a childs life. Poor Andrew was nothing more than "income" for their biological family. When they (her and her wonderful husband - not) realized he had problems they would have to work through, he became a burden and thus expendable.She's guilty and has been found as such. I only hope her fellow "convicts" show her the same love and care she provided for Andrew!
none of your business

Ingleside, TX

#13 Jan 19, 2009
Openminded wrote:
So what are they going to do with the kids. Considering their "troubled past" maybe we should just look them away before they start killing.
That would be a great idea, if murder was genetic!
maybe you should keep your stupid commens to yourself, since obviously you dont know anything!
none of your business

Ingleside, TX

#14 Jan 19, 2009
also everyone that is saying hannah is a killer is a no good for nothing just like that lawyer that had split ends and the police officer that didnt know what he was talking about cause he kept stumbling when the reporter asked him questions and also those really fat ugly chicks on tv that were part of the trial had no idea what they were talking about.so unless you truly know the story dont comment cause its really pathetic the way you guys talk. and that goes for you seaweed, who must be smoking weed when you write!
none of your business

Ingleside, TX

#15 Jan 19, 2009
MedPro wrote:
New trial - why? Look at the basic facts. Child was hungry, eating disorder or not, and she purposefully mixed a large amount of cajun seasoning with water and made him drink it. Lab reports - excessive sodium level which was equal to approx. 18 TABLESPOONS of salt. She made the decision to do as she did as a means of punishment for asking for more food with no regard to the outcome. Sounds like premediatation to me. The demeanor of the Overton's and their "church family" serve as a fine example of the value of a childs life. Poor Andrew was nothing more than "income" for their biological family. When they (her and her wonderful husband - not) realized he had problems they would have to work through, he became a burden and thus expendable.She's guilty and has been found as such. I only hope her fellow "convicts" show her the same love and care she provided for Andrew!
maybe you should shut up whoever you are cause the jewish docter on tv said on the dateline interview that andrew had a horrible disorder and intakeed the salt on his own, plus hannah and her husband knew he had big health and brain problems and they still loved and wanted him anyways, so dumbbutt why the heck would they go through all the adoption process if they were going to intenially hurt him. you should know your sorces before you open your trap!
none of your business

Ingleside, TX

#16 Jan 19, 2009
Seaweed wrote:
I didnt hear about any " confession" so I ont know what you are talking about .
This woman is a "child collector" I've seen them at my childrens various activities ,they like the attention.It isnt about liking kids , "Foster" moms who take in WAYYYY too many kids. More than they can handle. Then try to home school, go to some bizarre church,ect,ect , she reminds me of one out here in Flour Bluff in partcular ,, the kids are miserable there too.
With all her birth kids she shouldnt have been allowed to take in any more ,, thats too many and it results in crap like this .
Furthermore ,,if she didnt know that those actions wouldnt result in something terrible happening then she doesnt even need to own a pet much less care for a child... of course she is responsible ... who else is to blame.You??,, me??? the mayor?? the cops?? her church?? all the people here on topix??
maybe you should stop being on crack and sayin things you dont really know about and get your effin facts straight
MedPro

AOL

#17 Jan 19, 2009
I sure hope the kids are somewhere, anywhere else except with a member of Hannah's family. Murder - genetic, no but children are a product of their enviroment. And anyone with an ounce of common sense should realize the Overton family should be the poster child for dysfunctional. Mental health issues however are genetic. Anyone know about the so called "church family" who seem to be so proud of her? Denomination, etc.?
MedPro

AOL

#18 Jan 19, 2009
none of your business wrote:
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maybe you should shut up whoever you are cause the jewish docter on tv said on the dateline interview that andrew had a horrible disorder and intakeed the salt on his own, plus hannah and her husband knew he had big health and brain problems and they still loved and wanted him anyways, so dumbbutt why the heck would they go through all the adoption process if they were going to intenially hurt him. you should know your sorces before you open your trap!
Poor, blind fool. Must be one of Hannah's "church family" or demented family? Evidently we are making valid points to elicite such a reaction from you? My question is if you know SO MUCH about this why were you not a witness for them or were you? Time to take off the "Poor Hannah" blinders and remove the "Free Hannah" bumper sticker and see her for what she is - A CONVICTED MURDERER!
RIP ANDREW

United States

#19 Jan 19, 2009
This poor child's biological mother abused him, then unfortunately he was given to the Overton's.
This case is awful, and I mean for Andrew. I have more to read on this case, but my opinion at this point is this woman is guilty and should remain in prison. She had formal training as some kind of nurse, which in my book, should have told this woman when that little boy started showing distress, HE SHOULD HAVE BEEN TAKEN TO THE ER IMMEDIATELY. Didn't the father state at one time they waited because of the bruising on Andy and were afraid they would lose their other children? I read where they are trying to say now that the little boy ingested all that salt on his own. ARE YOU KIDDING ME? A four year old ingesting at least 18 teaspoons of salt?
Didn't their own children, before everyone had a chance to make up cover stories and "warn" the children about mommy going to jail and getting into trouble, tell that this was an often form of punishment and that Andrew was in trouble all the time? Didn't they say he was forced "too pee and poop" in his own bed? Good grief.
As usual the guilty tend to eventually hide behind religion. I do not believe that GOD thinks what this woman did was ok. If she were punishing children by making them drink cajun spice for ANY REASON, she has no business with children. Her family history is interesting, no does not make her guilty, but sure explains alot, doesn't it?
RIP ANDREW

United States

#20 Jan 19, 2009
Let's not forget that Dennis Rader, the "BTK" killer from Park City, Kansas (Wichita, Ks area) was an elder in his church. If anyone would have asked his fellow church members if he could be BTK, they would have said absolutely not. BUT HE WAS (IS). Personally, I find it apalling when trying to use religion to get off a murder charge or any other.

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