Township joins fight against hockey arena's Neighborhood Improvement Zone

Mar 19, 2012 Full story: WFMZ 29

With no public discussion, Bethlehem Township commissioners unanimously voted Monday night to join their Northampton County neighbor, Hanover Township, in a legal challenge of a state law that allows Allentown to keep some of their tax revenue to pay for its hockey arena complex.

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silly rabbit

Philadelphia, PA

#1 Mar 20, 2012
There will soon be a suit filed against the city and co conspieritors for 158 mil. They can only try to keep this one with home rule for so long and the time is very near.
nuff already

Allentown, PA

#2 Mar 20, 2012
Its about time people just say no to this confiscation of their money. Especially for something like a hockey arena. What make Mayor Puloski think he deserves my money for his pipe dream? The local ski slopes don't take tax money, pocono raceway doesn't take money why should A holetown
A-Town Observer

Allentown, PA

#3 Mar 20, 2012
nuff already wrote:
Its about time people just say no to this confiscation of their money. Especially for something like a hockey arena. What make Mayor Puloski think he deserves my money for his pipe dream? The local ski slopes don't take tax money, pocono raceway doesn't take money why should A holetown
Listen you backwoods idiot, first of all the only people getting taxed for the Arena are the people who work in Allentown. The State is using the earned income tax of everyone that works and does business (govt. also) within a 130 acre area of 7th and Hamilton and along the Waterfront project to pay for bonds that were purchased for improvements in that area. So the only people that are from these municipalities that are suing being taxed is the people who come from outside Allentown to work here withing that 130 acre area of the two projects. Typically the earned income taxes collected within this area would go to the agencies suing.

Ok. So hopefully you people can see it clearer now and notice that this lawsuit is very weak. Committee leaders and Senator Pat Browne (who introduced the tax zone plan) for both projects have been quoting on saying that they are confident that they are operating within the law. In the end this will be noted as being a "feeble" attempt at stopping a small portion of the funding for the Arena. Even without the earned income taxes from people who work within this area, but live in one of these municipalities who are suing, won't halt progress on both projects.

Kenneth H

Allentown, PA

#4 Mar 20, 2012
A-Town Observer wrote:
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Listen you backwoods idiot, first of all the only people getting taxed for the Arena are the people who work in Allentown. The State is using the earned income tax of everyone that works and does business (govt. also) within a 130 acre area of 7th and Hamilton and along the Waterfront project to pay for bonds that were purchased for improvements in that area. So the only people that are from these municipalities that are suing being taxed is the people who come from outside Allentown to work here withing that 130 acre area of the two projects. Typically the earned income taxes collected within this area would go to the agencies suing.
Ok. So hopefully you people can see it clearer now and notice that this lawsuit is very weak. Committee leaders and Senator Pat Browne (who introduced the tax zone plan) for both projects have been quoting on saying that they are confident that they are operating within the law. In the end this will be noted as being a "feeble" attempt at stopping a small portion of the funding for the Arena. Even without the earned income taxes from people who work within this area, but live in one of these municipalities who are suing, won't halt progress on both projects.
So according to YOU we all should just bend over and take it, and trust a guy with not one but TWO DUIs. You should be ashamed of yourself for even posting that. Some of us actually care where our tax dollars are going.
Snooper

Atlanta, GA

#5 Mar 20, 2012
ASD should join!
silly rabbit

Bear, DE

#6 Mar 21, 2012
Palumpa and crew should just go crawl back under the rock they came from under. If this law that was passed under cover late on a friday and is not only for allenclown esq all other boroughs have the right to do the same this = equal eit tax grab for all.
A-Town Observer

Allentown, PA

#7 Mar 21, 2012
Kenneth H wrote:
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So according to YOU we all should just bend over and take it, and trust a guy with not one but TWO DUIs. You should be ashamed of yourself for even posting that. Some of us actually care where our tax dollars are going.
He is still a lawmaker and you need to respect that. If you don't like it, write your congressmen and don't vote for him. Why should I be ashamed for explaining to you who is getting taxed? No. Allentown needs this money more then wherever your from. In future years you could see a tax break for helping out with funding. You lames just want something to bitch about and it is well.........LAME.
Get a life and rednecks.
silly rabbit

Philadelphia, PA

#8 Mar 21, 2012
A-Town Observer wrote:
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He is still a lawmaker and you need to respect that. If you don't like it, write your congressmen and don't vote for him. Why should I be ashamed for explaining to you who is getting taxed? No. Allentown needs this money more then wherever your from. In future years you could see a tax break for helping out with funding. You lames just want something to bitch about and it is well.........LAME.
Get a life and rednecks.
A lawmaker for what or who.
Hawker

Allentown, PA

#9 Mar 22, 2012
Tax break for helping out? For Gods sake man stay away from the crack!
A-Town Observer

Allentown, PA

#10 Mar 23, 2012
Hawker wrote:
Tax break for helping out? For Gods sake man stay away from the crack!
Township shouldn’t be suing Allentown
As a concerned citizen of Hanover Township (Northampton County), I take issue with the hypocrisy of the supervisors I helped elect. They have now voted to sue Allentown and the state for withholding earned income taxes from our residents who work in downtown Allentown — which probably isn’t too many people — saying,“This is our money and they are misappropriating it.”
Do the supervisors care about the fact they are misusing our money to fund a lawsuit that will likely cost us more than the earned income money in question? Their answer is the legal costs will be shared, but by whom?
I can’t image other suburbs supporting this lawsuit when state Sen. Pat Browne has said repeatedly the townships should get all of their tax money back, only nine months later than usual.
It seems to me this new law to help pay for Allentown’s arena and entertainment complex could have been explained to the suburbs better, but no harm, no foul.
Is it really worth spending the Hanover taxpayers’ money on expensive legal fees to make the point we’ve been, at worst, inconvenienced?
PAUL ANTHONY JR.
Hanover Township

They are wasting more of your money on these lawsuits then what the people who work within these areas are being taxed. And yes you would benefit from this project by having your taxes cut in the long run.
A-Town Observer

Allentown, PA

#11 Mar 23, 2012
The last post is a citizen of Beth. Twnshp. who has common sense about where their money is going. This lawsuit is abusing your money...........
Realist

Palm Bay, FL

#13 Apr 3, 2012
Wonder if the mayor and browne expected this type of response to their, shall we say "slightly bent",
legislation!
backsnipsonmania c

Allentown, PA

#14 Apr 4, 2012
The arena will never happen. The puck will never touch the ice in this city.
Krusty

Hazleton, PA

#15 Apr 4, 2012
Hellertown just joined the lawsuit yesterday. It is picking up steam.
silly rabbit

Philadelphia, PA

#16 Apr 4, 2012
Now all the people involved in this scam need to be indicted by the feds and put to prison! Palumpashitsky and crew think they are David Copperfeild with public funds to there freinds and than oops, just another failed pet project. Than we all can not forget the campaign donations payed to play in allentown pa.
KeepGitmoOpen

Allentown, PA

#17 Apr 4, 2012
Hockey arena and fighting who would of thunk..
A-Town Observer

Hellertown, PA

#18 Apr 4, 2012
http://articles.mcall.com/2012-03-26/news/mc-...

Here's another great link to an article I happened to come across. This is rapid revitalization occurring with people already lining up to demolish properties near the Arena and rebuild bigger, better, more modern ones. When ACIDA approves this new building at 645 Hamilton, it will mean there is projects on three of the four corners at 7th and Hamilton. Putting thousands of people to work, generating even more jobs in the future, and resuscitating our city.

The "remake" of Allentown is happening, and there is no way to stop it, just delay it slightly if anything. I remind everyone that Sen. Pat Browne is very confident that his tax zone legislation, passed in 2009, will hold up against any lawsuit in any courtroom. These new projects and the many, many, more that developers will flock here to start, will bring quality of life changes to this city which we have never seen. When Allentown does good...everyone does good, like the Mayor Ed Pawlowski has been quoted as saying.
SICKOFBADPOLITIC IANS

Northampton, PA

#19 Apr 4, 2012
A-Town Observer wrote:
http://articles.mcall.com/2012 -03-26/news/mc-allentown-phant oms-arena-building-20120326_1_ allentown-commercial-arena-pro ject-city-center
Here's another great link to an article I happened to come across. This is rapid revitalization occurring with people already lining up to demolish properties near the Arena and rebuild bigger, better, more modern ones. When ACIDA approves this new building at 645 Hamilton, it will mean there is projects on three of the four corners at 7th and Hamilton. Putting thousands of people to work, generating even more jobs in the future, and resuscitating our city.
The "remake" of Allentown is happening, and there is no way to stop it, just delay it slightly if anything. I remind everyone that Sen. Pat Browne is very confident that his tax zone legislation, passed in 2009, will hold up against any lawsuit in any courtroom. These new projects and the many, many, more that developers will flock here to start, will bring quality of life changes to this city which we have never seen. When Allentown does good...everyone does good, like the Mayor Ed Pawlowski has been quoted as saying.
Pat Browne's a crook with a snotty looking wife who now has a great job thanks to Pat Browne. What a joke.
A-Town Observer

Hellertown, PA

#20 Apr 4, 2012
She is now a lobbyist for the firm pumping tens of millions of dollars into Allentown. Pat and his wife are two very smart people. Smart enough to put this tax zone into place with knowing a lawsuit might occur as a result, but will not hold up in court. I believe the municipalities are suing out of "jealousy" if you will that Allentown has a complete revitalization plan that will not fail. The tax zone legislation was passed in 2009, and we are seing the envy of it being put to use now by these lesser municipalities suing. At the ribbon cutting ceremonies for the Arean, Pat Browne will be there and look at his accomplishments along with mayor Ed Pawlowski. This is a template for other cities, big or small, in America.
SICKOFBADPOLITIC IANS

Northampton, PA

#21 Apr 4, 2012
A-Town Observer wrote:
She is now a lobbyist for the firm pumping tens of millions of dollars into Allentown. Pat and his wife are two very smart people. Smart enough to put this tax zone into place with knowing a lawsuit might occur as a result, but will not hold up in court. I believe the municipalities are suing out of "jealousy" if you will that Allentown has a complete revitalization plan that will not fail. The tax zone legislation was passed in 2009, and we are seing the envy of it being put to use now by these lesser municipalities suing. At the ribbon cutting ceremonies for the Arean, Pat Browne will be there and look at his accomplishments along with mayor Ed Pawlowski. This is a template for other cities, big or small, in America.
Smart enough to pull the wool over alot of people's eyes and if she's so smart, why did she need her husband to get her such a good job. Just what we need, another lobbyist. And if her "firm" is pumping 10's of millions into that hell hole, why do they need money from the outlying smaller communities. The whole thing really smells, just like Aholetown.

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