Clean up welfare - start drug testing...

Clean up welfare - start drug testing rules

There are 79 comments on the www.kystandard.com story from Sep 22, 2008, titled Clean up welfare - start drug testing rules. In it, www.kystandard.com reports that:

In reality, welfare is set up to help children, but it has been so abused and mishandled throughout its existence, taxpayers get upset by the lack of oversight. The knowledge that some welfare recipients use and sell drugs and then hold out their hand for government assistance....

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iworktoo

Alpena, MI

#64 Jul 27, 2010
think about it.......I believe that everyone is talking about ,people that are on welfare, or on ssi You paid your taxes and will earn your ss so if you want to drink it up or use drugs that is your choice, but the welfare money that is going to buy drugs, that needs to stop! and maybe if they were tested, and found to be on drugs, the children should be removed!
weekender

United States

#65 Jul 28, 2010
lets face it people ssi will not be there when it is time for most of us who have busted ass since the age of 16!! just keep electing the demorats lawyers minorities etc.. and it will be a communist country in a very short time... "antisocialist" said it best.. glad to see someone seeing the BIG picture!! maybe that is why we have so many screwing the system for ssi by faking their disabilities!! trouble is they are the ones who have not paid sh^t into it!! real tax brackets are looong gone!!!!
madusa

Alpena, MI

#66 Jul 28, 2010
well said "weekender"
coffee Queen

Alpena, MI

#67 Jul 28, 2010
We do have many screwing the system, but it is also making it hard for the ones that have true disabilities, it takes forever for them to get any help, and some wouldn't need it but they can't get medicaid to see a doctor so they have no choice but to apply. The whole system needs to be redone, so the ones that really need it can get it, and the ones that are screwing the system don't!
Think about it

Hillman, MI

#68 Jul 30, 2010
Ok,I'am on the same page now.I agree we have a big problem.I'am just not sure how the state can afford to drug test everyone.I have seen what drugs do to a family first hand from my family.They have worked but have nothing to show for it.I also have seen my neice's and nephew's follow in their foot step's,it's very sad. Yes I did report them and we haven't spoken in 20 year's but oh well. The thing in reporting someone is you have to know the difference between child abuse and child neglect, not feeding your kid's because your to high is neglect not abuse so when the state goes there and check's it out the caller is wrong and the family get's warned and they move. It falls back on the state for not taking the poor children away they have had a bad life now they live it.Your right we have to do something. Show me the way and I will follow..Sorry kid's are my down fall.
Charger07

West Palm Beach, FL

#69 Jul 30, 2010
I think kids are a lot of people's downfall. No matter what the parents do, the children are always the ones to suffer. I also agree with Coffee Queen that people with true disabilities aren't able to get the help they need. I wouldn't object to a tax that covered drug tests as long as the people that fail them get their benefits revoked immediately. We are paying for them anyway, what's a few more dollars to ensure that maybe someone who really needs help and deserves it, might finally get it?
driod does

Oscoda, MI

#70 Aug 1, 2010
Charger07 wrote:
I think kids are a lot of people's downfall. No matter what the parents do, the children are always the ones to suffer. I also agree with Coffee Queen that people with true disabilities aren't able to get the help they need. I wouldn't object to a tax that covered drug tests as long as the people that fail them get their benefits revoked immediately. We are paying for them anyway, what's a few more dollars to ensure that maybe someone who really needs help and deserves it, might finally get it?
just a few more tax dollars?? i hope you plan on driving an 07 dodge for as long as you live if you keep thinking like that!!! last time i looked the best job at mcdonalds is still poverty level...

Since: Aug 10

Alpena, MI

#71 Aug 3, 2010
I agree 100% with this.. Iím a single mom who has applied for help and I cannot get any because I make too much. I think if they even charged these people $10 and random pull them one for each family starting ages 13 on up if they canít pass it the family donít get help. Something needs to be done. All of us work every day to support this and itís not fair. If they donít get their assistance for that month there is always the soup kitchen to get a meal at for the mo nth here and there.
Charger07

Danville, IN

#72 Aug 3, 2010
driod does wrote:
<quoted text> just a few more tax dollars?? i hope you plan on driving an 07 dodge for as long as you live if you keep thinking like that!!! last time i looked the best job at mcdonalds is still poverty level...
You're assuming I work at McDonald's? Quite the contrary, I make six figures. I don't have to have all the "material" things in the world to be happy and live a full life. I would still be willing to pay a "few more dollars" for drug tests (which, by the way, are around $50.00) to ensure that those that need help, get it, and the "druggies" are cut off and forced to fend for themselves.
By the way, I bought the Charger used, less than 1 yr.old with 7K miles on it for 18k, fully loaded. Quite a sound financial decision, I'd say. Still running like a top, and I paid it off last week. Eat your heart out.
droid does

Oscoda, MI

#73 Aug 3, 2010
sorry if it dont float and run 80mph it dont interest me!!! 27 fever ;) buy a vette if you want a SOUND INVESTMENT..........
droid does

Oscoda, MI

#74 Aug 3, 2010
BTW i never said or assumed you work for a fast food choke and puke.. merely saying that is about the only jobs out there if one is not fourtunate to have a skilled trade or very talented in their field......
Charger07

Cadiz, KY

#75 Aug 4, 2010
I misunderstood - my apologies. I get very passionate about this subject, as my elderly Grandmother has a hard time getting help and she's worked her whole life. She didn't ask anyone to help her and she lived within her means. Now that she needs some assistance (medications, etc.) and can't get it, it infuriates me that so many people utilizing the welfare benefits of Michigan are known drug offenders.
Shark1234 - have you tried getting help for maybe just food? I know of some people who also work and make too much to qualify for monetary benefits, but they qualify for some food benefits. It helps.
Charger07

Cadiz, KY

#76 Aug 4, 2010
By the way - my Grandmother lives in my Michigan house rent free so that she can live out the rest of her life in peace and safety (before anyone asks me "what do YOU do for your Grandmother to help her"?).

Since: Aug 10

Alpena, MI

#77 Aug 5, 2010
Charger07 wrote:
Shark1234 - have you tried getting help for maybe just food? I know of some people who also work and make too much to qualify for monetary benefits, but they qualify for some food benefits. It helps.
well yes i have and cant not get any help and if i did they said it might be like $30 and I just get mad because there are so many people out there living off the system and brag about it. I was at 7 11 one day and i guy was buying beer on his cash assistance card UGHHHH why.. He looked just fine enough to get a job and work for what he needs and here we are working out butts off and get NO Where. Us working people get punished for them. I really think they should have to try to get their stuff and a drug testing is just great thing to do. Im sorry but if the state bougth a bunch of them they would get a cheeper rate for them any way. And if we charged these people the $10 to help pay for the cost they might think twice before takeing the system for all its got. Sorry if i affend anyone but Im just tired of trying to work to get me and my kids someplace in life and get NO Where
greenbrier

Newport, KY

#78 Oct 12, 2010
Not only should they be drug tested for that check, housing and food, they should have to do the jobs that we are currently paying illegals to do. Illegals keep telling the media that they do the stuff no one else wants to do, and they're probably right. But it seems to me that we have a large labor force that we aren't using. Anyone receiving government assistance to raise kids should be forced to get up every morning and head their lazy ass to work. The kids would benefit from watching that, and we could send the illegals home.

Since: Oct 10

Alpena, MI

#79 Oct 15, 2010
One word- UNCONSTITUTIONAL
aunt jamima

Kansas City, KS

#80 Feb 7, 2011
nichole kapella is one.....
concerned

Saint Catharine, KY

#81 Mar 6, 2011
I am glad there is help out there for the truly needy. However, it should be a hand up and not a hand out. If you are blowing the money the government is giving you on booze or drugs you shouldnt remain on the doles. Drug testing should be a hair sample and not a blood test. Also EBT cards should have the recipents picture on it (or multiple cards if different members might use it adn have the card tied to one account) This might stop the "selling" of benefits for beer. " I'll let you use my ebt card for $20.00. I have no problem helping those in need, but not forever and not to enable them to party.

“To contract new debts...”

Since: Apr 08

is not the way to pay old ones

#82 Mar 6, 2011
metronomic wrote:
One word- UNCONSTITUTIONAL
I must have missed the right to do drugs and screw the American who actually work and pay taxes amendment when we studied the constitution back in high school.

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