Clean up welfare - start drug testing...

Clean up welfare - start drug testing rules

There are 79 comments on the www.kystandard.com story from Sep 22, 2008, titled Clean up welfare - start drug testing rules. In it, www.kystandard.com reports that:

In reality, welfare is set up to help children, but it has been so abused and mishandled throughout its existence, taxpayers get upset by the lack of oversight. The knowledge that some welfare recipients use and sell drugs and then hold out their hand for government assistance....

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“SummerBreeze”

Since: Aug 08

Wildcat country

#1 Sep 22, 2008
How many recipients do you figure are actually living like that? I don`t know of any off hand. I`m sure some fit the bill,but is it really that common? You would think HUNT would close them down.These folks would have no money for a legal defense. I would think that court appointed wouldn`t be the way to go.It just seems a tad risky to me with no loot to defend yourself.But I`m sure you are right,it does happen,but to start a new law because of it??????

“To contract new debts...”

Since: Apr 08

is not the way to pay old ones

#2 Sep 23, 2008
If you can afford drugs then you can afford to pay your own rent, very simple.

“SummerBreeze”

Since: Aug 08

Wildcat country

#3 Sep 23, 2008
Hunglo,You are exactly right!
keith

Anderson, SC

#4 Jan 24, 2009
I'm 50 years I see peoplo trade food stamp.For car
and drug.Yes they need to be drug test
toxic_personalit y

Detroit, MI

#5 Feb 11, 2009
keith wrote:
I'm 50 years I see peoplo trade food stamp.For car
and drug.Yes they need to be drug test
Well thats a bit odd because there have not been food stamps for a few years now they use the debit card set up "bridge card" and at 50 years old soon you will be 65 and i think just maybe if they are urine test people for assistance then they should do the same for social security and retirement as well, hell lets just urine drop everyone in the state, then we would stop the dope heads ? peoples kids! lol...
toxic_personalit y

Detroit, MI

#6 Feb 11, 2009
more controls for state is no answer and if you know any accomplished drug addicts you would know that they will manipulate the system one way or another to get there head right, and in the end it would only cost more money and not to mention another law for your local goverment to to twist and use against you in the long run...
spy

Huntsville, TX

#7 Nov 20, 2009
look out francie your welfare will be gone.
reform needed

Alpena, MI

#8 Nov 20, 2009
This is such a loaded topic. Yes, something needs to be done about the system, too many loopholes that people know how to get around to benefit them at the expense of the taxpayers. I hear so many stories about how people get away with things, its not fair to those who truly are in need of assistance. Heck, take my Ex for instance; He gets SSI because he is stupid! literally! I swear to god its the truth! something is wrong with that. I work my butt off as well as my husband and what do we have to show for it? well, we are happy....have a car, bills, etc.....as well as medical bills because we pay for our own insurance..no medicade here. All you will find in our home is honest, hard working AMERICANS, working to get thru life as comfortable as possible. Something that irks me is this: I do work in the public domain, a family will come in, ask if we take the bridge card..well, no Im sorry we dont....oh ok then....then the kid will ask for a simple little sucker or some kind of candy, NO NO, go on, your bugging me says one of the parents to the kid...then they come to the counter and present a 50 or 100 dollar bill to pay for cigarettes! I would just love to say something, but I cant.....so. I apologize if I have offended anyone, that is not my intention.
bathtub mat

Alpena, MI

#9 Nov 20, 2009
first we have to get a new governor....
whoa

United States

#10 Nov 20, 2009
If you do a study on drug abuse, you will see ''poor'' welfare people get blamed. Look at the stats in all 50 states and you will see it really is middle class problem. We hide or smoke screen because we don't want friends and family to know our abuse problem.

drugs including alcohol, diet pills, sexual abuse, etc... the ones who society sees are ''welfare'' people.
keith wrote:
I'm 50 years I see peoplo trade food stamp.For car
and drug.Yes they need to be drug test
whoa

United States

#11 Nov 20, 2009
''Stupid'' people need the help.

Btw, I work at a convienient store in town, I see the same thing with adults not wanting the kids to bug them. Smokes are more important than snacks for kids.
reform needed wrote:
This is such a loaded topic. Yes, something needs to be done about the system, too many loopholes that people know how to get around to benefit them at the expense of the taxpayers. I hear so many stories about how people get away with things, its not fair to those who truly are in need of assistance. Heck, take my Ex for instance; He gets SSI because he is stupid! literally! I swear to god its the truth! something is wrong with that. I work my butt off as well as my husband and what do we have to show for it? well, we are happy....have a car, bills, etc.....as well as medical bills because we pay for our own insurance..no medicade here. All you will find in our home is honest, hard working AMERICANS, working to get thru life as comfortable as possible. Something that irks me is this: I do work in the public domain, a family will come in, ask if we take the bridge card..well, no Im sorry we dont....oh ok then....then the kid will ask for a simple little sucker or some kind of candy, NO NO, go on, your bugging me says one of the parents to the kid...then they come to the counter and present a 50 or 100 dollar bill to pay for cigarettes! I would just love to say something, but I cant.....so. I apologize if I have offended anyone, that is not my intention.
testemall

Buena Vista, CO

#12 Nov 20, 2009
drug test all the politicians and public servants first. then they can get fired and maybe some sober welfare recipients can take their jobs.
Charger07

United States

#13 Nov 21, 2009
toxic_personality wrote:
<quoted text> Well thats a bit odd because there have not been food stamps for a few years now they use the debit card set up "bridge card" and at 50 years old soon you will be 65 and i think just maybe if they are urine test people for assistance then they should do the same for social security and retirement as well, hell lets just urine drop everyone in the state, then we would stop the dope heads ? peoples kids! lol...
I think that anyone taking money (welfare recipients) without working for it should be subjected to random drug testing. I work for a living and am subjected to random testing by my employer. If I'm not mistaking, social security and retirement payments come from those who have worked their whole lives to earn it. They are not given it freely. Of course, I may be wrong, but the point is that welfare recipients do not work for their livings. I wouldn't begrudge anyone an income, but it burns me that "able-bodied" individuals that are just too lazy to get off their behinds are the ones who benefit the most.
Charger07

United States

#14 Nov 21, 2009
Sorry, above post should've read "mistaken"...
FUNNY

Alpena, MI

#15 Nov 21, 2009
I agree with Keith, people can still trade off theyre food stamps, they just give theyre pin #.
The welfare low lifes should get off theyre A%%'s and go to work, and be drug tested!!!and toxic_personality is a dumb ass!
whoa

United States

#16 Nov 22, 2009
They would, but people like you would then say they are terrible workers. Why? You complain about stupid stuff.
FUNNY wrote:
I agree with Keith, people can still trade off theyre food stamps, they just give theyre pin #.
The welfare low lifes should get off theyre A%%'s and go to work, and be drug tested!!!and toxic_personality is a dumb ass!
Good For Him

Alpena, MI

#17 Nov 23, 2009
Hot Rod Max I really hope you do not mean it when you say "I don't know of anyone like that" That is a joke look around Alpena. There are so many people that cry help me but won't help themselves. Or the welfare system keeps giving and giving to people who are more than able to work but WON"T. They seemed to think the system "owes" them. Look in the bars and you I am sure will know someone in there crying in there beer that the welfare system bought about how they can't pay there rent or bills, or find a job that they are not looking for cause the welfare system keeps giving to these drunlin addicts. I work a 40 hour a week job and I feel there is folks out there that really does need help and not to sit on a bar stool or to buy drugs.
red-eye

Alpena, MI

#18 Mar 13, 2010
Good For Him wrote:
Hot Rod Max I really hope you do not mean it when you say "I don't know of anyone like that" That is a joke look around Alpena. There are so many people that cry help me but won't help themselves. Or the welfare system keeps giving and giving to people who are more than able to work but WON"T. They seemed to think the system "owes" them. Look in the bars and you I am sure will know someone in there crying in there beer that the welfare system bought about how they can't pay there rent or bills, or find a job that they are not looking for cause the welfare system keeps giving to these drunlin addicts. I work a 40 hour a week job and I feel there is folks out there that really does need help and not to sit on a bar stool or to buy drugs.
agree 100%, but my question is why do we send billon's in money and manpower to a third-world country when we cant even house and feed are own that really need it?
bathtub mat

Alpena, MI

#19 Mar 14, 2010
Need it? or...expect it as a right.....
red-eye

Alpena, MI

#20 Mar 14, 2010
no i dont need it, do you? its called take care of your own before you help others. but then again thats why we have people screwin the system like someone mentioned in another topic.

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