Springboro school levy defeated a fifth time

Nov 3, 2010 | Posted by: roboblogger | Full story: Middletown Journal

For the fifth consecutive time, voters in the Springboro school district defeated a levy for new operating money, according to final, unofficial results Tuesday.

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pupperoni

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Feste Ainoriba wrote:
Fascinating developments lately, don't all you "yes" voters think?
After a careful audit, appointment of a new superintendent, and replacing some board members, we "discover" that our doomsday deficit wasn't real after all. The district is actually running a healthy surplus.
Turn the lights on, and a funny thing happens, the big bad deficit boogeyman you all saw hiding in our closet turns out to be imaginative.
Not imaginative but SB5 changes the playing field allowing for districts to leverage and negotiate salaries and benefits. Things change over time. Just like your household budget does. To keep claiming the BOE is lying is irresponsible. Look at the state of the budgets of school districts all across Ohio and the nation. Do you honestly believe each BOE in each district lies to their communities. Your conspiracy theories aren't based on reality but a sense of drama. Name me 3 BOE's you feel aren't lying...three school districts here in Ohio....come on - since you think it's all made up here in the 'Boro tell us where they're doing it right! The ball is in your court my friend and I'm interested in what you come back with.
JC Moniker

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Well according to the last treasurer Debtweller we were to be way off the cliff by now. Then we get old Lolli on TV sayin "we listened to the voters and we are good till 2017.

I would say Educate Springboro caught them with their thoughts down!
fact

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JC Moniker wrote:
Well according to the last treasurer Debtweller we were to be way off the cliff by now. Then we get old Lolli on TV sayin "we listened to the voters and we are good till 2017.
I would say Educate Springboro caught them with their thoughts down!
We would have fallen off the cliff but the BOE cut costs by
no bussing throughout system
larger class sizes
no all day kindergarten
reusing older text books
cut back on school services
high pay to play
etc

But you donít see it,
because it all looks good from the outside, the budget is balanced

There will be a levy in two years, a renewal of a current levy
I guess you should start the campaign to vote down the renewal levy, because in your eyes they lied about the need of money in the past levyís,
So they must be lying about the money needed from a renewal levy.
Canít they just cut a little more so more money is not needed
and they can stay in budget?
JC Moniker

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no bussing throughout system
Give me some of what your smokin. No bussing than what are those big yellow things on the roads? Fast caterpillars?
no all day kindergarten
All day that did not happen. Now just think if that levy passed with the supposed money for all day. The taxpayer does not get it back. It just stays in the system and gets spent on something else.
reusing older text books
Drop in the bucket. Old books have always been used. You don't always need the newest.
cut back on school services
Such as? In troubled times we all cut back on what we have. Why are the schools any different.
high pay to play
Debtwiler said the school takes in 750k for pay to play.
Yet thats not what the true cost is. You know how they figured the cost? They guessed. They guessed how many would be in the programs and divided what they felt they needed by that number. Just like the 5 year budgets. THEY GUESS WE PAY!!!
But you donít see it,
because it all looks good from the outside, the budget is balanced
No you don't see it. The people out of work trying to make ends meet. The house values dropping all over the county by as much as 30 percent, yet the taxes hardly going down.
There will be a levy in two years, a renewal of a current levy
I guess you should start the campaign to vote down the renewal levy, because in your eyes they lied about the need of money in the past levyís,
So they must be lying about the money needed from a renewal levy.
Canít they just cut a little more so more money is not needed
and they can stay in budget?
Trust is earned not given.

They are doing a lousy job like you teacher.
Sboro Grapevine

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Nice distortion wrote:
Your statements about Ohio's admin costs are blatantly false. The truth is there are no national standards for reporting school spending; thus, state to state comparisons are not valid. The typical person does not know that these so called adminsitrative costs for Ohio school districts include much more than salaries of superintendents, principals, etc. It also includes their secretaries and other support personnel, their copy machines, community mailings, and simply most costs that are not attributable to classrooms. It's completely fair to discuss all of these costs in their totality, but at least be certain that citizens understand how Ohio reports "administrative costs" and be certain they know this is much more than the salary and benefits of administrators. I would certainly be happy to know what you feel is extravagant in administrative costs in Springboro as compared to other similar districts.
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Certainly NOT happy to let you know what is EXTRAVAGANT in administrative costs in Springboro, as compared to other similar districts....there's nothing about this extravagant administrative cost for common sense voters in Springboro to be happy about. Springboro...

reported recently in the DDN that Springboro schools administrative costs per pupil soaks up the largest percent of our our school budget, than some area schools in comparison, including Centerville.

The article credits Centerville schools "lower than Springboro schools" administrative costs per pupil to the fact that Centerville High School does not hire Assistant Principals; whereas, Springboro High School has two assistant high school principals. Ron Malone, Springboro high school principal, is one of the most highly paid administrators with yearly salary of $110,000/with benefits.
pupperoni

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pupperoni wrote:
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Not imaginative but SB5 changes the playing field allowing for districts to leverage and negotiate salaries and benefits. Things change over time. Just like your household budget does. To keep claiming the BOE is lying is irresponsible. Look at the state of the budgets of school districts all across Ohio and the nation. Do you honestly believe each BOE in each district lies to their communities. Your conspiracy theories aren't based on reality but a sense of drama. Name me 3 BOE's you feel aren't lying...three school districts here in Ohio....come on - since you think it's all made up here in the 'Boro tell us where they're doing it right! The ball is in your court my friend and I'm interested in what you come back with.
Come on all you BOE haters and Educate Springboro believers. How come you're so quiet? B-O-R-O!
taxpayer

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pupperoni wrote:
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Come on all you BOE haters and Educate Springboro believers. How come you're so quiet? B-O-R-O!
enjoying the weather outside, you should try crawling out of your cave once in a while.
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Come on all you BOE haters and Educate Springboro believers. How come you're so quiet? B-O-R-O!
B-O-R-O residents are quietly listening to Larry Budd of the Dayton Daily News let his "fingers do the talking" about what's
happening in the board room (and the "court" room)....DO YOU HEAR WHAT WE HEAR?...

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Not to worry no money will come out of the BOE pockets,
win or lose, we will all pay for it in the end.

For sure we will all pay for it in the end, as soon as Springboro School superintendent decides HOW MUCH "we the overtaxed already people" will pay for the school superintendent's inept leadership.
It appears that the school superintendent could not even lolligag a "legal" reason to fire Sarah Lord; and now has created a NEW ADMINISTRATIVE position, throwing the cost of his inability to manage his employees (without causing a law suit against the district) on the backs of the overbudened taxpayer.

By Lawrence Budd, Staff Writer 7:55 AM Tuesday, June 14, 2011
SPRINGBORO ó The Springboro school board is expected to transfer a principal, who has filed a lawsuit against the board over her non-renewal, into a new administrative position.
On Tuesday the board is expected to transfer Sarah Lord, principal at Clearcreek Elementary School since 2006, into a new assistant human resources director position.
Lord was reassigned to a special projects position in the districtís administrative office after her principalís contract was not renewed by the board on March 24.
Among claims in Lordís lawsuit, her lawyers say the district automatically renewed her by failing to evaluate her during the previous contract period.
The lawsuit also accuses the district of creating ďa new and unnecessary administratorís positionĒ for Lord as a step toward terminating or laying her off.
On Monday, Lordís lawyer, Mark Byrne, said of the new job:ďWe believe itís a cover-up to hide their unlawful actions.Ē
In July, Lordís lawyers are scheduled to question board members in depositions.
Superintendent Gene Lolli said Lordís new position was part of the administrative reorganization of the district where more than 30 employees have been laid off as voters rejected five consecutive levies for new operating money.
Lolli and board members declined to comment on whether Lordís transfer into the new job was related to the lawsuit she filed earlier this month accusing the board of illegally non-renewing her contract and four of five board members of conspiring in a ďsmear campaignĒ against her.
Lolli said he was unsure how much the assistant human resources director position would pay.
In April, the board offered Lord ó who earned about $81,000 in salary last year ó a contract for a principal position with a base salary of $81,508, according to the lawsuit.
Lord is to be transferred into the new job during a meeting beginning at 7 p.m. at Springboro High School.
pupperoni

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It's been great golfing weather. As I sit with my iced tea I can only wonder why no one has responded and listed 3 BOEs in Ohio that are doing a good job. Why is that? All you critical and vocal BOE haters out there. Haven't you done your homework?

If you want us to believe there are 4 BOE members in Springboro screwing up your lives for the hell of it please enlighten us with the names of 3 - just 3 - examples of BOEs you do not feel are screwing over, manipulating, threatening, morally corrupting or squeezing taxpayers in their districts? Are you out of hot air?

NO NEED TO POST ANYTHING IN RESPONSE UNLESS YOU CAN JUST LIST 3 BOEs you manipulating little ... ;-)

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Amazing how this is happening.

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