Homeless offenders a headache

Homeless offenders a headache

There are 40 comments on the DispatchPolitics story from Sep 27, 2009, titled Homeless offenders a headache. In it, DispatchPolitics reports that:

Registered sex offenders live in Schiller and Goodale parks in Columbus. Another gives his address as behind Paul Brown Stadium in Cincinnati, while still another stays in an old railroad steam tunnel in Cambridge.

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Ron

Westerville, OH

#24 Sep 27, 2009
Sex offenders don't re-offend because they're homeless, out of work, etc. They are the most difficult to work with because nobody really has found a program that does work. Castration sounds good, but it's not realistic because it's illegal, unconstitutional, etc. Locking up the homeless because they're in a park after dark is rediculous because it costs lots of tax dollars and takes space away from those serious offenders that need to be locked up. The Brits established Australia to get rid of their felons. Maybe we should just find a huge island in the middle of nowhere and send them all there.
factsNOTmyths

Marion, OH

#25 Sep 27, 2009
Ron wrote:
Sex offenders don't re-offend because they're homeless, out of work, etc. They are the most difficult to work with because nobody really has found a program that does work. Castration sounds good, but it's not realistic because it's illegal, unconstitutional, etc. Locking up the homeless because they're in a park after dark is rediculous because it costs lots of tax dollars and takes space away from those serious offenders that need to be locked up. The Brits established Australia to get rid of their felons. Maybe we should just find a huge island in the middle of nowhere and send them all there.
Just where are you getting your information from?

I worked with them in the correctional setting and they were nowhere NEAR the most difficult to work with, and there ARE some really good programs out that there DO work.

I think you've been watching too much Nancy (dis)Grace.
factsNOTmyths

Marion, OH

#26 Sep 27, 2009
Mimi wrote:
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I don't give a rat's a88 what motivates these sickos, what about the emotional well being of their VICTIMS you idiot! Work with them? Give them a kid to molest? You are the core of the problem.
Oh my, aren't WE intelligent.

You don't know who or what I have or have not worked with, and what's worse is you don't know that I am a SURVIVOR of child molestation YOU IDIOT.

YOU are the problem.
Not Politically Correct

Norwich, OH

#27 Sep 27, 2009
The City Police in Columbus simply do not enforce the law of staying out of parks after certain hours. The front porch of the Caretaker's house in Goodale Park has gotten to the point where the street bums even leave their blankets and junk on the porch all day while they are out with their "need work" signs. It is nothing to be rather startled to see them just sitting their as if they own the place. Who tells the police to let them alone?????
Jesse

Malden, MA

#28 Sep 27, 2009
They hurt a child they deserve death row. Its a living murder they committed. The Justice system in the country is broken. Plea deals and all this other, this for that no good. I have a friend that is has A PH D and 27 yrs of counseling sex offenders and murderers etc. She says they cannot be rehabilitated. The urge to do it again NEVER goes away. What shall w do ? why is that someone that can hurt a child EVER deserve to be released?
Just Me

United States

#29 Sep 27, 2009
snzp wrote:
I think castration might be the best solution to dealing with this problem. If a sex-offender isn't able to house himself and it thus untrackable because he's homeless, then it's best to eliminate the threat by castration.
Another suggestion... crack down on people living in places like Goodale Park. There are signs at the park entraces stating it is closed after 11PM (or something like that). Anyone caught in there after closing should be arrested.
Castration, yea that will make them easier to track.
Just Me

United States

#30 Sep 27, 2009
Not Politically Correct wrote:
The City Police in Columbus simply do not enforce the law of staying out of parks after certain hours. The front porch of the Caretaker's house in Goodale Park has gotten to the point where the street bums even leave their blankets and junk on the porch all day while they are out with their "need work" signs. It is nothing to be rather startled to see them just sitting their as if they own the place. Who tells the police to let them alone?????
My guess is the tax payers want them left alone, after all if you run them out of the park where are they going to go, under that big pine tree in your yard? I'd rather they stay in the park. My kids can play someplace else.
Just Me

United States

#31 Sep 27, 2009
Since it is society who has permanently labeled these offenders making it near impossible for them to find employment so they could have a home, we should then just shut up about them living under a bridge. I can barely pay my own way I sure don't want the added expense of higher taxes for housing a sex offender.

Not all people labeled as sex offenders are a danger to society, I know one guy who was a deputy sheriff who fell in love with a 17 year old girl, he was labeled and went to prison for 18 mos. When he got out he and the now 19 year old girl got married. People like him should be taken off the offender list and allowed to find employment, maybe then they could move out of the park.

Society is too free with handing out the labels then worse yet complaining that the people are living under a bridge and hard to keep an eye on. Lets make up our minds on what the hell it is we want.

And for those who say that a sex offender can't be treated, why is it that that is the only obsessive compulsive disorder that can't be treated? That just doesn't make sense, unless it is not PC to try to treat them.

Just my opinion I could be wrong.
Just Me

United States

#32 Sep 27, 2009
Jesse wrote:
They hurt a child they deserve death row. Its a living murder they committed. The Justice system in the country is broken. Plea deals and all this other, this for that no good. I have a friend that is has A PH D and 27 yrs of counseling sex offenders and murderers etc. She says they cannot be rehabilitated. The urge to do it again NEVER goes away. What shall w do ? why is that someone that can hurt a child EVER deserve to be released?
Make no mistake, the justice system isn't broken, it never really worked all that well from the beginning.
Mimi

Fostoria, OH

#34 Sep 28, 2009
factsNOTmyths wrote:
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Oh my, aren't WE intelligent.
You don't know who or what I have or have not worked with, and what's worse is you don't know that I am a SURVIVOR of child molestation YOU IDIOT.
YOU are the problem.
I'm intelligent enough to know what drives these sick people and I don't need to know your life story. I didn't question the who, what, why or how of your life either, so what's your point? Plenty of folks have "survived" child molestation, if you want to call it that. I'd rather avoid that problem in the future and not make myself believe that "we just need to work with them."
Truthseeker

United States

#35 Sep 28, 2009
Cobb County Georgia has put them in a camp where the probation officers check on them twice a week and they are required to report in once a week. Most sex offender laws, as are other laws, are no more than "overkill" mandates that make no provision for how they are to be enforced or even if they can be enforced. But the laws are written to meet the demands of the outraged with little thought to the consequences to the rest of society, including the sex offenders. Personally, I am for the death penalty for the most serious sex offenders ... that would be one way to cure the problem of the homeless ones who have committed violent sex crimes against children.
Ron Burgundy

Columbus, OH

#36 Sep 28, 2009
factsNOTmyths wrote:
Spyderwasp and Hemicuda have said all that needs to be said, and I will not repeat it.
I'm very tired though, of explaining why castration is NOT the answer, and why we don't need expend the dollars in "microchipping" these individuals.
Those who think castration is the answer are those who completely and totally no NOTHING about what motivates a sex offense to begin with. They believe it is the sexual urge that that the offender is acting on, when that has nothing, or very little anyway, to do with it. The offense is generally about power and control. If you completely cut the phallus off, the offender would possibly use a broomstick, a pop bottle, something else to penetrate.
Sex offenses are much more of an emotional/mental issue, than a physical one.
Even is you WERE right, we'd all be a lot safer if we worked WITH them, instead of ostracizing them and making pariahs out of them.
But then the rest of the public is perfect...right?
Rather castration, how about a lobotomy? Sounds like this would do the trick.

And to get at this "oh my, we've made this worse because we ostracized these people" nonsense. Some things are not forgivable. If someone is messed up in the head enough to do this once, well, that's all we need to make a permanent judge of their character as a human being. Bye bye..
constitutionalfi ghts

Springfield, OH

#37 Sep 28, 2009
Ohio's draconian sex offender laws have become an national embarrassment. Ohio is the only state in the country to have substantially adopted the Adam Walsh Act provisions, after more than 3 years. Why is that ? Because most other states can see that these laws are impracticable, financially unsustainable , ineffective and riddled with constitutional violations. Yet, in Ohio, our illustrious General Assembly passed these laws unanimously on an emergency basis in 2007 in order to gain the 10% Byrne Funding, which amounts to a pittance when compared to the cost of implementation of these laws - not to mention the enormous cost the state is paying to defend these laws in courts in every county of the state ! For facts, see www.constitutionalfights.org
JW Morrison

Arlington, TN

#38 Oct 15, 2009
Even of all sex offenders were child molesters familial molesters are the least likely of all to re offend.
UNCLE ALBERT

North Ridgeville, OH

#39 Oct 15, 2009
Stitches 77 wrote:
Well you people blindly passed these idiotic laws, this is the result.
http://www.oncefallen.com/ResidenceRestrictio...
And the results are just great. Sex offenders get what they deserve.

“Apocalypse 8:6 Live!”

Since: Sep 09

Columbustan

#40 Dec 26, 2009
I'll take that NUT as a badge of honor as I actually know what I'm speaking about from experience. Sure I would like to see them all boil in oil but that's why we are at war against religious fanatics. God alone has a hot tub big enough for them all to boil and there's ancient promise that he will do that clerical robes and all.
hank the tank

Cuyahoga Falls, OH

#41 Dec 26, 2009
These young girls need to stop wearing short shorts and tank tops, thereby removing the provocation. Today's youngsters seem to be a lot sexier than they were in our day. You could argue that it's a case of entrapment half the time. Put some clothes on! I can't walk from one end of the mall to the other without running into things due to all that tight skin strutting around.
Ex PostFacto

Edgemoor, SC

#42 Jan 9, 2010
Those who say "they should be kept in jail," or "I say micro chip them in the same way OnStar does vehicles" have no idea.
Our state[s] and U.S. Constitutions apply to some, but not all. Its all well and good to subject "sex offenders," many of whom never touched a child, to unconstitutional and Ex Post Facto legislation, until that is, you or someone in your family is deemed a lesser member of society and are treated the same.
I wonder how those here would react if their child, or sibling, were arrested for "sexting" and required to follow the same legislative rules. Would you tell your 15 year old daughter to get out of your house? Ask the judge to keep her in jail? Suggest to the prosecution that she be forced to undergo surgery to be implanted with a tracking device?
Two lawmakers in Michigan found out just what its like, and are now trying to effect legislation that they hope will benefit their family members.
Even though a good majority of sex offender legislation is unconstitutional, the fact still remains that it 1) has not had the desired effect, and 2) has not been proven to be effective. DOJ studies show that the financial cost outweighs any benefit and, that the recidivism rate is much less than any politician would have you believe.
Mike

Powell, OH

#43 Jan 13, 2010
Birds of a Feather wrote:
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Some people are homeless because they WANT to be. I personally know of one who a great many people tried to help. He would accept their help to a certain extent but when it became uncomfortable for him he would just move along. He stayed in this area for years, he was a nice guy, everybody seen him here and there but most just ignored him. He was NOT a sexual offender as this story is talking about. I'm just bringing his story to light because of the homeless part. Not everybody is homeless because they HAVE to be. Some are homeless because they CHOOSE to be.
Maybe I just don't understand but why would anyone choose to be homeless? I hate being out in this cold and snow just going to and from my car, I can't imagine living and sleeping in it.
JRW

Columbus, OH

#44 Jan 13, 2010
Feed up wrote:
Sex offenders are the new leprosy community of long ago. No one wants them to live near them. Why are we putting a scarlet letter on them? Not all sex offenders are child molesters, yet when some one says sex offender, what is the first thing that comes to your mind?
Even if they are not child molesters they are still sex offenders!! There is a reason they were arrested and convicted of a sexual crime. I am not sure how this relates to a scarlet letter but there is reason behind tracking them.

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