Proposed coal-fired plants in Michigan

Proposed coal-fired plants in Michigan

There are 23 comments on the WOOD-TV Grand Rapids story from Apr 13, 2008, titled Proposed coal-fired plants in Michigan. In it, WOOD-TV Grand Rapids reports that:

Michigan has 19 coal-fired power plants. Permit applications for five new or expanded coal plants are being considered by state environmental regulators: _Midland County, a 750-megawatt joint project by LS ...

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Since: Mar 08

Morley, Mi

#22 Apr 15, 2008
Seenitbefore wrote:
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I don't argue that. To believe though that the addition of these plants is going to be the panacea for energy costs is juvenile thinking. But then that type of thinking is a pandemic in this state.
Ask yourself this question. IF the economic problems and loss of businesses and population in this state is as bad a problem as so many want to believe it is, why the need for more electricity generation plants?
Ever ask yourself why it is when the economy is, and has been several times over past decades, why more office buildings and bank buildings get built than when the economic times are good? While your asking yourself that, also question why it is that the poor economic times and this expansion of office and bank...business buildings, as opposed to manufacturing expansion increases.
A little Sherlock Holmes is needed here because things are not as they seem and espceially not you're being told.
I don't expect that it will prevent increasing prices.. I just think it will help keep them from going totally out of control....
I just would like them to stay withing a level that I don't need toooo Much Vaseline each month... I mean really.. at my current monthly bill I don't think I can take bending over anymore....
Anyone want to trade electric bills with me....
Average monthly bil for over 2 years now has been 250 to 300 Bucks per month for a 1200 Sq. ft house.
Without much for extras.
Seenitbefore

Three Rivers, MI

#23 Apr 15, 2008
Grasshopper1624 wrote:
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I don't expect that it will prevent increasing prices.. I just think it will help keep them from going totally out of control....
I just would like them to stay withing a level that I don't need toooo Much Vaseline each month... I mean really.. at my current monthly bill I don't think I can take bending over anymore....
Anyone want to trade electric bills with me....
Average monthly bil for over 2 years now has been 250 to 300 Bucks per month for a 1200 Sq. ft house.
Without much for extras.
Well go somewhere and stock up on the Vasoline because once these are approved your bill will go higher and it won't be coming down any.

This whole deal of more brings the price down is a L I E .

Having driven over the road extensively and seeing all the cars in all the lots and on the streets in all the cities and all the towns and burbs for sale, new and used, one would think everyone should be able to afford a newer car there are so many the price should be just about give away. But Nope.

Take some smelling salts. THE MARKET DOESN'T WORK ANY MORE!
rider

Marquette, MI

#24 Feb 11, 2010
Humboldt Township, Michigan – Jon Cherry, Rio Tinto’s Eagle Project Manager, presented the company’s plans for the Humboldt Mill to a packed crowd at the Humboldt Township Hall on January 12, 2009, but steered away from questions about likely pollution.
Rio Tinto is a “good company that operate[s] to the same level of safety and environmental standards worldwide, regardless where we’re operating,” Cherry said.
But University of Wisconsin, La Crosse sociology professor and mining expert Al Gedicks disagrees.
“A company’s track record in other places is one of the best predictors of future behavior,” said Gedicks.“If decision-makers in Michigan choose to ignore this record, they are setting themselves up to join the long list of communities burdened with cleaning up Kennecott’s mine pollution.”
Many others also disagree with Cherry’s claims. In September, 2008, the Government of Norway (formerly one of Rio Tinto’s largest shareholders) divested from the company, citing “grossly unethical” environmental abuse at the Grasberg Mine, in West Papua. Additionally, at Grasberg, the Australian Council on Overseas Aid found mine security and military personnel were responsible for the “disappearances” of 22 civilians and torturing of 13 others between 1994 and 1995. Rio Tinto acknowledged paying the Indonesian military $4.7 million in 2001 and $5.6 million in 2002 for its services. Citizens of neighboring Papua New Guinea are suing the company, under the Alien Tort Claims Act, alleging that Rio Tinto created extensive environmental damage at its Bougainville mine, paid Black workers less than white counterparts and instigated a civil war.
Cherry made no mention of such past history or pending lawsuits. Instead, he compared Rio Tinto’s Humboldt plans with former milling at the site. According to Cherry, Callahan Mining Company’s Ropes Gold Mine and Humboldt Mill “operated rather successfully,” and Rio Tinto’s proposed milling process is “the exact same process that Callahan and the Ropes Mine used.” Rio Tinto is not “proposing to do anything at the Mill that hasn’t been done before,” Cherry said, and the company “can probably do it a little better.”
Some Humboldt Township residents were unconvinced, since Callahan’s mill left part of the community with undrinkable well-water.“When Callahan was there they ran all their water out of the pit and ruined all of the wells on the Wolf Lake Road,” said Ron Norkoli. He told Cherry to “find another way to put that water other than through my backyard.”

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