Two Indicted on TennCare Fraud Charges

Two Indicted on TennCare Fraud Charges

There are 29 comments on the Citizen Press story from Dec 16, 2008, titled Two Indicted on TennCare Fraud Charges. In it, Citizen Press reports that:

Fraudulent use of TennCare to pay for a forged prescription has landed a Giles County woman in jail, according to the Office of Inspector General.

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Johnny Gringo

Sevierville, TN

#1 Dec 18, 2008
Doesn't suprise me that someone from Lewisburg was involved.

Dope heads!!
Friend

Columbia, TN

#2 Dec 18, 2008
Why put the poor in jail for Tenn Care Fraud
Some Dr. Approved it
When some Tenn Care Worker approved it
With computers not days and all the information they ask for
Hell put the Dr. or Tenn Care worker in jail First
Dr. for perscribing it and the worker for approving it.
wow

Lewisburg, TN

#3 Dec 18, 2008
Friend wrote:
Why put the poor in jail for Tenn Care Fraud
Some Dr. Approved it
When some Tenn Care Worker approved it
With computers not days and all the information they ask for
Hell put the Dr. or Tenn Care worker in jail First
Dr. for perscribing it and the worker for approving it.
OMG! you didn't blame Lewisburg City Govt.... Are you feeling ok?????
Johnny Gringo

Sevierville, TN

#4 Dec 18, 2008
wow wrote:
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OMG! you didn't blame Lewisburg City Govt.... Are you feeling ok?????
MUAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!!!!!!!

I think one of his sheep kicked him in the head!
Evil Monkey

College Grove, TN

#5 Dec 18, 2008
Friend wrote:
Why put the poor in jail for Tenn Care Fraud
Some Dr. Approved it
When some Tenn Care Worker approved it
With computers not days and all the information they ask for
Hell put the Dr. or Tenn Care worker in jail First
Dr. for perscribing it and the worker for approving it.
Hmmm, this is so wrong at so many level's it's really hard to know where to start with this one.

The poster seems to believe that the person who actually perpertrated the fraud is some how blameless. That seems to me to be a totally baseless and, if I may say, clueless world view.

It's is if we say that students don't make test mistakes, pencils and pencil manufactures do. So all kids who fail a test should be allowed to pass.

It also makes the totally baseless assumption that "fraud" means getting medicines for some vailid reason.

We should assume that when changed with "fraud" the police have evidence that that person actually perpertrated a falshhood in order to get the perscription drugs. That would be "lying" I believe.(you can check me on that in any webster's dictionary under FRAUD and again under "LIAR").

But when you tell a doctor you need medicine, then we really expect them to give it to them. Imagine that, a person goes to a doctor, complains of a problem and the doctor treats them with a perscription! Isn't that horrifying?

And if that person is qualified for Tenn(welfare)care, we expect the person to approve it. Or do we want that person to call the doctor and scold him or her for actually doing their job? Should we have the goverment investigate the doctor and the insurance approval mechanism each time?

With nearly 2.1 million people on Tenn(welfare)care in out sad little state, we would have to hire at least 10% of that number in order to keep up with the demand of doublechecking each perscription.

I guess the poster thinks we have that kind of time and money.

We can't really fault the doctor or the government employee for actually doing what they are supposed to be doing in any way, now can we?

As far as the computers, well, what can we say? Obviously all computer systems are evil too, and need to be locked up.

Let's start with "Friend"'s computer....
Friend

Columbia, TN

#6 Dec 18, 2008
Evil Monkey wrote:
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Hmmm, this is so wrong at so many level's it's really hard to know where to start with this one.
The poster seems to believe that the person who actually perpertrated the fraud is some how blameless. That seems to me to be a totally baseless and, if I may say, clueless world view.
It's is if we say that students don't make test mistakes, pencils and pencil manufactures do. So all kids who fail a test should be allowed to pass.
It also makes the totally baseless assumption that "fraud" means getting medicines for some vailid reason.
We should assume that when changed with "fraud" the police have evidence that that person actually perpertrated a falshhood in order to get the perscription drugs. That would be "lying" I believe.(you can check me on that in any webster's dictionary under FRAUD and again under "LIAR").
But when you tell a doctor you need medicine, then we really expect them to give it to them. Imagine that, a person goes to a doctor, complains of a problem and the doctor treats them with a perscription! Isn't that horrifying?
And if that person is qualified for Tenn(welfare)care, we expect the person to approve it. Or do we want that person to call the doctor and scold him or her for actually doing their job? Should we have the goverment investigate the doctor and the insurance approval mechanism each time?
With nearly 2.1 million people on Tenn(welfare)care in out sad little state, we would have to hire at least 10% of that number in order to keep up with the demand of doublechecking each perscription.
I guess the poster thinks we have that kind of time and money.
We can't really fault the doctor or the government employee for actually doing what they are supposed to be doing in any way, now can we?
As far as the computers, well, what can we say? Obviously all computer systems are evil too, and need to be locked up.
Let's start with "Friend"'s computer....
Let me ask you this Stupid Monkey
What did you go to the doctor for in the first place if you are going to tell the Doctor what too give you?
Do you think you should as the patient be telling the doctor what to give you?

Well my explanation is that some Doctors it would seem should have enough of an education in knowing how much medication to subscribe just enough yet not too much.
As well a trained Tenn. Care employee should be able to note over prescribed medication.
And Common since to turn it down and reflect back on the doctor charge the doctor with over prescribing lock the doctor up for over prescribing.
With computers and the right information figure prints and eye scans it would be very easy too see who what, when, where, how much, and the medication went.
Too kill a snake always hit the head not the tail.
The Snake if you ask me is the thinking in.
The Doctor, Drug Store, the Tenn. Care Approver, and then the victim.
The easiest person too blame is the poor the uneducated the sick. The victim.
I say blame the Slick, Rich, Educated, professionals lock some of them up and you stop allot of this Fraud.
Lots of doctors caused the problem in the first place by over prescribing the medication?
The Doctor can blood test and tell if the patient is a drug addict or not.
The Doctor should know better than over prescribe, the drug store should no better than to over fill the prescription, the Tenn. Care approver should know by looking at the history of the patient

You can not expect and uneducated hypochondriac too not dispense and sell their extra medication for money.

Your suggestion of lets too others
Suggests to me you are stupider
Than most monkeys be
That a crime
You would commit
I really think you are full of shiX
Evil Monkey

College Grove, TN

#7 Dec 18, 2008
err.."Friend"

To begin arguing a point, it would be better IF you had read the actual article.

My former posting that deconstructed your "posting" should have given you the clue that you are really not with us.

Let me futher deconstruct your last posting with what we on Earth like to call "FACTS".

First, you didn't read the article. If you will notice on the top of your screen, there is a thingie called a "link" and it says "Read full story from Citizen Press"

If you had taken the 1.2 seconds to do that, you may have seen that the people in queston actually FORGED the perscriptions and ILLEGALLY misrepresented themselves for Eligiblity for Tenn(welfare)care.

So that totally blows out any real point that you may or may not have had, just by reading the base story.

Check it, Friend. Then come back and tell me all about how bad the doctors are and how the systems are so mislaced, blah, blah, blah.

Now, I don't have to prove you are stupid. After all, it seems you do a wonderful job of that yourself.
Friend

Columbia, TN

#8 Dec 18, 2008
Evil Monkey wrote:
err.."Friend"
To begin arguing a point, it would be better IF you had read the actual article.
My former posting that deconstructed your "posting" should have given you the clue that you are really not with us.
Let me futher deconstruct your last posting with what we on Earth like to call "FACTS".
First, you didn't read the article. If you will notice on the top of your screen, there is a thingie called a "link" and it says "Read full story from Citizen Press"
If you had taken the 1.2 seconds to do that, you may have seen that the people in queston actually FORGED the perscriptions and ILLEGALLY misrepresented themselves for Eligiblity for Tenn(welfare)care.
So that totally blows out any real point that you may or may not have had, just by reading the base story.
Check it, Friend. Then come back and tell me all about how bad the doctors are and how the systems are so mislaced, blah, blah, blah.
Now, I don't have to prove you are stupid. After all, it seems you do a wonderful job of that yourself.
Just my opinion

Well not all Tenn. Care fraud is committed by forged perception but if that is so
The drug store could easily tell if the prescription is forged I would say.
Just by checking with the doctor I would think all prescriptions should be entered into a data base and be retrieval on line.
In being it is not a legal prescription the person had
It was a piece of paper which the poor victim presented to the drug store in an effort to obtain medication with out a legal prescription.
So it was not a prescription at all.
That being true how could they could charge them with an illegal prescription.
It must have been only a piece of paper that looked like a prescription
So it that illegal to have a piece of paper that looks like a prescription.
The druggist should have told them that it was no good and sent them on their way.
Rather the system pokes them in jail and now we the taxpayers pay for their medication, doctor bills, food and lodging.
So who lost the taxpayers?
Gee that seems to me the system is mess up.

Since: Nov 08

United States

#9 Dec 18, 2008
Umm, lots of times these people who do fraud, will change the quanity or miligrams of the prescription and hope they don't get caught at the pharmacy
Friend

Columbia, TN

#10 Dec 19, 2008
My opinion

I agree fraud is at both ends but it is like this
When Government in it's self is above the law and not fraud Free, and does not demo straight too the people in it's self that it prosecutes and convicts it's own at the top to the full extent of the law.
How can you expect the rest too obeys the laws.
When laws are made from the top, then from top down laws should be paid.
How many Government leaders get by with breaking the law?
Presidents lie then say bad information caused them to go to war.
Yet they still stay in office and are never jailed.
It would seem the less of two Evils gets the blame, serves the time, and the real problem is never corrected.
If we really wanted to stop crime, fraud, and drug use then.
The top the brain is the main.
I would think more money and fraud has been committed against Tenn. Care by over writing and giving out drugs that are addictive for the purpose to make money off of Tenn. Care. By Doctors and hospitals using Tenn. Care for their profit, or some lazy Tenn. Care worker who is too lazy to check the legitimately of the Bill.
Than any poor or addictive drug user
It would seem that we as a society are saying don’t, to the least the poor the oppressed the sick, you are to blame for the problems we created, in that we are going to make and example out of you.
As to solve our problem
As the real problems continues to cause our problems
When we look in all the wrong places for the answer
And blame all the wrong people.

Which in the enforcement of our laws created and we all or paying for.
Just a vicious Cycle of ignorance on our part as a Socialistic society doesn’t you thinks.
Stop the problem at the top
If you want the problem to stop.
Johnny Gringo

Sevierville, TN

#11 Dec 19, 2008
Friend is your typical liberal. He wants druggies, child molesters and abortionists to be praised.

He doesn't believe people should take personal responsibility. He believes in free handouts and that color and sex should get you a job over qualifications.

There's no need in debating him. He will rant on about how the US is evil and how the white man is at fault for the worlds problems.
Evil Monkey

College Grove, TN

#12 Dec 19, 2008
I know there's no need in debating "Friend". LOL.

You notice that first he goes into a long diatribe about how the government is wicked without a fact to back up the charges. Didn't read the information, just thought he knew all about it.

That's a liberal.

Then when confronted with the obvious logical fallacy of the argument, immediately started rambling about vague references to Bush and the war.

Then absolves all people for being victims. Threw in some class warfare stuff, etc.

That's a real liberal for ya, for sure.

“Maverick”

Since: Mar 07

Location hidden

#13 Dec 19, 2008
tenn care should be for those who really need the help. not for someone that just don't wanna pay for medical services.put the 2 in jail along with anybody else that steals from the gov.
Friend

Columbia, TN

#14 Dec 20, 2008
Johnny Gringo wrote:
Friend is your typical liberal. He wants druggies, child molesters and abortionists to be praised.
He doesn't believe people should take personal responsibility. He believes in free handouts and that color and sex should get you a job over qualifications.
There's no need in debating him. He will rant on about how the US is evil and how the white man is at fault for the worlds problems.
Luke 6:42

How can you say to your brother,“brother let me take the speck out of your eye?
When you don’t see the beam in your own eye. You hypocrite
First remove the beam from thy own eye and then you’ll see clearly enough to remove the speck from your brother’s eye.
Friend

Columbia, TN

#15 Dec 20, 2008
maverick wrote:
tenn care should be for those who really need the help. not for someone that just don't wanna pay for medical services.put the 2 in jail along with anybody else that steals from the gov.
Boy you are real smart hell we don't have enough jails to hold them
Besides that you have most of government Office holder’s city and county officials and etc. in jail
Unless you are not counting taking or using for own personal gain "stealing."
Most public officials are on the take
Where there by Lobbyists or them selves.
Look at the trips they take look at the freebies they take
Look at the city cars being used for personal use
Hell Stealing is stealing small or big
If you want the truth.
Look in the mirrow your self.

Since: Sep 08

Lewisburg, TN

#16 Dec 20, 2008
If they are stealing, or commiting fraud, whichever, in order to get drugs to sell, they belong in jail. They are stealing from the tax payers, and making it even harder for those who really need it. The doctors and drug stores should be held accountable, too. Too many of these people "doctor shop" and get multiple prescriptions, then TNCare pays for it all, while they're selling the extra pills to make money. And making the drug problem even worse.
Friend

Columbia, TN

#17 Dec 20, 2008
Our Hometown wrote:
If they are stealing, or commiting fraud, whichever, in order to get drugs to sell, they belong in jail. They are stealing from the tax payers, and making it even harder for those who really need it. The doctors and drug stores should be held accountable, too. Too many of these people "doctor shop" and get multiple prescriptions, then TNCare pays for it all, while they're selling the extra pills to make money. And making the drug problem even worse.
Does Tenn. Care not have a computer and connected on line to each and every doctor who is participating in the Tenn. Care system as well as all drug stores.
The system is fighting a losing battle because the system feeds of it’s self and fight the wrong end to kill the problem.

Drugs and drug users are not the Problem Here it is the Distributors of the Drugs who are the problem
Just like on the street
It is the Head of the Drug rings they need to get

But it all bowls down too the system living off the profits of it's self
Based on the back of the taxpayer, poor and the sick hypochondriac drug users
Each and every part of the system does not want the real problem fixed
Why because they all want their part and funding.
It cost the Taxpayers the Most
Just a Dam Shame
It is plan too see.
How easy it would be to fix
soap box

Lewisburg, TN

#18 Dec 20, 2008
The doctors commit fraud everytime you hand them an insurance card and over charge your ins. company , becouse they know they will get paid. Doctors have been over charging people with insurance for ever ,now that is fraud in my book . Wrong is wrong no matter how much paperwork is involved.
Evil Monkey

College Grove, TN

#19 Dec 20, 2008
Friend, your solution is to bring down the drug companies?

Wow, that's freaking brilliant. Then we don't have to worry about "hypocondriac" drug addicts because there won't be any drugs.

How about an even simpler solution to taxpayer fraud from TennCare:

Get RID OF TENNCARE!

Problem solved. And we don't have to go out of state to do it. We don't have to anything to save the taxpayer from fraud.

I like that solution. Then my taxes go down.
Friend

Columbia, TN

#20 Dec 20, 2008
My opinion
I am for a Regulate Health Care System based on average cost with average cost including unforeseen cost for the same procedure over all.
In other words a birth would cost the same at all medical Hospitals and doctors could not charge above that cost.
They could charge less but not more for that same procedure.
Are and appendectomy all the same ave. cost.
Thus cost the insurance less and the insurance cost us less.
The Government be the insurance provider
Also all medicial personial would have the opertunity too attend Medicial School Free.
As long as you were and American Citizen.
Hospitials would have tax breaks and grants for studies and research.

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