Plastic bags could be history in Hawaii

DENNIS ODA / DODA@STARBULLETIN.COM Times employee Diane Erickson shows one of the store's recyclable shopping bags at Times Super Market's Beretania location in Makiki. Full Story
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Ernie Boy

United States

#1 Aug 26, 2008
Ok so now the next thing is shopping cart rentals... Or bring your own cart and pay a store usage fee...
Bobby

Lehigh Acres, FL

#2 Aug 26, 2008
It would seem to me that a better alternative would be simply reuse the plastic bags each week and when they become worn out, leave them at the store where the store bulk returns them to the manufacturer for recycling into new bags.

Sometimes, common sense is better than government legislation.

Bobby
glenn paul

Johnson City, NY

#3 Aug 26, 2008
Bobby wrote:
It would seem to me that a better alternative would be simply reuse the plastic bags each week and when they become worn out, leave them at the store where the store bulk returns them to the manufacturer for recycling into new bags.
Sometimes, common sense is better than government legislation.
Bobby
I agree 100 percent, here in Sayre, PA we use cloth bags which we take each time to the stores. Its very simple and easy.
Kimo

Honolulu, HI

#4 Aug 26, 2008
That would be a wonderful thing!
To whom can I donate my plastic bag collection? It feels like a cure for the plague! Oh I know, why don't we use our plastic bags for the good and place them over the heads of everyone in the Executive Branch of our Federal Government, then the Senate, then the Congress, and then about 4 dozen heads on Wall Street, The Federal Reserve Board, The Pentagon, etc, etc... Wow! I knew these bags had a good purpose!
wadesis

Fort Smith, AR

#5 Aug 26, 2008
Taking the plastic bags back to the store for recycling is not the problem--it is the ones that get away~! I see the plastic bags stuck on trees and bushes along the highways when I come to Hawaii. Arkansas Highways too.
My Dad had a grocery store and we used paper bags for decades before the plastic bag came along. We can do it again. I don't remember any getting wet and breaking through with cold/frozen things. I hope they ban them here.
mahealani

Worth, IL

#6 Aug 26, 2008
glenn paul wrote:
<quoted text>I agree 100 percent, here in Sayre, PA we use cloth bags which we take each time to the stores. Its very simple and easy.
and unsanitary..hope you people up there wash the bags
too much gov_t

Lihue, HI

#7 Aug 26, 2008
OK fine , now we can't use plastic bags, What a great feat for the lawmakers. Are we going to have the lawmakers tell us what to use for toilet paper next ?

Since: Jun 08

Portsmouth, NH

#8 Aug 26, 2008
Ernie Boy wrote:
Ok so now the next thing is shopping cart rentals... Or bring your own cart and pay a store usage fee...
When I was stationed in Germany I noticed the old women pushing their little carts to the market. They not only used no plastic, but no gasoline, either. Now, some 25 years later, we become so wise.
etops

Oklahoma City, OK

#9 Aug 26, 2008
Ernie Boy wrote:
Ok so now the next thing is shopping cart rentals... Or bring your own cart and pay a store usage fee...
Actually - that would be great! With all the inconsiderates that send carts on the loose to crash in to parked cars! Let's get RFID chips on the carts and require the user's credit cards held in escrow until the cart is returned and secured in the return station. That would identify the person responsible to pay for the damages. Make it a misdemeanor by city ordinance not to properly return a cart. It's all about manners and responsibility to the environment, our surroundings and our neighbors.
FatChance

Rockville, MD

#10 Aug 26, 2008
maybe we should go back to growing our own food ...

then barter for da rest of our needs ...

“Live Love Laugh.. and Surf! :)”

Since: Aug 08

Kaimuki,Hilo,Ka'u, Kaupo

#11 Aug 26, 2008
This is misguided and could backfire costing the environment much worse than they anticipate.

More people should grow some of their own veggies like Square Foot Gardens:

http://www.squarefootgardening.com

or even small vegetable gardens like mama-sans and papa-sans have been doing for years.
Green Machine

Redlands, CA

#12 Aug 26, 2008
Now if Times would STOP selling their to-go lunch/dinner plates in styrofoam containers.

I made the suggestion to the general manager at Times in Kailua, and he said they are working on it. Unfortunately, he's been telling me this for several YEARS.

1,000's of styrofoam containers are used WEEKLY to server their steak/garlic shrimp/salmon plate lunches.

If TIMES actually cared about our island, they would stop serving food in Styrofoam containers. NUFF SAID
manini

Honolulu, HI

#13 Aug 26, 2008
What ever happened to the biodegradable plastic bag that was being discussed last year. Did the paper bag industry get that killed, or was it the cloth bag sellers that got it nixed.
Sometimes you have to look to see who is making the money when these kinds of laws are passed, even if the law is a good idea.
bad dog

Lihue, HI

#14 Aug 26, 2008
It's really easy folks. Take a reusable tote to the grocery store. Some grocery stores give a refund for your reused plastic bags or your own tote used to pack produce and purchases. We all can take responsibility. It is time. Get used to the change. And plastic is a petroleum product. Reduce petrol usage. Another small step.
past life

Salinas, CA

#15 Aug 26, 2008
I am delighted that plastic will be gone. I remember coming to live in Honolulu in the early 70s, and seeing for the first time the plastic bag at grocery stores- thinking how ridiculious this is. 35+ years later, the public now sees this.
Sanitation and Health

Honolulu, HI

#16 Aug 26, 2008
This is a well-intentioned law. It will work if consumers, who bring their own cloth bags, make sure that they use separate bags for their meats, fish & poultry, lest they contaminate produce (fruits & veggies) and other foods like pastries. Or they must wash the bags after each usage, just like you wash your cutting boards and utensils at home.

Folks on the mainland have less of a problem of moisture condensation due to lower humidity (and dew point) most of the year. I recall the first time I was in Chicago, I wondered why my glass of iced tea had no condensation on the glass. In Hawaii, the tropical humidity makes all cold things wet.

“Time for Gonzo!”

Since: Aug 08

USA

#17 Aug 26, 2008
I have noticed various outlets selling reusable shopping bags. Walmart sells them for $2 and they hold as much as two of their regular plastic shopping bags. The only thing is that you just need to remember to bring them with you when you go shopping.

Walmart also accepts plastic bags for recycling, as do some other stores, like Safeway.

If more people buy the reusable bags and turn-in plastic bags for recycling, it would cleanup a lot of the mess that's left out on our streets.

“Time for Gonzo!”

Since: Aug 08

USA

#18 Aug 26, 2008
Growing your own vegetables sounds like a good idea, but isn't always workable.

First, not everyone can be even a small-scale farmer. Farming, on any scale, isn't an easy thing to do. Not everyone has even a small patch of ground they can use, either. Plus, you have to know how much fertilizer to use, how much water to give your crops as well as the use of pesticides.

Second, you have to worry about somebody coming along and stealing your crops. When that has happened, people get so frustrated and give-up growing their own crops.

Even small-scale farming isn't as easy as people think it is. I know this because I come from a family of farmers.
Consenting Adult

Pearl City, HI

#19 Aug 26, 2008
Just another added cost and pain in the butt. I'm not going to drag some dirty old cloth bag around everywhere I go. Let the customer decide. There is NOTHING stopping you from bringing your own bag. If so many people want it, the MARKET will respond.

Imagine if we banned bringing your own reusable bag.

Once again, this is another example of big govenment and the ultra-liberal nanny state.

Since: Nov 07

Location hidden

#20 Aug 26, 2008
Actually, the topic of debate whether paper, plastic or cloth being the best choice to carry your food items, is not the issue. The issue is that, once again, government wants to dictate what THEY think you should do instead of allowing the stores and us, to think for ourselves.

For all of you, who are environmentally conscious, you can take your own bag or request paper bags, if you want. Many businesses today are also becoming environmentally conscious and are, without government intrusion, making their own choices to use paper and getting rid of plastic bags.

If government wants to make themselves more useful, they should confront the real problems we're facing today, like our high cost of living, excessive taxes, and high gasoline prices.

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