Meetings discuss Iolani Palace use

Meetings discuss Iolani Palace use

There are 19 comments on the Honolulu Star-Bulletin story from Aug 7, 2008, titled Meetings discuss Iolani Palace use. In it, Honolulu Star-Bulletin reports that:

Statewide public hearings will be held on new proposed rules for public use of the Iolani Palace State Monument.

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Get Off Our Land

Kailua Kona, HI

#1 Aug 7, 2008
We don't need RULES about using Iolani Palace! The Queen gave us all the rights we need to be there. It's the haoles who use the word occupy.
Point of View

Kaneohe, HI

#2 Aug 7, 2008
Get Off Our Land wrote:
We don't need RULES about using Iolani Palace! The Queen gave us all the rights we need to be there. It's the haoles who use the word occupy.
Please show me where your rights to use the palace stem from? Is there some official documentation or a transcript of a speech that gave these rights?

Mahalo nui loa in advance

“I think, therefore, I am.”

Since: Sep 07

Los Angeles, CA

#3 Aug 7, 2008
Iolani Palace is a truly unique American historical monumnet: it is the country's only authentic, long-term usage royal palace. And it certainly belongs to the people--all people. However, the government has the right--and the duty--to create and enforce rules and regulations that will preserve and enhance the monument for current and future generations.
Point of View

Kaneohe, HI

#4 Aug 7, 2008
Authentic Palace?

Does that mean that Hawaii was a Kingdom?

Ahh, I guess if the "government" can regulate and take over Sadaams Palaces in Iraq, why not do the same with Iolani Palace in Hawaii.

Speaking of Sadaam ... didn't he tell G. Bush Sr. in 1991 that he would end the illegal occupation of Kuwait when the U.S. ends the illegal occupation of Hawaii?

Wow, what a trip. Kind of like a full circle.
Vkp

Honolulu, HI

#5 Aug 7, 2008
I beg to differ with you, it may be symmantecs, however, Iolani Palace is a truly unique "Hawaiian" historical monument. It belongs to the people of Hawai'i, but I welcome visitors to know a part of the history it houses. Some happy and some not so, but history nevertheless.
Al in LA wrote:
Iolani Palace is a truly unique American historical monumnet: it is the country's only authentic, long-term usage royal palace. And it certainly belongs to the people--all people. However, the government has the right--and the duty--to create and enforce rules and regulations that will preserve and enhance the monument for current and future generations.
Vkp

Honolulu, HI

#6 Aug 7, 2008
Aole, every society needs rules. Even under the Queen there were rules. Hawaiians lived under rules in the Kingdom, it was called "Kapu". In order to keep chaos from occuring rules, regulations, "kapu" were enacted to keep peace, discipline, and even keep people in there place.
Get Off Our Land wrote:
We don't need RULES about using Iolani Palace! The Queen gave us all the rights we need to be there. It's the haoles who use the word occupy.
Old Boy

Honolulu, HI

#7 Aug 7, 2008
If Queen Liliuokalani had her way, Hawaii would still be a kingdom and Iolani Palace would be primarily used for official matters. Public and private demonstrations, protest and other forms of assembly should remain outside of the palace grounds.
ahgung

Irvine, CA

#8 Aug 7, 2008
Old Boy wrote:
If Queen Liliuokalani had her way, Hawaii would still be a kingdom and Iolani Palace would be primarily used for official matters. Public and private demonstrations, protest and other forms of assembly should remain outside of the palace grounds.
DITTO drom a makule pake.
kls

Kailua, HI

#9 Aug 7, 2008
Get Off Our Land wrote:
We don't need RULES about using Iolani Palace! The Queen gave us all the rights we need to be there. It's the haoles who use the word occupy.
but you voted to become a state
so..........
Pork Lau Lau

San Diego, CA

#10 Aug 8, 2008
Bumpy for Governor.
your conscious

Honolulu, HI

#11 Aug 8, 2008
WE SHOULD MAKE RULES FOR THE IMMEDIATE DISMANTLING OF EVERY BUILDING, SYMBOL THAT WAS PLACED ONTO THE GROUNDS THAT WAS NOT FROM THE ORIGINAL PLANS, i.e. The BARRACKS WERE NEVER ON THE GROUNDS AS BOTH THE ARCHIVES AND OTHER BUILDINGS & THE PRESENT VEGETATION! IF WE WANT THIS TO BE REALLY TO PRESERVE THE HISTORIC & CULTURAL SIGNIFICANCE LET'S RESTORE THE ORIGINAL INFRASTRUTURES THAT WERE THERE BEFORE THE DESCERATION BY THE POST-'ALLEGED' OVERTHROW AND MILITARY OCCUPATION OF THE PALACE! I.e. THE WATER FEATURES, etc.,
LET'S REALLY DO IT RIGHT AND NOT JUST THINK ALONG THE 'COLONIZED' INTERPRETATION HOW THE ONLY "PALACE" ON ALLEGED UNITED STATES LANDS SHOULD LOOK LIKE TO APPEASE THE PSUEDO-COLONIZATION OF HAWAI'I!
THE PALACE GROUNDS IS SOVEREIGN NATIVE HAWAIIAN LANDS AND SHOULD REFLECT THAT AND THAT PERIOD!
AND FURTHER MORE, IF YOU DON'T HAVE THE SITE UP, Y IS IT POSTED AS A REFERENCE??!! I'VE CHK'D AS OF THIS WRITING AND IT AIN'T THERE!:
"The proposed rules are posted at www.hawaiistateparks.org/administrative/index... ;
IT'S NOT THERE!
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your conscious

Honolulu, HI

#12 Aug 8, 2008
Point of View wrote:
Authentic Palace?
Does that mean that Hawaii was a Kingdom?
Ahh, I guess if the "government" can regulate and take over Sadaams Palaces in Iraq, why not do the same with Iolani Palace in Hawaii.
Speaking of Sadaam ... didn't he tell G. Bush Sr. in 1991 that he would end the illegal occupation of Kuwait when the U.S. ends the illegal occupation of Hawaii?
Wow, what a trip. Kind of like a full circle.
Do you have that quote? I've been looking for that since it was said...very good analogy from Sadaam, but it falls on DEAF Ears!
your conscious

Honolulu, HI

#13 Aug 8, 2008
Vkp wrote:
I beg to differ with you, it may be symmantecs, however, Iolani Palace is a truly unique "Hawaiian" historical monument. It belongs to the people of Hawai'i, but I welcome visitors to know a part of the history it houses. Some happy and some not so, but history nevertheless.
<quoted text>
Definitely not the history of the Kanaka Maoli, but that of the Occupiers recollections and interpretations of their distorted history imposed on another country's...full of HALF-TRUTHS & fallicies!
your conscious

Honolulu, HI

#14 Aug 8, 2008
Old Boy wrote:
If Queen Liliuokalani had her way, Hawaii would still be a kingdom and Iolani Palace would be primarily used for official matters. Public and private demonstrations, protest and other forms of assembly should remain outside of the palace grounds.
Sorry THIS IS SOVEREIGN land and is the MOST APPROPRIATE venue for Kanaka Maoli to hold whateva event they chose...ON THE GROUNDS!
your conscious

Honolulu, HI

#15 Aug 8, 2008
kls wrote:
<quoted text>
but you voted to become a state
so..........
sooooooo...U need to do your homework!
See this is the kine of response expected from HALF-TRUTH history from the psuedo-colonizers. America CENSORED ALL versions of the truth and COERCED any who tried otherwise to expose their BLACK...or should i say WHITE misinterpretations of America's historical role in the 'alleged' overthrow of a peaceful and otherwise neutral independent 'State' amongst nations.
Pomaikaiokalani

AOL

#16 Aug 8, 2008
The Hawaii Supreme Court ruled in January 2008 that the Kanaka Maoli Hawaii have a claims to the lands of the the Public Land Trust. The lands of Iolani Palace are lands of the Public Land Trust. National lands that the Kanaka Maoli Hawaii have never reliquished our Inherent Sovereignty as a people. The lands of Iolani Palace belongs to the Kanaka Maoli Hawaii and not the general public. United States and the State of Hawaii have never compensetated the Kanaka Maoli Hawaii for the taking of their national lands of the Hawaiian Kingdom. Statehood for Hawaii was a Fraud.
Tane

Aiea, HI

#17 Aug 18, 2008
Point of View wrote:
<quoted text>
Please show me where your rights to use the palace stem from? Is there some official documentation or a transcript of a speech that gave these rights?
Mahalo nui loa in advance
There are all kinds of documents and speeches and journals that cn back that up. Do your homework.
Tane

Aiea, HI

#18 Aug 18, 2008
Old Boy wrote:
If Queen Liliuokalani had her way, Hawaii would still be a kingdom and Iolani Palace would be primarily used for official matters. Public and private demonstrations, protest and other forms of assembly should remain outside of the palace grounds.
What you say is not true. Protests and gatherings were done at the palace while the queen was still alive; why should it change?
Tane

Aiea, HI

#19 Aug 18, 2008
kls wrote:
<quoted text>
but you voted to become a state
so..........
Who told you that lie? U.S. Americans voted; not Hawaiian nationals citizens of the Hawaiian Kingdom.

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