Fluvanna May Extend Water Deadline

Fluvanna May Extend Water Deadline

There are 10 comments on the NBC29 Charlottesville story from Aug 19, 2010, titled Fluvanna May Extend Water Deadline. In it, NBC29 Charlottesville reports that:

Friday, Fluvanna supervisors will vote on extending a deadline for its water pipeline project with Louisa County.

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Fluvanna Fluco

Piney River, VA

#1 Aug 19, 2010
YOu need to go ahead as we keep falling further and further behind the other counties -- and we're not going to improve or get any businesses if you don't get off your bottoms and do something to help the county and the people who live there.
former N Y

Charlottesville, VA

#2 Aug 19, 2010
We are behind Louisa in a lot of ways,,but could someone tell me who has voted or does vote against business coming into FLuvanna. If it is the BoS then is not it their fault we are behind???? There is a sign on Route 53 going toward Charlottesville that states we should buy in Fluvanna,,,well I would but exceptfor resturants,hair studios,and food lions I can not buy some things (actually most) of the things I need in Fluvanna,,whose fault is that.
I do buy from my local hardware store but they can not stock everything needed. I,of course do not blame them for that.
If I need clothing I either have to go to Louisa Walmart (which I have found does not carry a large variety of clothing) or go to Charlottesville. I am sorry if I sound as though I do not living ihn FLuvanna but I do feel we need more stores.
still here

United States

#3 Aug 19, 2010
having lived in Fluvanna and Louisa and paid taxes in both, I can honestly say - Give me Louisa. Even though the Louisa BoS make me furious, they do seem to have the pulse on economics and Fluvanna seems to want to keep their rural culture more. While I can appreciate that, you still need to get ewith the program. If you have n businesses to support you economically then you will tax your citizens to death and your Fancy Fluco high school will flop and Louisa EMS will continue to not just cover 80% of your calls but maybe the whole 100. One lady said Fluvanna just had enough for esssentials. Since when is water not essential?
T fromTroy

Hiram, GA

#4 Aug 20, 2010
Oh, it is about time. Maybe now, the BOS with get off their high horses and do something practical and effective for Fluvanna. They are worse than a group of kindergarteners trying to make a decision over something.
But all the water in the world is not going to help if the BOS remain closed minded about businesses coming to Fluvanna.
It would be so nice not to have to drive to Charlottesville, Richmond or even Waynesboro to do your shopping and find a good restaurant.
T fromTroy

Hiram, GA

#5 Aug 20, 2010
Well it is about time they started acting responsively. Nothing like missing a deadline and then trying to back paddle and make headway.
But the sad thing is, no amount of water will do any good if the BOS do not keep an open mind about businesses coming to Fluvanna.
It would be so nice to not have to go to Richmond, Charlottesville or even Waynesboro to do our shopping and to have a choice of various restaurants.
The few merchants that are there now are doing a very good job with their inventories but it is just not enough.
Concerned Troy Residents

Charlottesville, VA

#6 Aug 20, 2010
T fromTroy wrote:
Well it is about time they started acting responsively. Nothing like missing a deadline and then trying to back paddle and make headway.
But the sad thing is, no amount of water will do any good if the BOS do not keep an open mind about businesses coming to Fluvanna.
It would be so nice to not have to go to Richmond, Charlottesville or even Waynesboro to do our shopping and to have a choice of various restaurants.
The few merchants that are there now are doing a very good job with their inventories but it is just not enough.
If you actually expect these type of positive businesses that actually brings jobs, give back to the community, and provide sorely lacking services to those that live in the area and throughout the county you are sorely mistaken. Take a drive along Route 250 East and West of Zions Crossroads and tell us what you see. That's right industrial blight! There is a lot of land for sale along the Route 250 corridor that is zoned I-1 which is industrial, some business zoning, but none commercial. Industrial zoning does not include restaurants, grocery stores, clothing stores, etc... Industrial zoning includes but not limited to: trash facilities, big contractor rental stores, those that provide services to contractors, those that ruin the peace and quiet of those who reside in the area, crumbling infrastructure, safety concerns along the road, etc.... Just take a drive along Route 250 West of Zions Crossroads and look for yourself. The road west of Zions was paved early this summer but they have had to repaint the lines already. Then, get on I-64 exchange at Boyds Tavern and you will see and feel the road buckeling from the weight of these heavy, noisy trucks. You can guess their destination--not providing anything in Fluvanna! This exchange was paved a couple of years ago but you wouldn't know it by looking. Be careful what you ask/wish for. There are more costs involved with this project then you realize for which there is no money to pay for these items: pipeline itself, right away acquisition, sewer costs, road infrastructure improvement costs, etc... Who will pay for all of this--you guessed it the taxpayers!
Civility

Palmyra, VA

#7 Aug 20, 2010
Concerned Troy Residents wrote:
<quoted text>
If you actually expect these type of positive businesses that actually brings jobs, give back to the community, and provide sorely lacking services to those that live in the area and throughout the county you are sorely mistaken. Take a drive along Route 250 East and West of Zions Crossroads and tell us what you see. That's right industrial blight! There is a lot of land for sale along the Route 250 corridor that is zoned I-1 which is industrial, some business zoning, but none commercial. Industrial zoning does not include restaurants, grocery stores, clothing stores, etc... Industrial zoning includes but not limited to: trash facilities, big contractor rental stores, those that provide services to contractors, those that ruin the peace and quiet of those who reside in the area, crumbling infrastructure, safety concerns along the road, etc.... Just take a drive along Route 250 West of Zions Crossroads and look for yourself. The road west of Zions was paved early this summer but they have had to repaint the lines already. Then, get on I-64 exchange at Boyds Tavern and you will see and feel the road buckeling from the weight of these heavy, noisy trucks. You can guess their destination--not providing anything in Fluvanna! This exchange was paved a couple of years ago but you wouldn't know it by looking. Be careful what you ask/wish for. There are more costs involved with this project then you realize for which there is no money to pay for these items: pipeline itself, right away acquisition, sewer costs, road infrastructure improvement costs, etc... Who will pay for all of this--you guessed it the taxpayers!
I am intensely curious as to how you believe the lack of reliable water is going to attract the "restaurants, grocery stores, clothing stores, etc..." that you would like instead of the "industrial blight" that you so frequently decry.

You are clearly convinced that reliable water will bring "industrial blight." Please help us all understand how the refusal to build modern water infrastructure will bring attractive commercial development and improve the quality of life for Fluvanna. Your arguments against the pipeline are sincere, but I am struggling with how your vision of the alternative is a superior outcome.

Thanks in advance for you clear, lucid, and convincing explaination.
Concerned Troy Residents

Charlottesville, VA

#8 Aug 20, 2010
Civility wrote:
<quoted text>
I am intensely curious as to how you believe the lack of reliable water is going to attract the "restaurants, grocery stores, clothing stores, etc..." that you would like instead of the "industrial blight" that you so frequently decry.
You are clearly convinced that reliable water will bring "industrial blight." Please help us all understand how the refusal to build modern water infrastructure will bring attractive commercial development and improve the quality of life for Fluvanna. Your arguments against the pipeline are sincere, but I am struggling with how your vision of the alternative is a superior outcome.
Thanks in advance for you clear, lucid, and convincing explaination.
I hope this makes things clear. Thank you for asking. Please feel free to drive down Route 250 East and West of Zions Crossroads and what businesses do you primarily see? Industry and more industry that primarly serves those that live outside of Fluvanna. You will see Route 250, past Beaverdam Baptist Church, that was just paved and lines painted early this summer. Just last week the lines were repainted because of all these heavy industrial vehicles that use Route 250 rather than I-64 at Zions Crossroads to travel outside Fluvanna. They use the I-64 exchange at Boyds Tavern to serve primarly those outside of Fluvanna. The exchange was just paved several years ago, has already been patched, but still continues to crumble from the weight. You can imagine what we hear from 6:30 in the morning until 8:00 at night, 6 days a week. The area is saturated with this we don't need anymore. Also, the majority of the property that is for sale along Route 250 is zoned I-1, industrial which allows more of the same that is already at Zions i.e. trash facilities and associated trucks/storage containers, propane tanks, lumber yards, concrete facilites, etc.. This is what Fluvanna has planned for the entire area, per Zoning and the Comprehensive Plan, and this is why we are opposed to any water for Zions Crossroads. We are trying to protect the beauty of our area and the quality of home our life i.e. road safety, peace and quiet, property value, etc. I have lived in the area all of my life and it has changed for the worse. Before we figured this out, we thought water would be a good idea thinking may be we would finally get a grocery store (other than Walmart) and other businesses like the Lake that are sorely laking in our area (only Beaverdam Market for shopping) but after they approved of this stuff and revised the comprehensive plan the positive commercial and other businesses that the community wants and needs would be out of their mind to locate near industrial blight. So, in summary, industrial blight brings more industrial blight plus more and more associated costs for taxpayers. In order to stop it we need to cut the water plans off! I would rather have nothing than take a chance with more industry. Some citizens want land preseved and we admire them for that. We work and are closer to Charlottesville and don't mind traveling and spending our money there. The Lake is just too far away for us.
Wake Up Troy

Ferrum, VA

#9 Aug 20, 2010
Concerned Troy Residents wrote:
<quoted text>
I hope this makes things clear. Thank you for asking. Please feel free to drive down Route 250 East and West of Zions Crossroads and what businesses do you primarily see? Industry and more industry that primarly serves those that live outside of Fluvanna. You will see Route 250, past Beaverdam Baptist Church, that was just paved and lines painted early this summer. Just last week the lines were repainted because of all these heavy industrial vehicles that use Route 250 rather than I-64 at Zions Crossroads to travel outside Fluvanna. They use the I-64 exchange at Boyds Tavern to serve primarly those outside of Fluvanna. The exchange was just paved several years ago, has already been patched, but still continues to crumble from the weight. You can imagine what we hear from 6:30 in the morning until 8:00 at night, 6 days a week. The area is saturated with this we don't need anymore. Also, the majority of the property that is for sale along Route 250 is zoned I-1, industrial which allows more of the same that is already at Zions i.e. trash facilities and associated trucks/storage containers, propane tanks, lumber yards, concrete facilites, etc.. This is what Fluvanna has planned for the entire area, per Zoning and the Comprehensive Plan, and this is why we are opposed to any water for Zions Crossroads. We are trying to protect the beauty of our area and the quality of home our life i.e. road safety, peace and quiet, property value, etc. I have lived in the area all of my life and it has changed for the worse. Before we figured this out, we thought water would be a good idea thinking may be we would finally get a grocery store (other than Walmart) and other businesses like the Lake that are sorely laking in our area (only Beaverdam Market for shopping) but after they approved of this stuff and revised the comprehensive plan the positive commercial and other businesses that the community wants and needs would be out of their mind to locate near industrial blight. So, in summary, industrial blight brings more industrial blight plus more and more associated costs for taxpayers. In order to stop it we need to cut the water plans off! I would rather have nothing than take a chance with more industry. Some citizens want land preseved and we admire them for that. We work and are closer to Charlottesville and don't mind traveling and spending our money there. The Lake is just too far away for us.
So your answer to Civility's question is that no water means the industrial blight remains that you hate so much, but nothing comes in and it doesn't improve anything?!?!?!?!?! That is your plan?!?!?!
Concerned Troy Residents

Stuart, VA

#10 Aug 20, 2010
Wake Up Troy wrote:
<quoted text>
So your answer to Civility's question is that no water means the industrial blight remains that you hate so much, but nothing comes in and it doesn't improve anything?!?!?!?!?! That is your plan?!?!?!
You are correct. One Board representative told me when we were complaining about debris flying in our yard from big, overloaded, speeding, trash trucks going to destinations outside of Fluvanna, they said "The trash facilities aren't going anywhere and we can't stop them from taking Route 250." So it is nothing we can do about what's already there but to send e-mails that aren't responded to by most of our representation and by expressing our opinions on forums like this. Plus, when we did call they stated that they were going out-of-town, would not be present at the meeting, and the business had already been approved anyway. This was before the official meeting even took place! This is why we are so frustrated with Fluvanna County government! You only know these things if you live in the area. We are the minority voting population in the entire county and the rest of the county has no idea what is going on in Fluvanna's west side of Zions. So, they put all of this bull s*** on our end of the county. Have you driven down Route 250 West and seen the eye sore orange containers and debris along the road? It is absolutely ugly and an eye sore! Route 250 just west of Zions that small portion was not constructed correctly, safely, and in a straight, smooth manner. If someone was traveling from out-of-town in the dark and didn't know the road then it is possible they could run off the road. Who in their right mind would want to open up a commercial business next to or across from these type of facilities and on a portion of the road where there is not proper road infrastruture in place?! Industrial blight and commerical businsses don't mix. Do you see this on Louisa's side? May be by getting the word out and if enough people got behind us then may be something can be changed. Industrial blight breeds more of it. Too much for the good, commercial businesses to overtake. Plus, Fluvanna doesn't want any good businesses that would acutally benefit our part of the County. There is absolutely nothing that we can write home about as far as a premiere destination. Officials only want industry, the zoning of current land for sale along Route 250 (which is a lot) is mostly zoned industry, and what do you expect will come in--you guessed it industry. The only way it would change would be for officials to change all of the zoning from industrial to commercial and that will never happen, per current zoning and the comprehensive plan. Leave the good development to Louisa County since they know what they are doing. Leave our side of the County alone! So there you have it ladies and gentleman!

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