Tellico Village ordered to turn over ...

Tellico Village ordered to turn over documents related to commu...

There are 131 comments on the The Knoxville News-Sentinel story from Apr 10, 2010, titled Tellico Village ordered to turn over documents related to commu.... In it, The Knoxville News-Sentinel reports that:

A Loudon County judge has ordered the Tellico Village Property Owners Association to turn over records related to the operation of the community to two residents who filed an open records suit in July 2009.

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Johnny B

Rock Island, TN

#1 Apr 10, 2010
Getting Scott Mccluen out of office didn't get Low-down County's crooks a free ride after all. Is it true he could do more to them now than when he was DA?
second son

Knoxville, TN

#2 Apr 11, 2010
This case is just getting started. There's a reason the POA wants to keep certain documents hidden. The first thing Anklin and Hutcherson will notice is how many documents are missing. The POA has had a year to try and hide things. They are going to have to explain why the documents are not available and that itself will tell volumes about what's been going on at the Village.
crookedlilcounty

Crossville, TN

#3 Apr 11, 2010
Yeah, but just ask Aikens, it doesn't matter if they know what WAS there, once it's "missing" it doesn't get to go to court.
GMTA

AOL

#4 Apr 11, 2010
crookedlilcounty wrote:
Yeah, but just ask Aikens, it doesn't matter if they know what WAS there, once it's "missing" it doesn't get to go to court.
What about fraud? That is against the law and if it's proven, that's a whole other issue. If funds and credit cards were used for personal gain, then that's fraud. But if the funds were just spent unwisely, can't recover those I wouldn't think. This is going to get more interesting, but I'm sure also more maddening. Meanwhile, where's Bud? No comments?
Bud

Loudon, TN

#5 Apr 11, 2010
GMTA wrote:
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What about fraud? That is against the law and if it's proven, that's a whole other issue. If funds and credit cards were used for personal gain, then that's fraud. But if the funds were just spent unwisely, can't recover those I wouldn't think. This is going to get more interesting, but I'm sure also more maddening. Meanwhile, where's Bud? No comments?
What fraud? Funds and credit cards are used all the time for personal gains,and sometimes unwisely. Have you ever lost any money in the stock market or on the ponies. Sure it will get more intresting, and I will make a lot more money. As long as those fools on the Board want to pay me, I will take their money. What would you have me do. Quit my good paying job as a Lawyer.

I give good advise for what I charge. That is all that I am obligated to do. They have asked me to provide an opinion on another subject, but they are already telling me what they want to do. They did not ask for me for legal advise, only to make legal what they want to do. I can do that in some cases by using an insanity defense when we get to court. Most of these Board members have the same intelligence as children with a 4th grade education. If they worked for a major company, and achieved executive status, they were sombody's yes man, and sucked up just long enough to make it out without being fired for incompentance. Never an original thought from any of them. All whiners and not a one of them knows anything about business law. You tell me how that happened to these self appointed experts and business managers that claimed they were great, and could guide you to great wealth by buying a house in the Village and playing golf.

Nuts! That the Fraud!
GMTA

AOL

#6 Apr 11, 2010
Bud wrote:
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What fraud? Funds and credit cards are used all the time for personal gains,and sometimes unwisely. Have you ever lost any money in the stock market or on the ponies. Sure it will get more intresting, and I will make a lot more money. As long as those fools on the Board want to pay me, I will take their money. What would you have me do. Quit my good paying job as a Lawyer.
I give good advise for what I charge. That is all that I am obligated to do. They have asked me to provide an opinion on another subject, but they are already telling me what they want to do. They did not ask for me for legal advise, only to make legal what they want to do. I can do that in some cases by using an insanity defense when we get to court. Most of these Board members have the same intelligence as children with a 4th grade education. If they worked for a major company, and achieved executive status, they were sombody's yes man, and sucked up just long enough to make it out without being fired for incompentance. Never an original thought from any of them. All whiners and not a one of them knows anything about business law. You tell me how that happened to these self appointed experts and business managers that claimed they were great, and could guide you to great wealth by buying a house in the Village and playing golf.
Nuts! That the Fraud!
These are ramblings. Parts are correct. Yes, Bud can give advice. It doesn't have to be taken. Who knows what advice he gave and what directives he was given by the POA. Doesn't matter now I guess. What does matter is that if any credit card charges were made to purchase personal items or funds were spent for personal use- and I'm not just talking a lunch at the diner, then that is against the law. Period. People get arrested and sentenced for this all of the time. Follow the money- get statments from the banks and credit card companies. Only so many files can get 'lost' and there are so many other ways to retrieve info these days.
Isis Johnson

Knoxville, TN

#7 Apr 11, 2010
Hint: follow the tractor invoices...

Follow the fuel invoices...
Voter

AOL

#8 Apr 12, 2010
Boy it's bout time, the POA can sure waste our money for a year, now maybe we will find out why.
Bud

Loudon, TN

#9 Apr 12, 2010
GMTA wrote:
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These are ramblings. Parts are correct. Yes, Bud can give advice. It doesn't have to be taken. Who knows what advice he gave and what directives he was given by the POA. Doesn't matter now I guess. What does matter is that if any credit card charges were made to purchase personal items or funds were spent for personal use- and I'm not just talking a lunch at the diner, then that is against the law. Period. People get arrested and sentenced for this all of the time. Follow the money- get statments from the banks and credit card companies. Only so many files can get 'lost' and there are so many other ways to retrieve info these days.
Thats just great and means nothing. The Contractors, Material
Suppliers and Consultants are the ones with the credit cards and
expense accounts you are looking for to build a fraud case. You will find nothing. The Watchdogs will be discredited for being troublemakers and making false statements. I will win. Take my advise, you should never make a case based on someones elses statements that cannot be verified and proven, before you have the evidence in hand. This is a civil case not a crimminal case. They already attemped that and it failed. There is only one person that works for POA that knows where all the bodies are buried. It is not me and it is not the GM,dumb ass.
Bud

Loudon, TN

#10 Apr 12, 2010
Voter wrote:
Boy it's bout time, the POA can sure waste our money for a year, now maybe we will find out why.
Not likely. You are still looking in the wrong place. Betting on the wrong horse. The Watchdogs started this, I will finish it and they will lose. There is no case. Only in their minds. They chase smoke and find nothing. The watchdogs have wasted your money, not me. If you don't want me involved, then make sure that I am not needed. My rate is $325 per hour. I only do Pro Bono cases where there is an insanity defense that is provable.
Isis Johnson

Knoxville, TN

#11 Apr 12, 2010
Bud wrote:
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Not likely. You are still looking in the wrong place. Betting on the wrong horse. The Watchdogs started this, I will finish it and they will lose. There is no case. Only in their minds. They chase smoke and find nothing. The watchdogs have wasted your money, not me. If you don't want me involved, then make sure that I am not needed. My rate is $325 per hour. I only do Pro Bono cases where there is an insanity defense that is provable.
If there is nothing to hide why did the POA try so hard to keep the documents secret?

I'm just a poor old woman who cleans house for people at the Village but I knows whats up when I hear the Massa saying he be scared of them watchdogs.
Jeannie Pilgrim

AOL

#12 Apr 12, 2010
Bud wrote:
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Not likely. You are still looking in the wrong place. Betting on the wrong horse. The Watchdogs started this, I will finish it and they will lose. There is no case. Only in their minds. They chase smoke and find nothing. The watchdogs have wasted your money, not me. If you don't want me involved, then make sure that I am not needed. My rate is $325 per hour. I only do Pro Bono cases where there is an insanity defense that is provable.
First of all your spelling is atrocious. You do not give advise - you are suppose to give advice. Also, if you are looking for an insanity case - take a look in the mirror.
GMTA

AOL

#13 Apr 12, 2010
Bud wrote:
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Thats just great and means nothing. The Contractors, Material
Suppliers and Consultants are the ones with the credit cards and
expense accounts you are looking for to build a fraud case. You will find nothing. The Watchdogs will be discredited for being troublemakers and making false statements. I will win. Take my advise, you should never make a case based on someones elses statements that cannot be verified and proven, before you have the evidence in hand. This is a civil case not a crimminal case. They already attemped that and it failed. There is only one person that works for POA that knows where all the bodies are buried. It is not me and it is not the GM,dumb ass.
You are silly. Of course it makes sense to follow the money. Think the contractors are working as a favor? I do agree with you on one thing, yes, base a case on facts. I'll do that just as soon as the bank statements, credit cards, cleared checks and paid vouchers are turned over. Oh, thinking of burning some of those paid bills? Hmmm..what will you do about the cleared checks that the bank keeps on file for months and months? Hmm...we paid X to such and such..next stop...the records of who got paid. If they are reputable, then they will cooperate without court enforcement. I know a little something about law myself.
whoda

United States

#14 Apr 12, 2010
Jeannie Pilgrim wrote:
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First of all your spelling is atrocious. You do not give advise - you are suppose to give advice. Also, if you are looking for an insanity case - take a look in the mirror.
The word is SUPPOSED. You need a comma after "first of all." Stop being critical of others.
GMTA

AOL

#15 Apr 12, 2010
whoda wrote:
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The word is SUPPOSED. You need a comma after "first of all." Stop being critical of others.
Where the heck is Wheeling Il?
whoda

United States

#16 Apr 12, 2010
GMTA wrote:
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Where the heck is Wheeling Il?
Far from Loudon, TN in many ways. Very close in others.
Curious

Maryville, TN

#17 Apr 12, 2010
Haven't heard from the old hag "Marilyn Mazzeo" lately. Hopefully she is out of town or moved. Couldn't get that lucky. She writes all the lies about the POA employees.
GMTA

AOL

#18 Apr 13, 2010
Curious wrote:
Haven't heard from the old hag "Marilyn Mazzeo" lately. Hopefully she is out of town or moved. Couldn't get that lucky. She writes all the lies about the POA employees.
Which POA employees? Can you name them for me pleaase since you are naming Marilyn? Only seems fair. I don't want to believe lies about the wrong people, so let's have their names.
Call to action

United States

#19 Apr 14, 2010
Blazer and POA are putting pressure on the editor of the Knoxville News Sentinel to censor the news about the recent court ruling that orders POA to release documents requested by 2 dues paying members who filed suit to force POA to obey the law which requires all POAs to make all records available to all members within 5 days of receiving a written request. Employees report that they are being pressured to write letters to the News Sentinel to protest the recent article. Everyone who is concerned about members having to file a law suit to force POA to obey the law, and about our POA dues being spent on legal fees to defend POA's efforts to delay and obstruct the release of requested documents, should contact the News Sentinel at [email protected] and express your outrage. Be sure to include you phone number as the News Sentinel verifies the identity of the writers of all letters published. All of you who have been wanting to know what you can do, this is your chance.
Willie Nillie

Elizabethton, TN

#20 Apr 18, 2010
If they are putting pressure on the News Sentinel editor it looks like they already got there way with the Loudon County paper. I just looked at that new site the Loudon County Citizen. There is an article about how the News Herald did not cover the story at all.

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