LA County police to merge with Sherif...

LA County police to merge with Sheriff's Department

There are 27 comments on the Daily Breeze story from Dec 15, 2009, titled LA County police to merge with Sheriff's Department. In it, Daily Breeze reports that:

The Los Angeles County Board of Supervisors today agreed to merge county police with the Sheriff's Department.

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Huh

United States

#1 Dec 15, 2009
What sort of nut case orgainzational fossil was this anyway and why did this take so long?
dear huh

Salt Lake City, UT

#2 Dec 16, 2009
You Sir, have merely exposed your ignorance. The Los Angeles County Police/Office of Public Safety, was a fine organization with a history of pride and professionalism.
The men and women of the County Police provided a vital service to the public, and will continue to do so as an integral part of the Los Angeles County Sheriff's department.
Not Good

Anaheim, CA

#3 Dec 19, 2009
dear huh wrote:
You Sir, have merely exposed your ignorance. The Los Angeles County Police/Office of Public Safety, was a fine organization with a history of pride and professionalism.
The men and women of the County Police provided a vital service to the public, and will continue to do so as an integral part of the Los Angeles County Sheriff's department.
You are mistaken.... I deal with county police on a regular basis and they are clueless but we, the LASD with have to train them.
GFL

Covina, CA

#4 Dec 20, 2009
As you all know, most of County Police officers are not qualified to be Deputies and some of them or maybe majority of them will be demoted to Sheriff security officers or custody assistants. It's good that they merge with Sheriff's Dept. The county will save a lot of money by absorbing the glorified security officers ( county police).
What

Burbank, CA

#5 Dec 21, 2009
Only low class people go online to put down an entire group of people. I hope this is not the writings of civilians who have no right to judge something they know nothing about.
I also hope this is not cops who should have better things to do than this and should know better than to lower LE down to this level.
Real cops don't sit around talking like school kids about who is in the club or not. Hiding behind a computer.
I google County Police / Sheriff merger to find some real news on the issue and this trash pops up.
Whatever

Anaheim, CA

#6 Dec 23, 2009
Hey, low class person, then what are you doing? hahahahahha
Anthony Rosales

Riverside, CA

#7 Dec 23, 2009
Regarding the merger of the Los Angeles County Police (OPS) into the Sheriff's Dept.: an indept review of the political issues guiding this process is in order. One needs to consider the very history of noted plans in 1992 & 1997 to merger the agencies. The CEO of Los Angeles County seems either ill informed or purposely evasive in that the officers of the Office of Public Safety (County Police) recieved their P.O.S.T. certification AT the Sheriff's Academy as do it's own deputies. Although at one time the OPS officers were trained as "limited status" peace officers with the design that the course WOULD NOT afford them the all vital POST Certification. In any case, the percieved demeaning reference to the Rio Hondo Police Academy in Whittier which also trains officers from various agencies through out the state of California, including at one time, exclusivly, the former L.A County Marshall's Department recruits, who were themselves merged into the LASD, trainees become P.O.S.T Certified, recieving no different a certificate than do graduates from the LASD to the best of anyone's knowlege. The Rio Hondo Police Academy is in effect a competitor for the monies paid by the aforementioned agencies to have their recruits trained. If the CEO or any executive of the Sheriff's Dept. were indirectly inpling that some how trainees from substandard is pure and simple non-sense. Thiis likely another frattish jab at the process of merging these officers into the LSAD.
Say What

Buena Park, CA

#8 Dec 25, 2009
Mr Rosales (above) is conveniently leaving out the part about the old-timers who were hired during the time when part of OPS was known as "Safety Police". In those days, people were hired with no background screening, no psychological exams, no oral interview, and with relaxed physical standards. That they cobbled together enough post-approved training at a shake-n-bake academy in the intervening years doesn't change much. The LASD have every right to scrutinize them now.

And I'm not even including those who have disciplinary action on top of disciplinary action...

Everyone else, however, should have no problem coming over.
Middle Man

Riverside, CA

#9 Feb 18, 2010
This blog contains the opinions of those who either believe the officers of the LACOPS are qualified to be deputy sheriffs and those who believe they are not. This argument occurs every time an agency is absorbed by a larger agency.

What all of you need to remember is regardless of which agency LASD absorbs, the officers of the absorbed agency must meet certain standards.

Several agencies throughout Southern California have been absorbed by larger agencies over the past decades. Some of the officers were qualified, and some were disqualified through the process. LASD deputies who try and lateral to other agencies are also disqualified, just like other applicants from other agencies. Regardless of the source of personnel, the absorbing agency must ensure each applicant meets appropriate standards.

The benefit of the consolidation is obliviously financial and will afford LASD access to qualified officers, many who attended the LASD academy and other certified academies.
MAD IN COVINA

West Covina, CA

#10 Nov 12, 2010
MOST OF YOU HAVE NO IDEA OF ALL THE TRAINING LACOPS GET, THEY ARE ALL P.O.S.T. CERTIFIED AS ANY OTHER POLICE OFFICERS OF CITY OR COUNTY. RIO HONDO POLICE ACADEMY IS ONE OF THE FINEST ACADEMIES IN WHICH MANY CITY POLICE HAVE GRADUATED FROM PLUS SPECIALIZED POLICE TRAINING IN MANY OTHER FIELDS. TOO MANY OF YOU JUDGE BEFORE YOU EVEN KNOW WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT! READ UP ON ALL THEIR ACADEMIC TRAING BEFORE YOU JUDGE!!!!
FAIL

United States

#11 Jan 12, 2011
MAD IN COVINA wrote:
MOST OF YOU HAVE NO IDEA OF ALL THE TRAINING LACOPS GET, THEY ARE ALL P.O.S.T. CERTIFIED AS ANY OTHER POLICE OFFICERS OF CITY OR COUNTY. RIO HONDO POLICE ACADEMY IS ONE OF THE FINEST ACADEMIES IN WHICH MANY CITY POLICE HAVE GRADUATED FROM PLUS SPECIALIZED POLICE TRAINING IN MANY OTHER FIELDS. TOO MANY OF YOU JUDGE BEFORE YOU EVEN KNOW WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT! READ UP ON ALL THEIR ACADEMIC TRAING BEFORE YOU JUDGE!!!!
OPS got disbanded last summer, and many of those POST certified cops failed to make the grade during the merger with LASD. So much for that...

Nice try though....
Olddbiggyone

Cypress, CA

#12 Feb 11, 2011
I was hired in 1983 as a LA County Safety Police Officer.
I had to pass a full LA County Sheriff's Back-Ground check
I went and passed 832PC POST Training at Rio Hondo Academy
We were mainly hire to replace the LA County Sheriff Officers in the county building so they could be free for added duty because the 1984 Olympics, After the Olympics we were kept on because of the money we saved the County, because we were cheaper the the Sheriff Dept. Later we were expanded to cover other County Facilities and started making money for the County, because we coat less that the Sheriffs
I retired in 1993, At the time I was hired, we served the needs for LA County...
The Department changed, They started hiring People with full POST training, They changed there name to COUNTY POLICE. They merged the Parks, Hospital, and ISD departments to form the LA County Police Unit. They took the County to court over Rank and pay. They won, and became the Professional Police Department they wanted to be.
Welcome to The Sheriff's Department!
Be carfull for what you wish for?
Olddbiggyone

Cypress, CA

#13 Feb 11, 2011
Revised posting

I was hired in 1983 as a LA County Safety Police Officer.
I had to pass a full LA County Sheriff's Back-Ground check
I went and passed 832PC POST Training at Rio Hondo Academy

We were mainly hire to replace the LA County Sheriff Officers in the county building so they could be free for added duty because the 1984 Olympics, After the Olympics we were kept on because of the money we saved the County, because we were cheaper the the Sheriff Dept. Later we were expanded to cover other County Facilities and started making money for the County, because we coat less that the Sheriffs



I retired in 1993, At the time I was hired, we served the needs for LA County...

The Department changed, In 1998, the Los Angeles County Park Police (Departments of Parks and Recreation) and the Safety Police (Departments of Health Services and Internal Services) merged to begin operating as the Los Angeles County Office of Public Safety or Los Angeles County Police.

They started hiring People with full POST training, They changed there name to Los Angeles County Police. On August 8, 2007, the California State Supreme Court denied hearing the appeal of a fraudulent discrimination lawsuit brought by County police officers. The officers prevailed at trial, convincing a jury that the predominantly minority force had been denied appropriate pay and benefits due to racial discrimination,

They won, and became the Professional Police Department they wanted to be.

Welcome to The Sheriff's Department

Be carefully for what you wish for?
I was there

Los Angeles, CA

#14 May 13, 2011
Olddbiggyone wrote:
The officers prevailed at trial, convincing a jury that the predominantly minority force had been denied appropriate pay and benefits due to racial discrimination,
They won, and became the Professional Police Department they wanted to be.
No, it was yet another silly lawsuit about "racism!" and this suit was lost on appeal. Of COURSE "County Police" was a mostly minority agency...it had started out as a security force and was still a second-string agency. And California has been largely "minority" for several years now. "LA County Guard" as it was originally known, was a minority "set-aside" job, established for minorities. Most people don't know that.

Be careful what you wish for, indeed. 150 officers didn't get accepted at LASD; that right there belies your claim that it was a "professional police department"
outside man

Los Angeles, CA

#15 May 13, 2011
I found this post by accident- "my 2 cents". True the L.A. County Police, once the L.A. county Park Police, L.A. County Marina Patrol, and Safety Police agencies,did start off as " L.A. County guards".

For you "Pro deputy, everything else, inferior" types, it was pressure put on by LASD and the State that BROUGHT UP the standards to EQUAL to what you had to have to be a Deputy Sheriff trainee- SAME background and polygraph, same testing,,same physical standards, and a damn tough academy equal in many ways to LASD-STARS( Old Rio Hondo Police academy) and way TOUGHER and academically stronger than LAPD academy

what I find funny about the so-called "lower stadards" is that many Depts hire people who,incidentally are often TURNED down on first try by other agencies they apply for,including the LASD. Its all academic now, because "YES ",LA CO.PD officers did win their initial law suit- but lost on appeal when it was shown that they could have transferred(lateralled) away from L.A. Co.PD to LASD or other agencies if pay was the main issue. L.A. County PD officers were STUPID to disband their union ,thinking they would be "taken care of" by their LASD brethren. The result was a massacre of nearly 60% being D.Q'd- some over chicken"shizz" reasons- I know of one 13 yr LA Co.Cop- now a 38 YR OLD lAPD P-I TRAINEE- WHO WAS dq'D BY lASD BECAUSE HE HAD A IA COMPLAINT OVER 10 YRS ago FROM HIS EX WIFE OVER A CHILD CUSTODY ARGUMENT- YEAH "10 yrs ago"- no criminal filing, nothing. Lest some of you LASD philes and Deps forget ,there are PLENTY of Deputies on the job with "questionable"( the old 10-35 R) backgrounds, and PLENTY with SERIOUS misd. convictions STILL on the job( Deomstic violence plea bargains, multiple DUIs, gun brandishing, solicitation of sex arrests,etc- they couldn't get a LE job anywhere else, if they had to leave LASD- YEt they want to run around and BRAG that they wear the "star" and are SUPERIOR to those who wore the "Bear' badge-

I find it disrespectful to run down people- some who are working today as Deputies. civilian custody assistants, and even police officers elsewhere- a few went over to LAUSDPD and one went to the LA City equilvalent of LA Co.PD- L.A. General Services PD, because they worked a dept with limited ,specific LE duties. I know of a lot of LA County Cops who "hung it out there" everyday, like any other LEO in this state, and many of you deps had them backing you up on calls, even though they MADE LESS money and your people LOOKED down on them. They STOPPED criminals,served the public, kept our county parks and facilities safe, and even pulled a drunk driver or two- who could've KILLED a family member of you "superior" cops- off the road.

SHAME on you people in the public, and some of you here who are LEOs to rag on your once fellow brethren.Many of you had them in advanced AOT classes, many of you saw them daily booking dirtbags, dopers and felons in the jails along side of you, and you saw their patrol cars pushing down the same dark streets you did. 3 of them were MURDERED as a result of "wearing the bear badge" in a violent way, and several died years later as a result of exposure to environment, or job related injuries. I work for a MAJOR UNIVERSITY PD in west L.A. We hear that same "you guys aren't equal to us" BS sometimes from our local LASD and LAPD brethren- thank goodness we are CA. STATE police officers, don't give a crap about that BS,coming from "locals" and continue to do our jobs.

I only wish LA county PD officers- some who are at this moment engaged in a class action suit due to their job loss( probably won't win though)- had realized what they were asking for when they went up against the BOS and LASD in a bid to "be equal". and shame on you other LEOS for gloating over the loss of 400 + cops on the streets and parks of this county- it only makes the job harder for us all....
Six Nations

South Gate, CA

#17 May 20, 2011
I would just like to say that anyone involved in a lawsuit is a loser. This lawsuit has no merits and these people are just crybabies!
Robbed

Los Angeles, CA

#18 May 23, 2011
PPOA sucked as a union! That the LACPOA broad members for getting us mixed up with such a f*cked up union! LACPOA was covering its tracks from all of the illegal activity it was doing! They let PPOA sell us down the river during this "merger!"
PPOA

Oceanside, CA

#20 Sep 28, 2011
PPOA sucked!
FJ Dave

Phoenix, AZ

#21 Oct 16, 2011
Six Nations wrote:
I would just like to say that anyone involved in a lawsuit is a loser. This lawsuit has no merits and these people are just crybabies!
Now I am pretending to be Six!
actually incorrect

Los Angeles, CA

#22 Oct 22, 2011
Say What wrote:
Mr Rosales (above) is conveniently leaving out the part about the old-timers who were hired during the time when part of OPS was known as "Safety Police". In those days, people were hired with no background screening, no psychological exams, no oral interview, and with relaxed physical standards. That they cobbled together enough post-approved training at a shake-n-bake academy in the intervening years doesn't change much. The LASD have every right to scrutinize them now.
And I'm not even including those who have disciplinary action on top of disciplinary action...
Everyone else, however, should have no problem coming over.
I was hired in 1993 when it was known as "Safety Police". My background was checked to include credit and I had to complete a written + oral psychological exam which I passed. I remember some persons failing the psychological exam. I had to complete two oral interviews. The only thing that I agree was about the relaxed physical standards which didn't affect me anyway as I always maintained physical fitness. I attended OC POST refresher course at JW Airport and scored #2 amongst many cops with far more experience. I received a Basic Post Cert in 1995 and resigned in Spring 1996 disgusted with the disparate pay scale and became a stay home mom for my daughter for 10 years. I am also a USAF law enforcement Staff Sgt veteran (23 yrs old at discharge). However I did work alongside many that had zero business being security guards let alone Safety Police

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