Lewis County man charged with raping girl

Dec 15, 2012 Full story: The Post-Standard 29

They said Patrick J. Elliott, 37, raped a 14-year-old girl in the Village of Lyons Falls on Sunday.

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facts not fiction

Bronx, NY

#1 Dec 17, 2012
And they are wrong he has not been convicted of anything and doute he will when truth comes out.
what a joke

Bronx, NY

#2 Dec 17, 2012
The papers don't even know where he lives he is not a Lewis county man first lie rape OK better make sure u can back it up this time
rumors and gossip

Lowville, NY

#3 Dec 17, 2012
the local papers are an absolute joke. they print whatever they feel like without getting all of the facts first. no wonder newspapers are becoming a thing of the past.
Tolerance is a virtue

Cary, NC

#4 Dec 18, 2012
There are many men doing this to little girls around the area. Looks to be a pattern and from the sound of the posts, acceptable.

Mothers .... keep your children safe and talk to them before they find themselves in a situation that may have been avoided.
Tolerance is a virtue

Cary, NC

#5 Dec 18, 2012
Dec 3, 2012:

"According to State Police in Lowville, 29 year-old Daniel Rounds was arrested on November 28th, for having sexual contact with a girl under the age of 11."

Dec. 14, 2012:

"According to New York State Police, Frank J. Mann, 50, of Port Leyden has been charged with one count of predatory sexual assault against a child."

Dec 15, 2012:

They said Patrick J. Elliott, 37, raped a 14-year-old girl in the Village of Lyons Falls on Sunday.
Pedophiles Must Die

Lowville, NY

#6 Dec 19, 2012
Pat was originally from Lowville (not from birth but more or less), I knew him back in the day. He was weird then, and the fact that he raped a 14 year old shocks me. Especially since it was a girl. I'd heard he was gay, either way this is fukked up. I hope they beat the living crap out of him while he does his time. Scumbag, pedophile, worthless pile of shite.

Since: Dec 12

Boonville, NY

#7 Dec 19, 2012
Pat is a repeat offender he was a regestered sex offender when this happened so his neighbors might want to watch their little girls as well. From what I hear it run in his family and the apple 67don't fall far from the tree

Since: Dec 12

Boonville, NY

#8 Dec 19, 2012
facts not fiction wrote:
And they are wrong he has not been convicted of anything and doute he will when truth comes out.
he was convicted in Georgia and is on parole here and is a registered sex offender that is the truth .... but wait he claims he was innocent then too see a pattern forming
Um, hello?

Boonville, NY

#9 Jan 19, 2013
Tolerance is a virtue wrote:
There are many men doing this to little girls around the area. Looks to be a pattern and from the sound of the posts, acceptable.

Mothers .... keep your children safe and talk to them before they find themselves in a situation that may have been avoided.
I agree 100%
Tolerance is a virtue

Cary, NC

#10 Jan 21, 2013
About 12 years ago, before I moved up here, an acquaintance (an ex-South Lewis principal) told me about the magnitude of incest and child molesting going on in the local area. The cases were kept under wraps mainly because it was deemed "A family affair" (!?). I believe since these cases were not publicized, it had been seen somewhat acceptable within the community.

Recently, national media has brought attention to the severity of this crime. Over the past decade it looks as though outside influence has identified child sex an unacceptable practice. As a result of the sweeping media attention the local girls have been "educated" and are no longer afraid to come forward. Probably because of this latest Sandusky scandal local LEO have become more thorough in the investigations surrounding child predators, too.

Child sex offenders CAN NOT be rehabilitated. If someone goes after one little girl (or boy), there are or will be many other children molested by the same perpetrator. This is a fact.

Child predators gravitate to careers that supply them with the children. Adults wanting to hang out with kids should be a concern, especially one on one. This can happen not in only a school or church setting, but with the nice man just down the street or Uncle "Bob".

Once it's done, it's done. The deed will never be erased from the child's mind. Please don't ignore the signs. Please don't ignore what the children have to say.
Um, hello?

Boonville, NY

#11 Jan 21, 2013
Tolerance is a virtue wrote:
About 12 years ago, before I moved up here, an acquaintance (an ex-South Lewis principal) told me about the magnitude of incest and child molesting going on in the local area. The cases were kept under wraps mainly because it was deemed "A family affair" (!?). I believe since these cases were not publicized, it had been seen somewhat acceptable within the community.

Recently, national media has brought attention to the severity of this crime. Over the past decade it looks as though outside influence has identified child sex an unacceptable practice. As a result of the sweeping media attention the local girls have been "educated" and are no longer afraid to come forward. Probably because of this latest Sandusky scandal local LEO have become more thorough in the investigations surrounding child predators, too.

Child sex offenders CAN NOT be rehabilitated. If someone goes after one little girl (or boy), there are or will be many other children molested by the same perpetrator. This is a fact.

Child predators gravitate to careers that supply them with the children. Adults wanting to hang out with kids should be a concern, especially one on one. This can happen not in only a school or church setting, but with the nice man just down the street or Uncle "Bob".

Once it's done, it's done. The deed will never be erased from the child's mind. Please don't ignore the signs. Please don't ignore what the children have to say.
I don't think anyone could have said that better.
DUMB PEOPLE MAKE ME LAUGH

Philadelphia, NY

#13 Mar 17, 2013
Pedophiles Must Die wrote:
Pat was originally from Lowville (not from birth but more or less), I knew him back in the day. He was weird then, and the fact that he raped a 14 year old shocks me. Especially since it was a girl. I'd heard he was gay, either way this is fukked up. I hope they beat the living crap out of him while he does his time. Scumbag, pedophile, worthless pile of shite.
Really now you must not know shit about him funny how everyone just likes to start shit and tell lies. Just watch the papers and news you sill see who lied and WHO DIDNT.
bored

Richland, NY

#14 Mar 17, 2013
to be fair about this whole thing..there is also a rise of woman teachers becoming pedophiles. Its terrible any way you look at it. It does need to stop but it isnt just a male thing. The first question that comes to mind is why is it happening? Why is it on the rise? How can it be interupted and possibly stopped?
Tolerance is a Virtue

Cary, NC

#15 Mar 17, 2013
It is a disturbing trend.

This may seem over the top, but why don't school systems insist that teachers, or anyone that will be around students, pass a lie detector test? I know many companies give all sorts of test to potential candidates before they are hired i.e. drug tests at any company, personality tests for the sales force etc. They probably have some professions already taking lie detectors tests for potential candidates.

But, it won't happen for teachers any time soon.

(I hear you have to be a psychopath or sociopath in order to pass these tests and still be lying, so a lie detector test should weed out some, but not the worst. I think Sandusky fits this description.)
Just 4 Fun

Richland, NY

#16 Mar 18, 2013
with all the research done on pedophiles it has been concluded that pedophule are considered psychopaths because of the extreme narcissistic views they have. They tend to show no remorse for what they do also. Another survey they found is that most pedophiles are right handed. The rare left handed pedophile tends to be more violent. To date they have yet to find a pedophile who is ambidextrous. There isnt enough studies done to know for sure why this is. From what i understand there is being studies done why people who are left handed tend to be less prone to ADHD then right handed people when the ratio of left handed people and right handed people is growing closer to the same amount. One source i have read from which seems to be credible for how the pedophiles mind works is www.wings4help.tripod.com/id17.html

www.child-safety-for-parents.com/profile-of-a... is a good site for keeping your child safer from pedophiles. It isnt perfect but it has great tips.
Tolerance is a Virtue

Cary, NC

#17 Mar 18, 2013
Just 4 Fun, thanks for the links.

The first link hasn't worked for me, yet.

The second link was a very easy read with a bunch of imbedded links for additional reading.

I suggest everyone with kids read this second link.

People that work in an child-rich environment would also benefit from the material in this article!

The more eyes on our kids the better.
What a Dumb ASS

Philadelphia, NY

#18 Mar 20, 2013
pottymouth13368 wrote:
Pat is a repeat offender he was a regestered sex offender when this happened so his neighbors might want to watch their little girls as well. From what I hear it run in his family and the apple 67don't fall far from the tree
Pat is a level 1. do you know what that means? didn't think so. You don't seem to know shit about him however if a girl asked for sex around here and a man says NO then BOOM he reaped her. All he did is smoke cigs with both his cousins and since the whore was told NO she pulls this shit. Sad thing is kids learn from there mothers and her mom is yet another sad pic for a parent. She will be tried she aint a young lady she sleeps around like her mama her day is coming and hopefully next time she crys rape if she gets a next time no one believes her. Sad other innocent men have went to jail cause of her. Hell her dad, her moms boyfriend and people around her are all sex offenders so to her I guess lying about someone is ok. Well Look here it aint ok this time. Know your facts don't just run your dick sucker about shit u know nothing about. She is a lying horney slut like her mom.
Tell this to the LEOs

Cary, NC

#19 Mar 20, 2013
What a Dumb ASS wrote:
<quoted text>
Pat is a level 1. do you know what that means? didn't think so. You don't seem to know shit about him however if a girl asked for sex around here and a man says NO then BOOM he reaped her. All he did is smoke cigs with both his cousins and since the whore was told NO she pulls this shit. Sad thing is kids learn from there mothers and her mom is yet another sad pic for a parent. She will be tried she aint a young lady she sleeps around like her mama her day is coming and hopefully next time she crys rape if she gets a next time no one believes her. Sad other innocent men have went to jail cause of her. Hell her dad, her moms boyfriend and people around her are all sex offenders so to her I guess lying about someone is ok. Well Look here it aint ok this time. Know your facts don't just run your dick sucker about shit u know nothing about. She is a lying horney slut like her mom.
Where did you see "Pat", as you most affectionally call him, is a level 1 sex offender ??

This is quoted from the WDT, Dec 15, 2013 article:

"Lowville, NY -- State police charged a Lewis County man with second-degree rape and endangering the welfare of a child Friday.

They said Patrick J. Elliott, 37, raped a 14-year-old girl in the Village of Lyons Falls on Sunday.

Elliott was arraigned in Lowville and taken to the Lewis County jail in lieu of $15,000 bail. The rape charge is a FELONY. The child-endangerment charge a misdemeanor."

Patrick J. Elliot was 37 and his victim was 14!! Now read the definition from the NY State Rape Guidelines:

Rape in the 2nd Degree:

Second degree rape is considered a Class D felony and carries a POTENTIAL 7 YEARS BEHIND BARS. You could be facing this charge if the prosecution has reason to believe you:

1.had intercourse with someone who is mentally disabled or incapacitated and unable to give consent, or
2.you are over the age of 18 and your partner is less than 15 years old.

Please reference your source. Where did you see he was considered a level 1 sex offender? Supply your source and only then will I believe your first sentence. If you can't supply a reference then we can judge your subsequent sentences INCREDIBLE.

Thank you for bringing your opinion to my attention.
duhhh

Boonville, NY

#20 Mar 20, 2013
well first off we havnt seen december 2013.. good job tho...
Tolerance is a Virtue

Cary, NC

#21 Mar 20, 2013
Is there anything else you would like to add, duhhhh?

There IS one other thing I would like to mention at this time.

Are you familiar with the term "villianizing the victim". Well, it's the laziest, weakest and most deplorable defense one can use in rape cases. Look at all those adjectives the other poster uses. It wasn't really well thought out and totally see-through.

Even though I realize you were trying to discredit me -- I am glad you read my post thoroughly! Thanks.

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