Union College approved to begin nursi...

Union College approved to begin nursing program

There are 26 comments on the Middlesboro Daily News story from Jun 22, 2010, titled Union College approved to begin nursing program. In it, Middlesboro Daily News reports that:

The former Knox County Hospital building will be fully repurposed and rehabilitated by 2012.

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Since: Mar 10

Somerset, KY

#21 Jul 8, 2010
A RN wrote:
The problem I see with Union's Rn-BSN Program is that the tuition is enormously higher that EKU or UK. The candidates for the program are generally working nurses whose incomes exceed the minimum for any financial aid except for loans which would not be practical unless they chose the aforementioned schools. Then, there's the subject of a quality education which is questionable at Union. My 2cents.
I know several people, a family member included, that got their education at Union. Of course they had hefty student loans to payback after graduation and they all went into the eduacation field. Why do you say their education is questionable? Just curious.
A RN

Barbourville, KY

#22 Jul 9, 2010
MomofTeen wrote:
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I know several people, a family member included, that got their education at Union. Of course they had hefty student loans to payback after graduation and they all went into the eduacation field. Why do you say their education is questionable? Just curious.
Let's just say, I know first hand. I agree the Education Majors are to be commended. However, other programs at Union lack that integrity mostly due to underqualified faculty. Plus, a lot of majors are catered to the athletes for an easy ride to a degree. I'ts all about money.

Since: Mar 10

Somerset, KY

#23 Jul 9, 2010
A RN wrote:
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Let's just say, I know first hand. I agree the Education Majors are to be commended. However, other programs at Union lack that integrity mostly due to underqualified faculty. Plus, a lot of majors are catered to the athletes for an easy ride to a degree. I'ts all about money.
Can't argue with that. But isn't it like that at other Universities as well? I'm not a big sports fan, I'll KY play basketball occasionally, or watch a softball game, but I'm not a die hard sports fan. Anyway, it just seems that no matter what university you attend, the jocks are going to be catered to. They do that even in high school.
Seen the Elephant

Rancho Mirage, CA

#24 Jul 9, 2010
One more way to pay that tuition:
I had mentioned the military but forgot an important source of scholarships - the public health service. They do scholarships for health professionals. The person then pays back the scholarhip by serving in the PHS in places like the Indian Health Service or the Prison Health Service. Great jobs, great training, great opportunities.

Another advantage of Union's program is proximity. If I were a nurse in Bville, trying to work, I just would not have time to drive to Richmond or Lexington to go to school. Work and school are enough without the drive. And the drive is also expensive.

So if they stay home and go to Union, they will pay a lot of tuition but will not wear out their car or the bodies!

This is especially important during the clinical sessions when the student is required to spend hours in the educational process, and getting very little school credit for it.

Now a postive note: I once had a friend who was an RN. She wanted a BSN. Was afraid of chemistry.

Finally I said - enroll. If it comes to this, I will sit beside you every minute and help with your chemistry.

I did not know until two years later when she graduated that she did enroll - and did just fine in chemistry by herself. It is possible to have a full time job and a full time student load but adding in a big commute would make it a lot tougher.

Good luck all. You can do it.

It just really seems odd to think of Union as a place to get training for health careers.
MomofTeen wrote:
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Good points. Out of state students bring in needed revenue, but there's not a lot of choices around Barbourville for entertainment, shopping, etc. So they would either travel to Middlesboro, Corbin, or beyond to spend the money that Knox so desperately needs. My daughter wants to write a letter to Mr.Thompson, pleading her case for a Mall, since I hate shopping. We could use some decent clothing stores around here. Kohls, Target, Hot Topic, or an Old Navy would be awesome and a lot of people wouldn't have to make the drive to Lexington to spend money. It could be spent right here in Knox, and open up some badly needed jobs.
And yes, I'll definitely agree that Barbourville is underserved in the Medical profession. We're deperate for doctors who specialize in certain areas of medicine, and even gp's who'd actually take the time to try to figure out the patients' problems instead of just writting them a bunch of meds every month. However, the majority (so it seems) is on some kind of government assistance where they'll only get a certain amount per patient and specialized physicians usually make more then that. So I don't see them coming here in the future.
Oh, also, some nursing homes, if you sign a contract with them, will help pay tuition fees. I use to work in one in Corbin and they helped one lady get her RN Bachlor's degree. She signed a contract with them, saying she'd work for them so many years after graduation. When I left there, she was the DON.
Anyway, I'm glad to hear you got a great job, eventhough it is in another town. Congratulations!
Seen the Elephant

Rancho Mirage, CA

#25 Jul 9, 2010
MomofTeen wrote:
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Good points. Out of state students bring in needed revenue, but there's not a lot of choices around Barbourville for entertainment, shopping, etc. So they would either travel to Middlesboro, Corbin, or beyond to spend the money that Knox so desperately needs. My daughter wants to write a letter to Mr.Thompson, pleading her case for a Mall, since I hate shopping. We could use some decent clothing stores around here. Kohls, Target, Hot Topic, or an Old Navy would be awesome and a lot of people wouldn't have to make the drive to Lexington to spend money. It could be spent right here in Knox, and open up some badly needed jobs.
And yes, I'll definitely agree that Barbourville is underserved in the Medical profession. We're deperate for doctors who specialize in certain areas of medicine, and even gp's who'd actually take the time to try to figure out the patients' problems instead of just writting them a bunch of meds every month. However, the majority (so it seems) is on some kind of government assistance where they'll only get a certain amount per patient and specialized physicians usually make more then that. So I don't see them coming here in the future.
Oh, also, some nursing homes, if you sign a contract with them, will help pay tuition fees. I use to work in one in Corbin and they helped one lady get her RN Bachlor's degree. She signed a contract with them, saying she'd work for them so many years after graduation. When I left there, she was the DON.
Anyway, I'm glad to hear you got a great job, eventhough it is in another town. Congratulations!
I agree that Barbourville would need a lot to attract student discretionary dollars. But just living here, they pay rent, they buy food, they pay for utilities. Some of that is profit that goes into the economy. In economics, we were taught that every dollar spent in an economy becomes 7$ to that economy. The dollar changes hands 7 times before it trickles away. Union takes in a lot of money but they spend a lot of money as well. So some of that tuition goes right back into our economy in the form of jobs (like the janior mentioned on this thread).

I believe that if we have better nurses, better doctors will eventually follow. That does not mean our nurses are lacking (I have no idea). But change does come slowly to Knox Country. So when a young person goes to the best schools in the state and is trained in all the latest procedures, he is going to be a bit shocked when he comes home to Knox CO and finds that those ideas and techniques are not here.

So I think it is great that our nurses get another way that they might further their education. Perhaps they might want to take a job at Union and get that free tuition!
good program

United States

#26 Jul 10, 2010
Union'snursing program is a great idea for single mothers here in b'ville, they can go on obama's dollar,(or the taxpayers) and go for free, they even pay them to go, buy their gas, food, books, pay babysitter, fix their vehicle if needed, put tires on car, and they get food stamps and a check at the end of the month, is good to get them off freebees, if they will use this as a step up, I am torn, it seams that if you can afford an education here,you should have a baby, and that is not a good reason , but the alternative,? I dont know

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