Union College approved to begin nursing program

Jun 22, 2010 Full story: Middlesboro Daily News 26

The former Knox County Hospital building will be fully repurposed and rehabilitated by 2012.

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Proud Alum

Belfry, KY

#1 Jun 22, 2010
Go Bulldogs!! This program will be a win win for both the area nurses and the patients.
student

Oak Park, MI

#2 Jun 23, 2010
Proud Alum wrote:
Go Bulldogs!! This program will be a win win for both the area nurses and the patients.
the tutution so high it will never go over. only way you can afford union is be on a full ride, why would you pay that when you can go to middlesboro at secc for a third of the cost.

Since: Mar 10

London, KY

#3 Jun 23, 2010
student wrote:
<quoted text> the tutution so high it will never go over. only way you can afford union is be on a full ride, why would you pay that when you can go to middlesboro at secc for a third of the cost.
Very true. They would have to bring the cost of tuition down for people to be able to afford it. Even with grants helping out, it doesn't cover the full tuition at Union. It's a great school (from what I've heard) and that old saying you get what you pay for, but who wants to begin their adult life in debt with thousands of dollars in student loans?
Jackie

Fordyce, AR

#4 Jun 23, 2010
student wrote:
<quoted text> the tutution so high it will never go over. only way you can afford union is be on a full ride, why would you pay that when you can go to middlesboro at secc for a third of the cost.
Except that nobody can get a bachelor's degree at SECC or any other community college. Looks to me like this is for people who already have a community college nursing degree, but they want a bachelor's degree in nursing. Always costs more to go to a four-year school.
Betterdaysahead

Manchester, KY

#5 Jun 24, 2010
Well that is good Now us see if we can get some barbourvile or Knox co students in it and not students from 10,000 miles away we need to educate our region and work in our region health care here in seky is sad, Let other countrys take care of there self, They will come to Barbourville Union College and get a free educationa nd go back to there country to work on our money leaving this region to suffer for good quality Doctors and nurses If you cant keep your own house healthy you cant help anyone els see if you cant get students from Knox Central and Barbourville High and keep them at home after they become nurses, we also Need a dental school whos gonna do that next? We dont want these doctors that only come to seky not because they like the people they are willing to take less pay and the good Doctors dont want to live in Barbourville well if they dont want to live in barbourville then they cant go to school at Union College and Become a nurse move to Alaska go to school there and live there.

Since: Mar 10

Manchester, KY

#6 Jun 24, 2010
Jackie wrote:
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Except that nobody can get a bachelor's degree at SECC or any other community college. Looks to me like this is for people who already have a community college nursing degree, but they want a bachelor's degree in nursing. Always costs more to go to a four-year school.
Valid point. Most Nursing students I know go to LMU or somewhere in London to get their degree. If they choose to further their education with a bachelor's degree, they could do it here in Barbourville. Still, the tuition is stiff, which might put them off, and send them away to other universities where the tuition isn't so expensive.

I've also heard that children of teachers at Union get discounted rates or free tuition to go there. I don't know if it's true or not, just a rumor I heard, and we all know what they say about rumors....
Why does it matter

Barbourville, KY

#7 Jun 24, 2010
MomofTeen wrote:
<quoted text>
Valid point. Most Nursing students I know go to LMU or somewhere in London to get their degree. If they choose to further their education with a bachelor's degree, they could do it here in Barbourville. Still, the tuition is stiff, which might put them off, and send them away to other universities where the tuition isn't so expensive.
I've also heard that children of teachers at Union get discounted rates or free tuition to go there. I don't know if it's true or not, just a rumor I heard, and we all know what they say about rumors....
As a graduate of Union COllege....I have never heard of them going there for free...but I have heard they get a discount. I do not know which is true. But, either way at least they are going to school to make something of themselves.
Why does it matter

Barbourville, KY

#8 Jun 24, 2010
Proud Alum wrote:
Go Bulldogs!! This program will be a win win for both the area nurses and the patients.
I am an alum of Union as well...I am excited about this I am considering going back and getting my Master's in nursing.

Since: Mar 10

London, KY

#9 Jun 24, 2010
Why does it matter wrote:
<quoted text> As a graduate of Union COllege....I have never heard of them going there for free...but I have heard they get a discount. I do not know which is true. But, either way at least they are going to school to make something of themselves.
I asked someone about it, she use to work there. They do get discounted rates, but it's still expensive, even with grants, scholarships etc. It's great that their bringing in another vocation so people can get a better education, therefore better paying jobs. With tuition being so high, though, it might put some people off is all I'm saying.

Since: Mar 10

London, KY

#10 Jun 24, 2010
their = they're. sorry bout the typo
opinionated

London, KY

#11 Jun 24, 2010
Although Union's tuition is high, LMU's is also. The cheaper alternative would be to choose SCC but SCC has a point's system that determines who gets in and, for each class, only 20-30 are taken. Should you decide to go to Union or LMU or anywhere, a hospital will usually pay off your student loans or give you a flat rate sign on bonus if you sign on with them for 2-3 years so in my eyes, tuition costs don't really matter, especially if you're going to stick with it but if not, you need to stick with SCC. That way you only have to pay off around $6-8,000 compared to $11,000. It's a matter of where you can get in and out of the quickest.

Since: Mar 10

London, KY

#12 Jun 25, 2010
opinionated wrote:
Although Union's tuition is high, LMU's is also. The cheaper alternative would be to choose SCC but SCC has a point's system that determines who gets in and, for each class, only 20-30 are taken. Should you decide to go to Union or LMU or anywhere, a hospital will usually pay off your student loans or give you a flat rate sign on bonus if you sign on with them for 2-3 years so in my eyes, tuition costs don't really matter, especially if you're going to stick with it but if not, you need to stick with SCC. That way you only have to pay off around $6-8,000 compared to $11,000. It's a matter of where you can get in and out of the quickest.
Ahh.. I wasn't aware of that. Pretty sure a lot people weren't either. This info could help out a lot of people. Thanks for sharing!
Boondogger

Barbourville, KY

#13 Jun 25, 2010
Why does it matter wrote:
<quoted text>I am an alum of Union as well...I am excited about this I am considering going back and getting my Master's in nursing.
Too bad Union doesn't have a master's in nursing. They can only do RN-to-BSN - meaning you have to have a valid RN license but not a bachelor's degree.
Boondogger

Barbourville, KY

#14 Jun 25, 2010
opinionated wrote:
Although Union's tuition is high, LMU's is also. The cheaper alternative would be to choose SCC but SCC has a point's system that determines who gets in and, for each class, only 20-30 are taken. Should you decide to go to Union or LMU or anywhere, a hospital will usually pay off your student loans or give you a flat rate sign on bonus if you sign on with them for 2-3 years so in my eyes, tuition costs don't really matter, especially if you're going to stick with it but if not, you need to stick with SCC. That way you only have to pay off around $6-8,000 compared to $11,000. It's a matter of where you can get in and out of the quickest.
Compared to $11,000? No, that's not happening at Union. Total tuition cost for anyone doing the RN-to-BSN program is $29,150.
Boondogger

Barbourville, KY

#15 Jun 25, 2010
Why does it matter wrote:
<quoted text> As a graduate of Union COllege....I have never heard of them going there for free...but I have heard they get a discount. I do not know which is true. But, either way at least they are going to school to make something of themselves.
Yes, children of Union employees go to the school for free. Most do not attend there, however.
Jackie

London, KY

#16 Jun 29, 2010
I went to a small private college in Ohio. It's a lot like Union. You pay more to go to a small college because you get a lot more attention and support. The school I graduated from makes Union look super cheap; for a private college, Union's tuition is very low. I think we're lucky to have a private college that's so affordable so close to us. Plus, people get so caught up on the published tuition numbers. Truth is, all colleges--including Union--give steep discounts to almost every single student, based on their academic record and on financial need.
Seen the Elephant

Palm Desert, CA

#17 Jul 6, 2010
It is pretty normal that family of faculty get reduced or free tuition at private colleges. Just last week, I was researching a job in my field and one of the perks was free tuition for life at a major private university in the Wash DC area.

Also, please consider that Union is a privately owned school. When they bring students from out of state, the students bring their money from out of state and spend it in Barbourville (if we were nice to them, they might spend more of it with us!). This creates and supports more jobs in Barbourville. If Union could make hundreds of nurses per year, and if students came from all over the country to study at Union, it would be a major economic boon for B'ville. Remember the good old days in the 60's and early 70's when Union was full of out of state students (back when we had a draft)? Barbourville was much more economically stable with their money flowing through the town.

Finally, if cost is an issue, and if you are young enough, smart enough, and healthy enough to qualify, the military has scholarships to help with the last 2 years of nursing school!

There are often programs that will forgive federal student loans if the graduate will work in an underserved area. Careful on this one. In my own case, even though Bville was an underserved area in my specialty, I could not find a job in Barbourville!

But since I got a good job in another town, I was able to pay the loans!
MomofTeen wrote:
<quoted text>
Valid point. Most Nursing students I know go to LMU or somewhere in London to get their degree. If they choose to further their education with a bachelor's degree, they could do it here in Barbourville. Still, the tuition is stiff, which might put them off, and send them away to other universities where the tuition isn't so expensive.
I've also heard that children of teachers at Union get discounted rates or free tuition to go there. I don't know if it's true or not, just a rumor I heard, and we all know what they say about rumors....
for sure

Oak Park, MI

#18 Jul 7, 2010
MomofTeen wrote:
<quoted text>
Valid point. Most Nursing students I know go to LMU or somewhere in London to get their degree. If they choose to further their education with a bachelor's degree, they could do it here in Barbourville. Still, the tuition is stiff, which might put them off, and send them away to other universities where the tuition isn't so expensive.
I've also heard that children of teachers at Union get discounted rates or free tuition to go there. I don't know if it's true or not, just a rumor I heard, and we all know what they say about rumors....
its not a rumor they go to school free even maintenance workers get free tuition. which really is a good thing i guess unions way of giving back to its employee's but it is true if employee of union your kids get free ride
A RN

Barbourville, KY

#19 Jul 8, 2010
The problem I see with Union's Rn-BSN Program is that the tuition is enormously higher that EKU or UK. The candidates for the program are generally working nurses whose incomes exceed the minimum for any financial aid except for loans which would not be practical unless they chose the aforementioned schools. Then, there's the subject of a quality education which is questionable at Union. My 2cents.

Since: Mar 10

Nancy, KY

#20 Jul 8, 2010
Seen the Elephant wrote:
It is pretty normal that family of faculty get reduced or free tuition at private colleges. Just last week, I was researching a job in my field and one of the perks was free tuition for life at a major private university in the Wash DC area.
Also, please consider that Union is a privately owned school. When they bring students from out of state, the students bring their money from out of state and spend it in Barbourville (if we were nice to them, they might spend more of it with us!). This creates and supports more jobs in Barbourville. If Union could make hundreds of nurses per year, and if students came from all over the country to study at Union, it would be a major economic boon for B'ville. Remember the good old days in the 60's and early 70's when Union was full of out of state students (back when we had a draft)? Barbourville was much more economically stable with their money flowing through the town.
Finally, if cost is an issue, and if you are young enough, smart enough, and healthy enough to qualify, the military has scholarships to help with the last 2 years of nursing school!
There are often programs that will forgive federal student loans if the graduate will work in an underserved area. Careful on this one. In my own case, even though Bville was an underserved area in my specialty, I could not find a job in Barbourville!
But since I got a good job in another town, I was able to pay the loans!
<quoted text>
Good points. Out of state students bring in needed revenue, but there's not a lot of choices around Barbourville for entertainment, shopping, etc. So they would either travel to Middlesboro, Corbin, or beyond to spend the money that Knox so desperately needs. My daughter wants to write a letter to Mr.Thompson, pleading her case for a Mall, since I hate shopping. We could use some decent clothing stores around here. Kohls, Target, Hot Topic, or an Old Navy would be awesome and a lot of people wouldn't have to make the drive to Lexington to spend money. It could be spent right here in Knox, and open up some badly needed jobs.
And yes, I'll definitely agree that Barbourville is underserved in the Medical profession. We're deperate for doctors who specialize in certain areas of medicine, and even gp's who'd actually take the time to try to figure out the patients' problems instead of just writting them a bunch of meds every month. However, the majority (so it seems) is on some kind of government assistance where they'll only get a certain amount per patient and specialized physicians usually make more then that. So I don't see them coming here in the future.
Oh, also, some nursing homes, if you sign a contract with them, will help pay tuition fees. I use to work in one in Corbin and they helped one lady get her RN Bachlor's degree. She signed a contract with them, saying she'd work for them so many years after graduation. When I left there, she was the DON.
Anyway, I'm glad to hear you got a great job, eventhough it is in another town. Congratulations!

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