Inmate Found Dead In His Cell At Kent...

Inmate Found Dead In His Cell At Kent County Jail

There are 27 comments on the WXMI-TV Grand Rapids story from Aug 1, 2010, titled Inmate Found Dead In His Cell At Kent County Jail. In it, WXMI-TV Grand Rapids reports that:

The Kent County Sheriff's Department is investigating the death of a jail inmate Saturday afternoon.

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Since: Feb 08

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#1 Aug 1, 2010
Good Day,

Again? Isn't this the second or third event such as this in as many years there? I am not pointing the finger per se, but this seems odd to me.

Steelie
Nauseating

Grand Rapids, MI

#2 Aug 1, 2010
Steelie wrote:
Good Day,
Again? Isn't this the second or third event such as this in as many years there? I am not pointing the finger per se, but this seems odd to me.
Steelie
and WHAT exactly is "odd" about a person who has a rap sheet a mile long with drug offenses being found dead?...slow day for you Steelie? every little news story does NOT have to become a topix thread

Since: Sep 08

United States

#3 Aug 1, 2010
Nauseating wrote:
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and WHAT exactly is "odd" about a person who has a rap sheet a mile long with drug offenses being found dead?...slow day for you Steelie? every little news story does NOT have to become a topix thread
How many are supposed to die in custody before he gets to ask the question w/o putting up with your poop? It is getting ridiculous around here, you dare question the thin blue line and we get all kinds of vigorous holier then thou crap back, no matter how stupid it appears the cops behavior was. This was rather a mild question and it sill gets greeted w/ hostility, well BS, we should be asking more questions. We have had college kids shot, young adults tasered to death, multiple shootings in the same GR neighborhood with zero arrests and now apparenlty we don't dare question the pompous butts in uniform well excuse fing me.

How is that investigation coming of that fatal GRPD cruiser accident a few months ago, I would really like to know how fast that cruiser was going so I can decide if GRPD was blowing smoke up my butt when they said speed was not a factor in the death of the driver of the other car.

Since: Feb 08

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#4 Aug 1, 2010
GR Pete wrote:
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How many are supposed to die in custody before he gets to ask the question w/o putting up with your poop? It is getting ridiculous around here, you dare question the thin blue line and we get all kinds of vigorous holier then thou crap back, no matter how stupid it appears the cops behavior was. This was rather a mild question and it sill gets greeted w/ hostility, well BS, we should be asking more questions. We have had college kids shot, young adults tasered to death, multiple shootings in the same GR neighborhood with zero arrests and now apparenlty we don't dare question the pompous butts in uniform well excuse fing me.
How is that investigation coming of that fatal GRPD cruiser accident a few months ago, I would really like to know how fast that cruiser was going so I can decide if GRPD was blowing smoke up my butt when they said speed was not a factor in the death of the driver of the other car.
Good Day,

While I may contend that our people in blue do not have the easiet of jobs... and most are well intentioned, what is up with all the deaths/health issues recently at the Kent County jail? It seems to me that there is either something wrong, or there are individuals who are clearly unqualified for their jobs. And at this point, I am pointing the finger at the "medical" (if there is such a thing) staff. What is up with that? Something seems off...

Steelie

Since: Dec 08

Ottawa County

#5 Aug 1, 2010
Nauseating wrote:
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and WHAT exactly is "odd" about a person who has a rap sheet a mile long with drug offenses being found dead?...slow day for you Steelie? every little news story does NOT have to become a topix thread
What the heck?

Since: Feb 08

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#6 Aug 1, 2010
Good Day,

Agreed. Up late with work... at any rate,, agreed with your point.

Steelie

Since: Feb 08

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#7 Aug 1, 2010
Nauseating wrote:
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and WHAT exactly is "odd" about a person who has a rap sheet a mile long with drug offenses being found dead?...slow day for you Steelie? every little news story does NOT have to become a topix thread
Good Day,

Again, up late working/surfing. The point I think should be if you do have an individual with a rap sheet a mile long, that it might behoove you to perhaps take and or consider taking just a little closer look at their health. If they are over weight. Too thin. Meth heads. Coke heads. Diabetics. And so on. Just because an individual may be incarcerated at county, despite my being conservative, or perhaps due to it, I think it important to ensure the safety and health of any inmate or for that matter, deputy. Life is life...

Steelie

“Dude, Where's my car?”

Since: Jan 08

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#8 Aug 2, 2010
Steelie wrote:
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Good Day,
Again, up late working/surfing. The point I think should be if you do have an individual with a rap sheet a mile long, that it might behoove you to perhaps take and or consider taking just a little closer look at their health. If they are over weight. Too thin. Meth heads. Coke heads. Diabetics. And so on. Just because an individual may be incarcerated at county, despite my being conservative, or perhaps due to it, I think it important to ensure the safety and health of any inmate or for that matter, deputy. Life is life...
Steelie
I have to agree with you Steelie. While I have nothing but respect for law enforcement, something just doesn't seem right about losing so many inmates at this particular prison. Life IS life and that even applies to inmates. I think it certainly bears a much closer investigation, perhaps by an outside, independent source, to see if something is amiss at the jail. Part of the problem may lie with the reduced staffing levels that all of law enforcement are experience due to state and local budget cuts.
Nauseating

Grand Rapids, MI

#9 Aug 2, 2010
THE POINT IS THIS: how many inmates have died in custody DUE TO THEIR OWN STUPIDITY???...most likely, with this guy's rap sheet, the guy in this case shoved a baggie full of crack up his a$$(no pun intended), it leaked, and he overdosed...
'nuff said
Nauseating

Grand Rapids, MI

#10 Aug 2, 2010
and speaking of STUPIDITY, add to that, the IDIOTS who were shot to death in Battle Creek...QUIT DISTURBING PEOPLE AT 4AM...WTF is wrong with people???...standing in the middle of the F(KN) road at 4AM, causing a disturbance, and when they're told that they're causing a disturbance and to move along, they get cocky and say no, they're not leaving???...can't really blame the shooter a whole lot there

Since: Sep 08

United States

#11 Aug 2, 2010
Nauseating wrote:
and speaking of STUPIDITY, add to that, the IDIOTS who were shot to death in Battle Creek...QUIT DISTURBING PEOPLE AT 4AM...WTF is wrong with people???...standing in the middle of the F(KN) road at 4AM, causing a disturbance, and when they're told that they're causing a disturbance and to move along, they get cocky and say no, they're not leaving???...can't really blame the shooter a whole lot there
Do you consider yourself to be a Christian, if so reconsider.

“Dude, Where's my car?”

Since: Jan 08

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#12 Aug 2, 2010
GR Pete wrote:
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Do you consider yourself to be a Christian, if so reconsider.
Did I miss something? Where did that poster claim to be a Christian?
News flash

United States

#13 Aug 2, 2010
GR Pete wrote:
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Do you consider yourself to be a Christian, if so reconsider.
The person who posted that (Nauseating) is Rval - you do the math.
Blues Clues

Deerfield, IL

#14 Aug 2, 2010
WoW ! looks like Rval has been drinking ....AGAIN !

I just thought it was the Kent County Jail that hired Rval as a cook.
Nauseating

Grand Rapids, MI

#15 Aug 2, 2010
GR Pete wrote:
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Do you consider yourself to be a Christian, if so reconsider.
and how well did God tolerate stupidity?

Since: Feb 08

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#16 Aug 2, 2010
GR Pete wrote:
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How many are supposed to die in custody before he gets to ask the question w/o putting up with your poop? It is getting ridiculous around here, you dare question the thin blue line and we get all kinds of vigorous holier then thou crap back, no matter how stupid it appears the cops behavior was. This was rather a mild question and it sill gets greeted w/ hostility, well BS, we should be asking more questions. We have had college kids shot, young adults tasered to death, multiple shootings in the same GR neighborhood with zero arrests and now apparenlty we don't dare question the pompous butts in uniform well excuse fing me.
How is that investigation coming of that fatal GRPD cruiser accident a few months ago, I would really like to know how fast that cruiser was going so I can decide if GRPD was blowing smoke up my butt when they said speed was not a factor in the death of the driver of the other car.
Good Day,

And that is just it. So here is my question... assuming an inmate does have a "mile long" rap sheet let us hypotheticly say with many drug offenses and addicted to meth. Would you not think that they would be given a full physical vs. quick interveiw with a nurse? Don't you think that the jail would take efforts to ensure these high risk (health) inmates are, for lack of a better term, vetted physicly? That their overall health be examined and the proper steps to ensure their health and safety? If an inmate has asthma, should they not be allowed to have an inhaler in their own hands? If they have heart problems should thay not recieve the proper medication? IMHO, if there is one thing an inmate should expect to recieve is proper medical treatment. You can take away the T.V., remove the gym, keep them locked up 23 hours a day, and so on, but is it not base human decency to make sure they don't pass un-necessarily? Just saying...

Steelie
Nauseated Too

United States

#17 Aug 2, 2010
Nauseating wrote:
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and how well did God tolerate stupidity?
He created you, didn't He?
sue

United States

#18 Aug 3, 2010
Steelie wrote:
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Good Day,
And that is just it. So here is my question... assuming an inmate does have a "mile long" rap sheet let us hypotheticly say with many drug offenses and addicted to meth. Would you not think that they would be given a full physical vs. quick interveiw with a nurse? Don't you think that the jail would take efforts to ensure these high risk (health) inmates are, for lack of a better term, vetted physicly? That their overall health be examined and the proper steps to ensure their health and safety? If an inmate has asthma, should they not be allowed to have an inhaler in their own hands? If they have heart problems should thay not recieve the proper medication? IMHO, if there is one thing an inmate should expect to recieve is proper medical treatment. You can take away the T.V., remove the gym, keep them locked up 23 hours a day, and so on, but is it not base human decency to make sure they don't pass un-necessarily? Just saying...
Steelie
You sound as though you led a sheltered life, not that that's a bad thing, but it doesn't give you a basis for understanding. Do you think that people in jail are going to 'work with' the estabilishment? The jail does have an infirmary, it does have medical staff, and inmates are indeed provided with their prescription medication.

The problems come into the picture when you have an inmate who is an illegal drug abuser - quite a common theme by the way - do you think they will be honest with the jail staff about their illegal drug usage? Do you really believe that they will tell the nurse that they have a baggie of meth shoved up their rectum?

On the other side of the coin is the people who play sick to get out of 'normal' confinement. They would prefer to serve thier sentence in the infimary or the hospital than in regular jail. Who wouldn't?

So how to spot the truly ill from those playing games? How do you figure out which drug abuser is lying when they say they haven't used in months? Which crystal ball did you want the police to use to know who is going to drop dead at any moment? Instead of being angry at the police, maybe look at the adults who aren't taking responsibility for themselves, their own actions and behaviors.

You at least don't seem to have the 'I hate police no matter what' attitude. I don't know about jail tours, but I do know that you can request a civilian ride along with the police. It gives you the opportunity to see how an arrest goes down, what questions people are asked when being lodged in jail, and most likely you will get a chance to see someone refuse to answer any questions, even medical questions that could save their life. At that point, whose responsibility is it really?
John Kerry

Battle Creek, MI

#19 Aug 3, 2010
GR Pete wrote:
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We have had college kids shot, young adults tasered to death, multiple shootings in the same GR neighborhood with zero arrests and now apparenlty we don't dare question the pompous butts in uniform well excuse fing me.
Peter, there you go again...the above mentioned HAVE BEEN INVESTIGATED. In the shooting case, resolved...the tasering case, resolved....just because you don't like the resolutions does not mean these incidents haven't been questioned!!!! They have!! Resolutions have been reached!! Why do you continue to fan the flames. Steeles' question is a valid one. Don't diminish it by using examples of cases that have had resolutions!!! Again, your anti cop (even though you have stated you are not) attitude shines through.
say what

Grand Rapids, MI

#20 Aug 3, 2010
Steelie wrote:
Good Day,
And that is just it. So here is my question... assuming an inmate does have a "mile long" rap sheet let us hypotheticly say with many drug offenses and addicted to meth. Would you not think that they would be given a full physical vs. quick interveiw with a nurse? Don't you think that the jail would take efforts to ensure these high risk (health) inmates are, for lack of a better term, vetted physicly? That their overall health be examined and the proper steps to ensure their health and safety? If an inmate has asthma, should they not be allowed to have an inhaler in their own hands? If they have heart problems should thay not recieve the proper medication? IMHO, if there is one thing an inmate should expect to recieve is proper medical treatment. You can take away the T.V., remove the gym, keep them locked up 23 hours a day, and so on, but is it not base human decency to make sure they don't pass un-necessarily? Just saying...
Steelie
The guy had been there 4 1/2 months and his death appears to have been from 'natural causes'(read heart attack), not all that uncommon in people who have abused their bodies with drugs and alcohol for some time and not even all that uncommon in folks outside of jail. Exactly what would a physical when he was first incarcerated have done to prevent this? Are you proposing they give all inmates with a history of drug and alcohol abuse a full cardiac exam including cardiac stress test and full blood workup and then put them on a boatload of medications at the taxpayer's expense? Wow...in that case I'd say crime really does pay. There are a lot of law-abiding citizens that don't get medical care that good and some of them even have insurance!

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