More low-income residents with housing vouchers are moving to the suburbs, study finds

Oct 18, 2011 | Posted by: roboblogger | Full story: MLive.com

The stereotype of public housing as an inner city landmark is belied in communities across West Michigan, where Grand Rapids ranks No.

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I cannot believe, that the majority of the voting public, thinks this is a reasonable expenditure of taxpayer dollars....Is this not forced housing, much like forced busing?
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This is how blacks ruin good communities. Once an area has been approved for Section Ape housing, any rentals within that area are eligible. Residents have no vote or say in if they want Section Ape housing in their community. It lets worthless parasites into decent neighborhoods. Once an area is approved for Section Ape, property values go down which attracts more blacks, which means more crime and ruins schools.

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I cannot believe, that the majority of the voting public, thinks this is a reasonable expenditure of taxpayer dollars....Is this not forced housing, much like forced busing?
Hi Go Blue, can you please explain what you mean by "forced housing"? Thanks.

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This is how blacks ruin good communities. Once an area has been approved for Section Ape housing, any rentals within that area are eligible. Residents have no vote or say in if they want Section Ape housing in their community. It lets worthless parasites into decent neighborhoods. Once an area is approved for Section Ape, property values go down which attracts more blacks, which means more crime and ruins schools.
Yeah, because that white chick in the picture looks like the so-called parasites you are referring to. Or how about the single mom of 4 in the article that works a full time job at minimum wage? Or is that okay because they are white? Do you not believe that there are blacks who also work full time jobs at minimum wage and are single parents?

I am not saying that I necessarily agree or disagree with the voucher program. I just absolutely am disgusted by your broad generalization of those who need assistance. I read in the article that the majority of applicants for these vouchers have an annual income of $11,000. Could you live off that income without some help?
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Didn't work well for Wyoming. Some of the Section 8 residents are fine, but many bring their inner-city disfunction (and relatives) with them.

Consequently, if they never see how "regular" people live, they never know anything else.

I'm torn, but I have seen a once nice suburb practically implode. I don't think this is good.
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Hi Go Blue, can you please explain what you mean by "forced housing"? Thanks.
I think, the neighborhood is forced to accept, subsidized newcomers, that did not have to work and earn themselves a place, the undeserved forced upon a fragile environment.......plus, they often do not share the same community standards....and we pay for it all.....where is the comman sense, in this?

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<quoted text> I think, the neighborhood is forced to accept, subsidized newcomers, that did not have to work and earn themselves a place, the undeserved forced upon a fragile environment.......plus, they often do not share the same community standards....and we pay for it all.....where is the comman sense, in this?
Okay, so when you say "forced" you are referring more to the folks who have to adapt to possibly having less than ideal new neighbors to deal with who may not have the same sets of neighborly standards as most of us. Am I interpreting that correctly?
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Okay, so when you say "forced" you are referring more to the folks who have to adapt to possibly having less than ideal new neighbors to deal with who may not have the same sets of neighborly standards as most of us. Am I interpreting that correctly?
They move in and turn it into a slum,bringing the ill-mannered,criminal elements with them.
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Go Blue wrote:
<quoted text> I think, the neighborhood is forced to accept, subsidized newcomers, that did not have to work and earn themselves a place, the undeserved forced upon a fragile environment.......plus, they often do not share the same community standards....and we pay for it all.....where is the comman sense, in this?
You are right it is forced housing. Residents do not get to vote on whether to allow Section Ape into their community. Areas are approved for Section Ape by the government. There is big money in Section Ape rentals because they can overcharge on rent and its guaranteed money by the government. Once Section Ape is approved, the community and schools get destroyed, property values plummet, and crime skyrockets.
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Yeah, because that white chick in the picture looks like the so-called parasites you are referring to. Or how about the single mom of 4 in the article that works a full time job at minimum wage? Or is that okay because they are white? Do you not believe that there are blacks who also work full time jobs at minimum wage and are single parents?
I am not saying that I necessarily agree or disagree with the voucher program. I just absolutely am disgusted by your broad generalization of those who need assistance. I read in the article that the majority of applicants for these vouchers have an annual income of $11,000. Could you live off that income without some help?
What do you want to bet most of the white women breeders in that program are coalburners. This is forced integration and whites who earned their way are always the victims of these programs.
If you can't feed them, don't breed them.

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What do you want to bet most of the white women breeders in that program are coalburners. This is forced integration and whites who earned their way are always the victims of these programs.
If you can't feed them, don't breed them.
I don't know what a coalburner is. I do, however, agree with the last line of your statement. And in the general big picture of what you are attempting to say, I probably agree with in terms of people carving out their own lot in life. I just don't agree with your delivery and blatant racism.

On the flip side, this article referred to someone who is working full time at minimum wage while raising four children. So, she isn't simply sitting on her a$$ at home collecting a welfare check every month. And who's to say that she wasn't married to her kid's father and they divorced or he passed away? It's easy to sit on our high horse and be judgmental of someone without knowing all the facts. And while I will be the first to admit that there are plenty of work-ethic challenged people who do take advantage of the system, it's not fair to paint everyone with the same broad stroke. For those of us who have never had to rely on the state for some help, we should feel pretty frickin' lucky, in my opinion. Especially in this economy.
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When you use terms like, section ape and coalburner, it makes it look like we only resist it in a racist way, and not because it is too costly and unfair to the peaceful sanctity of the neighborhood's original residents....
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The reality of this program, is certainly not what this article would have you think.....this is how they softly peddle it to an unsuspecting community....then, what show's up, is hardly the hardworking white mom and her daughters.....See what has happened to the once beautiful suburbs on the far south side of Chicago, places like Park Forest....

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Go Blue wrote:
<quoted text> I think, the neighborhood is forced to accept, subsidized newcomers, that did not have to work and earn themselves a place, the undeserved forced upon a fragile environment.......plus, they often do not share the same community standards....and we pay for it all.....where is the comman sense, in this?
Very well put. I agree 100%.

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The reality of this program, is certainly not what this article would have you think.....this is how they softly peddle it to an unsuspecting community....then, what show's up, is hardly the hardworking white mom and her daughters.....See what has happened to the once beautiful suburbs on the far south side of Chicago, places like Park Forest....
Another gem of a post. We can focus on and argue about the "race" of the problem all day long, but no one can argue the results.
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Why cant we all jess git along?
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This is how blacks ruin good communities. Once an area has been approved for Section Ape housing, any rentals within that area are eligible. Residents have no vote or say in if they want Section Ape housing in their community. It lets worthless parasites into decent neighborhoods. Once an area is approved for Section Ape, property values go down which attracts more blacks, which means more crime and ruins schools.
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My super rich white sister sold her house to move to forest hills so her daughter could go to forest hills.about a mile too far away

No handouts for us whiteys.

just for ones who didn't work or minorities.

"Simmons has two daughters, Sabrina, 11, and Marinna, 14. Her oldest lives with her mother and is home&#8209;schooled. Sabrina is in sixth grade in the Forest Hills Public Schools, a system Simmons believes affords her daughter a chance at a superior eduction."

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Go Blue wrote:
When you use terms like, section ape and coalburner, it makes it look like we only resist it in a racist way, and not because it is too costly and unfair to the peaceful sanctity of the neighborhood's original residents....
Good Day,

Hey Blue! Don't worry too much about the hating "baiter".

First of all, was it not this administration that suggested turning foreclosed homes into rentals?

But perhaps more importantly, even if someone legitimately purchases a home, no one has a say who can buy that home with some "closed/gated/retirement communities" being the exception (or maybe in the case of sex offenders depending on local law). You don't know who is purchasing the home next to you or have a choice. Your new neighbor might be extremely fastidious or a lazy slob letting the grass get 8" tall before they mow their "hayfield". That is what local ordinances are for. ;-)

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Doe's anyone here, know the origin of Section 8 housing? When did the politicians ever tell us all, that this was a good idea? People work their whole lives to purchase a nice home, in a good neighborhood....then the government steps in and subsidizes the lazy and clueless, and with our own tax dollars......

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