Tax trauma puts half-billion in IPS r...

Tax trauma puts half-billion in IPS repairs at risk of rejection

There are 106 comments on the The Indianapolis Star story from Jul 12, 2007, titled Tax trauma puts half-billion in IPS repairs at risk of rejection. In it, The Indianapolis Star reports that:

A half-billion dollars in repairs and renovations at Indianapolis Public Schools could be blocked by property tax relief measures proposed by Gov.

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Bryan

Panama City, FL

#101 Jul 13, 2007
mike in indy wrote:
<quoted text>Who is crying a river here?
A new teacher wrote in post #28
Many quality teachers look to teach in air conditioned buildings. You have to make the buildings desirable to attract future employees. Otherwise, we look elsewhere.
I told him/her to cry me a river and to suck it up.
Indy Citizen

Kenosha, WI

#102 Jul 13, 2007
SPM wrote:
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No, we did not. That was busing. Taking one minority group out to the township schools along with bucket loads of money. To spread out the races. Instead it only caused white flight.
I am proposing one school system in Marion County. No township school systems and no IPS. Just Ones System!!!!
You could eliminate half the public high schools in Marion County. You would not have to upgrade as many of the ancient elementaries that are actually a hazard to kids.
Sell off the non-needed buildings, busses, items. Or let the new system lease them to companies until a time that they are needed again. Bringing in a steady stream of income.
This is probably the best idea I've read. There are ELEVEN School Corporations in Indianapolis--ELEVEN!!! Each has a superintendent making a 6 figure income. Each has a central office bureaucracy, a food service facility, a transportation department, curriculum devision, special ed department, etc. HUGE cost savings could be realized by ALL taxpayers all school systems were consolidated into ONE Indianapolis/Marion County School System!
IPS Teacher

Indianapolis, IN

#103 Jul 15, 2007
Many people comment on "quality teachers" and look back upon their own educational experiences as superior to what happens in a classroom today. Time has passed and a lot has changed even within the past 5 years.

I am embarking on my third year as a teacher in IPS. I was looking forward to a clean, fresh environment that would be a nice reminder to students (who do not get a whole lot of ANYTHING) that we care about their surroundings and that their needs matter.

A question to many of the business-affiliated commentators: What would you do if your building did not have A/C in this heat? There are four schools that are slated to return on July 23...forecasters are predicting upwards of 90+ degree heat. What are school buildings made from? BRICKS...bricks are great in the winter but not so nice in the summer. As for paint and carpeting, I can deal without those. I'll continue to spend my OWN MONEY on learning tools and educational resources to brighten the learning environment. No big deal. I'm in it for the STUDENTS.

IPS takes too much heat, in my not-so-humble opinion. Yes, we are in the midst of a difficult time in our society. The students are VERY challenging, and with constant budget cuts happening not only at the state level, but at the national level, we are essentially shoving our schools to the back burner while demanding them to perform better each year. NCLB is the worst thing that has happened in public education in a long time, and has completely destroyed the morale in inner city environments. This process is cyclical and until somebody steps up and is willing to foot the bill for change to happen, it's going to keep getting worse.

Yes, those children in the streets can be obnoxious, rude and make you want to pull your hair out...but you need to consider your options: more money to the schools for better resources for teachers and facilities. OR...more money for law enforcement and increased taxes to foot the bill for detention centers and juvenile facilities. You pick. I pick school, because there are more "good eggs" in each class than there are children who are going to cause a disturbance to our precious society.

Personally, I pay taxes in a district whose board doesn't give a flying flip about anything but the bottom dollar. I look at their gorgeous facilities and huge waiting list for teaching positions and I wonder what the fuss is about. This township gets very little "bad press" even when it is quite clear that the elected members of the board don't give a fat rat about any of the wishes of the tax payers, parents, students or staff. The IPS board, in an attempt to get into the good graces of its tax payers gets even more heat. Can IPS ever win?? You cannot expect a miracle, people...let's get real here. I work hard for my money, and my taxes doubled, but I'm going to suck it up and deal with it...I'd like to be able to have the future of our country happy with society, so that someday, when it's ME that needs taken care of, they are well equiped to step up and take charge.
Kidd

United States

#104 Jul 15, 2007
yes, please STOP spending.
Mike

Indianapolis, IN

#105 Jul 20, 2007
I agree...pull the plug. 50% of my tax levy is IPS....NO MORE MONEY. The return for my investment is poor and no one could convience me that the bond issue would make a hill of beans difference. IPS needs to cut it's budget by looking for programs that can be eliminated.
Mike

Indianapolis, IN

#106 Jul 20, 2007
Property taxes are an unfair and inefficient way of financing local operation. High property taxes discourage home ownership, a bed rock value of our country so I thought. Property taxes are subject to abuse by incompetent officials that we elect. All one has to do is look at recent events in Marion County and the distribution of increases through the townships. Something is grossly wrong and mismanaged. Also we do not owner our property. In reality we rent from the government...just stop paying your property taxes and find out what happens. There are more equitable ways of financing government than property taxes that distributes the cost of running government more equitably amongst the citizens. DO AWAY WITH THE PROPERTY TAX SYSTEM AND NOW IS THE TIME TO DO IT.
Mike

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