Fund would upgrade railroad crossings

Full story: The Indianapolis Star

The Johnson County Commissioners voted unanimously today to create a fund that would funnel privately donated money to improve the county's most dangerous railroad crossings.

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Hay

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Feb 27, 2007
 
Why don't we outsource the railroad crossings ?
Perry Township resident

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Feb 27, 2007
 
http://www.fra.dot.gov/us/content/86
is a web site that might provide some insight.
RR crossing

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Feb 27, 2007
 
Not dangerous if you obey the stop signs at any crossing.
Heywood Jablowme

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Feb 27, 2007
 
Indeed...I was wondering if the big red octagonal signs meant something different in Johnson County than they do everywhere else. Typical political knee-jerk reaction to divert blame for a tragic crash away from the driver. Note, I don't say accident, because the incident in question was a direct result of driver negligence by disregarding a posted stop sign at a PROPERLY marked railroad crossing, that apparently has been crossed safely by several thousand cars per day for many, many years without any of those drivers pulling into the path of a locomotive. So, why is it that when one guy makes a bonehead move and violates the law and negligently kills a couple of kids, everyone wants to blame the crossing...maybe because the subject in question (who, incidentally had the gall to let WTHR mention tonight that he was in support of this useless token legislation) is an upper middle class white Center Grove yupster. If this had occurred up in the inner city and been a carload of Hispanics or African Americans, the media would be all over the fact that the driver was at fault. Matter of fact, didn't an African American woman in Indianapolis go to jail last year because she was in a crash involving a van load of her kids, none of whom was killed, but they weren't properly restrained? So, why is it that no charges were filed in this incident...seems to me that the facts are pretty clear, two counts of negligent homicide. How about we go after the real cause of the incident rather that dip into my pocketbook to fix a problem that doesn't exist.
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Feb 27, 2007
 
Heywood Jablowme wrote:
... How about we go after the real cause of the incident rather that dip into my pocketbook to fix a problem that doesn't exist.
The article indicated that the money would be coming from private sources. You're right that most train/car crashes can be avoided by the car driver, but there is still very good reason to install enhanced warnings and barricades: It's not just the driver who dies - his innocent passengers die, too. I think it's an excellent thing that private funds are going toward this. What's your problem with having barriers that prevent idiots from killing their passengers? You won't have to wait any longer for the barriers than you already have to wait for the lights.
From the shallow end

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Feb 27, 2007
 
Did any of you see the goof on picture radio tonight who was livid that a deputy gave him a ticket for a rolling stop at that same crossing?

Widely publicized that the Sheriff has his folks hawking the crossing and our good motorist was out flagging others to warn them that a deputy was watching.

Why was he so livid? Hell, he got a ticket that will cost over $100 and there was no train coming and he shouldda gotten a warning.

The gene pool is shallow some days.
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Feb 27, 2007
 
It stuns me that this problem has existed for years. It is the Johnson County government's responsibility to provide for the health, safety and welfare of its citizens and visitors. Johnson County has experienced tremendous assessed value growth and yet the commissioners hold out their hands for donations because there's no money in the budget....this is the best they can do after (another) fatal accident? The railroad owners should ante up, too, beyond the cost that the railroad would pass to its users. One would think that these entities could get their act together and find some matching grant revenue from the federal government (us again, of course) but this is just unacceptable, to pass it off to local donors because the county government has no foresight to deal with transportation issues.

Maybe we'd be better off if the Indiana Commerce Connector DIDN'T pass through Johnson County - it's obvious that the county government can't handle the roads it already has....
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Feb 28, 2007
 
Railroad crossings should have been done away with long ago. Do people realize that in many states you either drive under railroad tracks or you drive on a bridge that passes over them but you never have to cross them like we still do here in Indiana. We have one of the highest train death rates in the nation because of it.
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Feb 28, 2007
 
It's not just the railroad crossings, the entire infrastructure (roads) are crumbling in Johnson county due to the irresponsible growth clipping along unabated without even a sniff of a road project let alone something as visible as this.

Johnson county as a whole and especially northwest Johnson county is now a very busy suburb, but our roads are still a product of a farmland community. We get what we pay for as our tax rate is the lowest of all the doughnut counties, and our local government rubber stamps every development of any size in the spirit of growth. Yet we have never been more strapped for funds. Seems like the value of the changing land use isn't panning out.
Lance

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Feb 28, 2007
 
Amen Mike & Randy.
Randy

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Mar 1, 2007
 
Gary Moody -- Franklin wrote:
Amen amen Mike, Randy, and Lance. The root problem of this is poor planning and the fact that County government, and these specific Commissioners, ESPECIALLY Ripley, brown-noses developers, Mike Duke in particular. Strapped for funds? I witnessed those three giving Duke a $25,000 handout last July, with the admission that "somebody's road won't get paved." They gave McConnell's campaign manager, County Attorney Eggers, a $25,000 raise, and even the Journal can't figure out how much money he's actually making. Then a few weeks ago they gave his son John Eggers a $30,000-a-year job at the county park, a job which was specially created for him. And that's just the tip of the iceberg.
Let's not forget Mr. McGinnis. He was just named a VP of Duke Homes and he is a County Commissioner. I think we can say that the one party system in this county is failing badly and the good ole boy network is alive and well.

Don't understand why our local papers, either the Daily-Journal or even the Star-South dig into these matters a little bit.

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