Tax relief? Mayors see pain

Tax relief? Mayors see pain

There are 309 comments on the The Indianapolis Star story from Feb 10, 2008, titled Tax relief? Mayors see pain. In it, The Indianapolis Star reports that:

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Huh

Indianapolis, IN

#1 Feb 10, 2008
Everybody from these towns are talking about cutting services, but none of them are talking about cutting spending. They talk about laying off firefighters and police as a way to scare everyone. Before any public safety layoffs, they better damn well have shaved every penny they can from everywhee else.
I am not always serious

United States

#2 Feb 10, 2008
Huh wrote:
Everybody from these towns are talking about cutting services, but none of them are talking about cutting spending. They talk about laying off firefighters and police as a way to scare everyone. Before any public safety layoffs, they better damn well have shaved every penny they can from everywhere else.
Amen !!
U R 100% correct. Hopefully, the taxpaying public is not so naive as to fall for this scare tactic crap.
Trouble in Gotham

Florence, KY

#3 Feb 10, 2008
Stop the insanity. Reducing expenses (including human resources/personnel costs) is on the agenda of the people-yes, it happens in non-profits and private companies every year where wonderful, long-term jobs are eliminated.

Schools and governments must now engage their own budgets in trimming costs, not services. Get rid of excess fat (including people) but don't cut services. If a city is not charging for garbage disposal, ambulance runs, etc-it should.

Obviously, the mayors mentioned above may need to removed from office for creating fear (false evidence appearing real) for thier comments.
Just a scare tactic

West Manchester, OH

#4 Feb 10, 2008
That is about what I was going to say. Its just a scare tactic.
Schools are the biggest culprits. Stop the waste there. They will use the old tired phrase "we got to do it for our children". Ive heard that all my life.
Dennis_Daviess Co

River Falls, WI

#5 Feb 10, 2008
We are going to hear all of these mayors say how bad it is but they haven't set down and did the math yet. They don't need to cut services. I'm sure if they looked close enough in each dept. they could find a lot to cut. Heck even in the town I live in every time you see the street being dug up you have 2 people that do all of the work and you have about 7 or 8 setting around in pickup trucks playing supervisor. I would say out of that they could lose about 6 of the so called bosses that set around eating up tax money and doing nothing in the way of what you call work. You don't need ten bosses for every worker. And when they buy trucks they buy the ones that cost an arm and leg and keep on costing in operating cost by setting at a job site keeping a bunch of no working people warm. There's all kinds of ways for them to cut spending. It's just that they have had everything given to them on a silver platter for so long that they think they are entitled to that money and not cut spending anywhere. They have had it too easy for so long that they have no idea how to budget anything less than what they expect they should be given each year. I'm sure a lot of department heads could cut the fat if they would just look around some. You don't need ten chiefs for every three Indians.
SOUTHENDER

Louisville, KY

#6 Feb 10, 2008
Spending cut's should be 1st priority, then learning how to budget what they get.
Budget

AOL

#7 Feb 10, 2008
I have a budget for my home. It is based on what I make. I don't get to decide what I want, then tell my boss how much I want him to pay me. It is about time the government learned to do this as well.
Jesse

Miamisburg, OH

#8 Feb 10, 2008
How about reducing the budget of the trustee in each of these cities? It is about time the recieptient of welfare tightens their belt, like the taxpayers are always asked to do.
I agree with the first post. When services need to be cut it is always something used by taxpayers but TAXUSERS are never asked to contribute.
Besides welfare kills children, six and counting in Marion County alone.
Stop the insanity, welfare is slavery.
Sharon

New London, MN

#9 Feb 10, 2008
Dennis_Daviess Co wrote:
We are going to hear all of these mayors say how bad it is but they haven't set down and did the math yet. They don't need to cut services. I'm sure if they looked close enough in each dept. they could find a lot to cut. Heck even in the town I live in every time you see the street being dug up you have 2 people that do all of the work and you have about 7 or 8 setting around in pickup trucks playing supervisor. I would say out of that they could lose about 6 of the so called bosses that set around eating up tax money and doing nothing in the way of what you call work. You don't need ten bosses for every worker. And when they buy trucks they buy the ones that cost an arm and leg and keep on costing in operating cost by setting at a job site keeping a bunch of no working people warm. There's all kinds of ways for them to cut spending. It's just that they have had everything given to them on a silver platter for so long that they think they are entitled to that money and not cut spending anywhere. They have had it too easy for so long that they have no idea how to budget anything less than what they expect they should be given each year. I'm sure a lot of department heads could cut the fat if they would just look around some. You don't need ten chiefs for every three Indians.
All I can say is Amen. You hit the nail on the head!
Indy Rick

Woodworth, WI

#10 Feb 10, 2008
The statement by the Marine that his staff will have to drive Toyota Prius' is just an example of how short sighted the man truly is. While their gas mileage is much higher than the current vehicles,(Crown Victorias and Tauruses)their acquisition cost is higher as well. If he truly wanted to save money, how about a Ford Focus, or Dodge Caliber, which have retail costs THOUSANDS below the Toyota which will more than make up any difference in mileage savings over the life of the vehicle.

He is so living in another world if the thinks that Marion county can provide the services and education we have now with that drop in property tax revenue and no source to replace it.
Net or gross

Panama City, FL

#11 Feb 10, 2008
Are the figures published by the Star regarding supposed lost revenue net the savings local governments and schools will realize with the State taking over all school transportation costs and remaining operating costs? I bet not. Regardless, I have no sympathy for the local governments and schools crying over how much money they will no longer have to waste.

Since: Dec 06

Indianapolis

#12 Feb 10, 2008
Indy Rick wrote:
The statement by the Marine that his staff will have to drive Toyota Prius' is just an example of how short sighted the man truly is. While their gas mileage is much higher than the current vehicles,(Crown Victorias and Tauruses)their acquisition cost is higher as well. If he truly wanted to save money, how about a Ford Focus, or Dodge Caliber, which have retail costs THOUSANDS below the Toyota which will more than make up any difference in mileage savings over the life of the vehicle.
He is so living in another world if the thinks that Marion county can provide the services and education we have now with that drop in property tax revenue and no source to replace it.
Rick, Don’t be so short sighted. Ballard said his team was going to “look” at Toyota Prius. They have made no decision on buying them. You sound as if you are sorry that Bart lost by jumping to conclusions so quick.

We need less “service” in this country. When did we appoint the government to provide so many services that many do not even use? Yes, we need police, fire and road upkeep. Put normal libraries and schools and we just cut millions out of the budget.
Big swimming pools and sports complexes for high school does not educate kids. It takes time away from them being on the streets that the parents should have been doing in the first place.
Good

Indianapolis, IN

#13 Feb 10, 2008
Oh, the poor mayors have to actually think of ways to manage. They are used to being fat cats with unlimited money. Property taxes became oppressive and need to be abolished. With property taxes you can never own your home. You are always renting it from the government. User fees are the best way to go. If you use a service than you should pay for that service.
Warren Twnship Resident

Frankfort, IN

#14 Feb 10, 2008
It all boils down to politicians attempting to protect their sacred cow.
Warren Twnship Resident

Frankfort, IN

#15 Feb 10, 2008
When I was a kid in high school (60's) we went to the park to swim, play ball or whatever. We need to improve the QUALITY of education and stop funding palaces.
RGW

Redwood City, CA

#16 Feb 10, 2008
It is certainly going to be interesting, isn't it? I will save my comments for after the "hammer" falls in all of this mess. Until then, have a great day!
The Joker

Indianapolis, IN

#17 Feb 10, 2008
"Fewer police and firefighters. Fees for trash pickup. Fees to use a park's baseball diamond. Snow plowed less often. Higher income taxes."

Ah, The Joker has heard this before. I think it is time for the politicos to come up with a newer rallying cry - because as we say in TEXAS - "that dog ain't goin' to hunt!"

Did I hear elections baby?
Rich9188

Wheeling, IL

#18 Feb 10, 2008
If the city is still paying more than 10.00 an hour for people to pick up the trash, how about using people that is drawing welfare, they are being paid to set on their butt, so why not expect them to do a little work for their money. If that don't get the job done, cut the welfare back to min. wage level, and no extra money for more children. I know that would not be the best thing to do, but then again, getting paid for doing no work is not a good thing either. Changing the name of the welfare office back to state employment office would also be the right the too.
GET IT

Marysville, OH

#19 Feb 10, 2008
These politicians (including mayors) just don't get it. We want spending cut drastically, not shifting around of taxes.

I'm sure they will hold some basic services hostage so they can continue to fund their pet projects, but we need to call them out on it and get the details of where the money is being spent.
Ben Franklin

Florence, KY

#20 Feb 10, 2008
Jesse wrote:
Besides welfare kills children, six and counting in Marion County alone.
Prohibition kills, not welfare.

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