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Nuclear bomb exercise will test region's response

Full story: The Indianapolis Star

Indiana's homeland security readiness will be tested later this month with the simulated detonation of a nuclear bomb somewhere in the Hoosier state, the U.S. Northern Command said.

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Kumar

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Apr 17, 2007
 
"later this month with the simulated detonation of a nuclear bomb somewhere in the Hoosier state, the U.S. Northern Command said."

I'm going to take a wild guess on the simulated bomb location....an amish popcorn factory?

Are these 'simulations' going to do anything anyway? We all know how well that hurricane simulation prepared us for Katrina....it was completely ignored.

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Apr 17, 2007
 
The katrina drill was ignored by the locals, not the feds. Remember, in a disaster it is the locals who have primary responsibility with support later on from the feds. Too many believe it is the feds who are primary with the locals being secondary. The biggest problem with the drill is the timing. Apparently no one planning this drill knows about events that take place during the month of May in Indianapolis.
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Apr 17, 2007
 
Hey Fed, your weak spot is,and has been, the southern border.

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#4
Apr 17, 2007
 
Do they know something we don't know? FEMA showed up the night before 911 for "training". So, I'm guessing we should prepare ourselves for this too. Never thought we would live like the show Jericho. Scary.
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#5
Apr 17, 2007
 
10 megs is only a suitcase bomb. New York had better be doing this training. Maximum fallout would have the bomb detonate at about 70 stories up. Where are the 70 story buildings in Ind.? I would be seriously dissappointed if Ind. says it was det at ground level. Nice crater.
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#6
Apr 17, 2007
 
Let's be more realistic, a bomb detonated in the stands during the 500, initial kill small, but panic stampeeding will take out thousands.
Same with the new stadium. Flyover spray of caustic chemicals, sniper on top of private boxes, poisoning of eagle creek reservoir, school buses blowing up at off-loading times. These are things I worry about
far more than nuclear attack. Let the east coast enjoy that concern.
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#7
Apr 17, 2007
 
Let's hope they can do a better job responding to a nuclear disaster than the authorities did to the Va. Tech. shootings.
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#8
Apr 17, 2007
 
Here's one question that always bothers me--why are we giving this info out to the general public? This is just another way of giving ideas to terrorists on how to attack us. Once the drill is over there will be a report given that says where our weakness is and what we can do to stop and how long we expect to get the measures in place to correct the weakness. Lets just hope that type of responsible reporting steps in and the problems are not revealed until AFTER they are corrected
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Apr 17, 2007
 
You ever hear of the neutron bomb? Destroys people - leaves buildings standing. Fits in a suitcase. It's so small, no one knows it's there until - BLAMMO. Eyes melt, skin explodes, everybody dead. So immoral, working on the thing can drive you mad.
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Apr 17, 2007
 
Hey folks, before everybody starts chipping in their two cents about why this exercise shouldn't be held in Indiana, think about this. The reason it's held here is because of space. The places being used can accomodate all the participants, their gear and any authorized observers. Everything that is sensative can be secured and anything they don't want the public or bad guys to see, can be protected from prying eyes. That is why the training is being done here.

Would you guys much rather these exercies get run in the cities and towns of this country. I bet then people would be complaining that 5 tons, HMMWV's, extra police, fire and EMS vehicles would be crawling all over town messing up traffic and being noisy.

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#11
Apr 17, 2007
 
Exactly! You can't blame FEMA entirely for the effects of Katrina. Some state and local officials prepared in advance and requested help early. Others, for whatever reason, did not.
Tom H wrote:
The katrina drill was ignored by the locals, not the feds. Remember, in a disaster it is the locals who have primary responsibility with support later on from the feds. Too many believe it is the feds who are primary with the locals being secondary. The biggest problem with the drill is the timing. Apparently no one planning this drill knows about events that take place during the month of May in Indianapolis.
False Flag Warning

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Apr 17, 2007
 
FEMA assembled in NYC on the night before 9/11, and the airliner attacks took place at the very same time that NORAD was conducting Vigilant Gaurdian and Vigilant Warrior - an annual excercise where terrorists try to run hijacked planes into buildings. That's why the first response to the FAA by NORAD dispatchers was "Is this real world, or exercise?" They were running their annual Vigilant Warrior training operation.

Google: "Vigilant Gaurdian".

The London Underground bombings coincided at the exact same time as a large bombing response excercise was scheduled to take place in the same three tubes that were bombed. Emergency response personnel were already assembled outside of each location.

Google: Coincidence bomb exercises

These kinds of attacks are historicaly known as False Flag attacks. The name comes from naval attacks where a ship would fly a foreign flag in order to start trouble between two rival nations.

It is becoming common knowledge that the Gulf of Tonkin event was a False Flag conducted by the US to generate national support for the war in Vietnam. The following link takes you to the recently released National Security Archives detailing that deception:

http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB132...

The following link gives a detailed description of False Flag events, including links to the original Operation Northwoods documents where the US Joint Chiefs of Staff approved a plan in the 60's to simulate hijackings and terror attacks on US soil, in order to blame them on Cuba:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_flag

Now we have a scheduled nuclear response training scenario taking place in three states. These types of drills take place on a regular basis and are typically no reason for alarm, but they are reasons to be aware of the possibility of another False Flag event.

We're told that we are in a generational struggle, a global war on terror, and that it won't be over in our lifetimes. That means that in order for the corporate controlled US government to continue using Americans to globalize the enemy, Americans must continue to believe that there's an imminent deadly threat.

The nuclear response teams will be in place, meaning that the possibility of a False Flag operation exists. Follow the above Google search recommendations and see it for yourself. And be aware that if a nuclear event coincides with any of these exercises, there is plenty of precedent for similar events taking place in order to generate national support for corporate drive foreign policy efforts.
This is only a test

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Apr 17, 2007
 
How exciting. "Kids, sit in the hallway and put your hands behind your head and close your eyes." Close the windows and turn off the ventilation. Don't go outside until the trees grow back.
This is only a test

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Apr 17, 2007
 
Hey they got to use up all that money somehow.
petrified of nuke bombs

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Apr 17, 2007
 
J Frank Parnell wrote:
You ever hear of the neutron bomb? Destroys people - leaves buildings standing. Fits in a suitcase. It's so small, no one knows it's there until - BLAMMO. Eyes melt, skin explodes, everybody dead. So immoral, working on the thing can drive you mad.
Not developed yet. Or is it?
Blinded by the light

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Apr 17, 2007
 
A little info wrote:
Hey folks, before everybody starts chipping in their two cents about why this exercise shouldn't be held in Indiana, think about this. The reason it's held here is because of space. The places being used can accomodate all the participants, their gear and any authorized observers. Everything that is sensative can be secured and anything they don't want the public or bad guys to see, can be protected from prying eyes. That is why the training is being done here.
Would you guys much rather these exercies get run in the cities and towns of this country. I bet then people would be complaining that 5 tons, HMMWV's, extra police, fire and EMS vehicles would be crawling all over town messing up traffic and being noisy.
The reason its being held here is because its being held in every state. Every state got millions of taxpayer dollars to protect our state. We choose to blow it this way. On the longshot.
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Apr 17, 2007
 
Blinded by the light wrote:
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The reason its being held here is because its being held in every state. Every state got millions of taxpayer dollars to protect our state. We choose to blow it this way. On the longshot.
Whatever blinded, not every state has what we have in the way training facilites and manpower that are readily available for long periods of time. Walk out of starbucks for a few minutes and realize this. I'm not blind, I know more about why things happen in Indiana then you do.
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Apr 18, 2007
 
False Flag Warning wrote:
FEMA assembled in NYC on the night before 9/11, and the airliner attacks took place at the very same time that NORAD was conducting Vigilant Gaurdian and Vigilant Warrior - an annual excercise where terrorists try to run hijacked planes into buildings. That's why the first response to the FAA by NORAD dispatchers was "Is this real world, or exercise?" They were running their annual Vigilant Warrior training operation.
Google: "Vigilant Gaurdian".
The London Underground bombings coincided at the exact same time as a large bombing response excercise was scheduled to take place in the same three tubes that were bombed. Emergency response personnel were already assembled outside of each location.
Google: Coincidence bomb exercises
These kinds of attacks are historicaly known as False Flag attacks. The name comes from naval attacks where a ship would fly a foreign flag in order to start trouble between two rival nations.
It is becoming common knowledge that the Gulf of Tonkin event was a False Flag conducted by the US to generate national support for the war in Vietnam. The following link takes you to the recently released National Security Archives detailing that deception:
http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB132...
The following link gives a detailed description of False Flag events, including links to the original Operation Northwoods documents where the US Joint Chiefs of Staff approved a plan in the 60's to simulate hijackings and terror attacks on US soil, in order to blame them on Cuba:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_flag
Now we have a scheduled nuclear response training scenario taking place in three states. These types of drills take place on a regular basis and are typically no reason for alarm, but they are reasons to be aware of the possibility of another False Flag event.
We're told that we are in a generational struggle, a global war on terror, and that it won't be over in our lifetimes. That means that in order for the corporate controlled US government to continue using Americans to globalize the enemy, Americans must continue to believe that there's an imminent deadly threat.
The nuclear response teams will be in place, meaning that the possibility of a False Flag operation exists. Follow the above Google search recommendations and see it for yourself. And be aware that if a nuclear event coincides with any of these exercises, there is plenty of precedent for similar events taking place in order to generate national support for corporate drive foreign policy efforts.
So let me guess here:
9/11 was staged by the US according to you, correct?
And if there is a problem tomorrow the US caused that one as well?
I'll believe that when pro wrestling is classified an olympic event
False Flag Warning

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Apr 18, 2007
 
PT parent wrote:
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So let me guess here:
9/11 was staged by the US according to you, correct?
And if there is a problem tomorrow the US caused that one as well?
I'll believe that when pro wrestling is classified an olympic event
It would be a huge misnomer to suggest that "the US" staged 9/11. A more correct statement would be "rogue elements at high levels in the US governemnt staged the events. There are very few US government officials whose ideology would support the catastrophic event that the PNAC determined (and published in 2000) would be necessary to generate public support fo their stated goal of US global supremacy.

With regards to false flag events, I've simply reviewed the facts surrounding past cases where "training missions" have coincided directly with cataclysmic events that have driven massive changes in foreign and domestic policy. That doesn't imply that the individuals who were participating in the training events had any knowledge of rogue activities. They are as much a victim as everyone else.

If you've followed my search suggestions and the links in my earlier post, and you have determined that these past training events and false flag operations have no significance, then you have done your homework and come to the most logical conclusion that you can find. That's more than fair. But if you've reached your conclusions without following through with my suggestions, you haven't taken the necessary steps to make a concrete determination.

As a conservative, as someone who values the protection of the US Constitution, and as someone who hopes to preserve the liberties and security that are maintained by honest leadership and honest media reporting, I make it a point to look further than what is being reported and than what is being advanced by many government officials who have more loyalty to globalist objectives than they do towards America.

It's in our best interest as a nation to be vigilant of government and to arm ourselves with facts that go unreported by an increasingly ideological media. That's why I raised my concerns regarding these upcoming training exercises. For those people who move past their beliefs that we have a benevolent leadership, and who take the time to look at the facts, their IS a history of similar staged training events that coincide with attacks. It would be extremely irresponsible to have this awareness yet to not make it clear to other Americans that this possibility does exist.

I appreciate your comments and your concerns regarding my initial post. It shows that you have a great respect for the US and for the role of our government. We need more of that in this country. At the same time, I hope that you would look further into my claims on this matter. If we have elements operating within our government whose goal is to prey upon our good faith, it would be a travesty if their actions resulted in us collectively agreeing to a minimization or dismissal of many of our Constitutionally protected rights.
Blinded by the light

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Apr 19, 2007
 
A little info wrote:
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Whatever blinded, not every state has what we have in the way training facilites and manpower that are readily available for long periods of time. Walk out of starbucks for a few minutes and realize this. I'm not blind, I know more about why things happen in Indiana then you do.
You must be on the take. How much did you get? I bet you sell this BS to all the scared sheep. You guys will probably say we are either underfunded and you need more money or you are so ready and things went smooth as silk. Either way you jerks do a lot of nothing and waste taxpayer money.
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