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Treatment ordered for Wisconsin mom who ran off with daughters to B...

There are 16 comments on the TwinCities.com story from Sep 13, 2010, titled Treatment ordered for Wisconsin mom who ran off with daughters to B.... In it, TwinCities.com reports that:

Kaiya Walker, a woman who ran off with her two daughters and a loaded handgun last fall, needs mental health treatment, not incarceration, a Jackson County judge has ruled.

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icmeanadipjob

Delano, MN

#1 Sep 13, 2010
Obviously this woman felt her life was under threat all the time. If former husband was her abuser along with others. Tell me then, why in the he!!!!!!! isn't that P O S sitting in jail with her and why on God's green earth does he have custody of those children? And unless the prosecutor can without a doubt prove it, that typical prosecutor cannot assume she meant to kill her children with that gun. That is only conjecture.
DOOBER

United States

#2 Sep 13, 2010
A retard with a hand gun and overdoseing on meds is no danger? Give me a break!
personallyaffect ed

Plymouth, MN

#3 Sep 13, 2010
Thank you Icmeanadipjob.... this woman was pushed so far that she did what she did... not saying it was right but it is having an affect on the situation that she lost all control of! Her intent was to take her own life not the girls.. again not right but pushed to a mental break.. and she has gotten and is getting help while he drinks and refuses help and the girls presently live with A gun toteing/suicidal/alcoholic father with a mean hearted/resentful/slanderous step mother." Much much better of a place for them to be... I think not... go find all the police reports the Walkers have racked up... domestics... disorderly conducts.... restraining orders against them to stay away from Jon's other kids.... and the one from 7/29/2010 where he threatened to take his own life and hit is wife with the gun and ran into the woods... in the presences of these same girls!
Skip

Buffalo, MN

#4 Sep 13, 2010
Another example of the liberal jusges BS! Society is in danger because these pansy a hole judges wont punish people for their poor decisions.

Since: Jun 10

The Thunder Mansion

#5 Sep 13, 2010
As a mother, don't you pretty much have to be homeless to not get custody of the kids in a divorce? Unless there is way more information about this story elsewhere, I think that some of the people here are being a little to easy to judge the dad based on this specific article. Saying for a fact that she had no intention of harming the girls is just as presumptuous as saying that she did intend to.

Since: Jul 10

White Bear Lake, MN

#6 Sep 13, 2010
The judge ruled that woman is not a threat to the public. This after saying "I have to assume at one point she was prepared to take the lives of her children and her own life". Not a thre the the public, just her daughters and herself. I believe Judge Lister used poor judgement.
Imagine

Saint Paul, MN

#7 Sep 13, 2010
Anyone want to speculate about what the jail time and other punishment would have been had the father done this instead of the mother?
Imagine

Saint Paul, MN

#8 Sep 13, 2010
bobxray wrote:
As a mother, don't you pretty much have to be homeless to not get custody of the kids in a divorce? Unless there is way more information about this story elsewhere, I think that some of the people here are being a little to easy to judge the dad based on this specific article. Saying for a fact that she had no intention of harming the girls is just as presumptuous as saying that she did intend to.
Homeless, a drug dealer, AND forcing the kids to make kiddie porn. Otherwise, the Dad is still the bad guy, no matter what!
personallyaffect ed

Plymouth, MN

#9 Sep 13, 2010
The point here is that poor decisions were made on both sides and one side affected the actions of another. They all need help! This mother did have custory and thinking she was in her rights to move to within 150 miles of her ex and did so years ago... into MN.. that is the main reason she lost custody. Little does anyone in here know that his have been going on for more then 5 years. It is interesing to sit back and read the rantings of people who will take a side to a story only knowing what they just read... as far as judging the dad.. I have years of experience to draw my conclusion.. anyone else here "personallyaffected" anyone have a step mother tell their child that his/her mother is evil..tell your other childrens friends that "so and so's mom is a pyscho".. call people using every nasty prophane word in the book because a parent stood up for their child... There are 2 boys that these 2 people have taken no interest in because they could not get control of them.(Oldest son just gratuated and the step mom did not even attend, something about not getting to sit on the main floor.. seriously!!!) No slip on the parts of their mother's (Yes this man has 4 kids by 3 women, none of which are the step mothers).. I feel sorry for these girls because the adults here used them to get back at each other and then as the judge said poisoned them... Thank goodness the boys are not and that their mothers put them first and foremost... but yet they are still affected by the disfuncion of the entire situation. The entire situation dealt with control and selfishness of Adults..
Notanostrich

De Soto, WI

#10 Sep 13, 2010
The outcome of this incident sickens me. Were it a man who performed so admirably under such duress, he'd be spending the next 20 years playing with Bubba. Disgusting, our child custody and justice system for differentiating so much between men and women. This is an extreme case that should be handled with extreme measures, such as jailing the woman for years and treating inside the institution. "Not a threat...?" What? She had drugs to "overmedicate" herself, and a loaded handgun. And what kind of friend hands over a loaded pistol? Clearly, that friend did not notice any reason whatsoever not to give it to her, meaning her mental state must have been pretty stable at the time. It's just another pile of c rap piled on men (notice how it was the man who was blamed for this incident, as if he forced the woman to run away with the children with a purse full of drugs and a loaded pistol... did you notice that?) Sickening. Pathetic, and a testament to the inequalities present in our child custody system. Sad, but so, so true.
bodiddle

Kenosha, WI

#11 Sep 13, 2010
Skip wrote:
Another example of the liberal jusges BS! Society is in danger because these pansy **** judges wont punish people for their poor decisions.
Society is in danger because of macho male fools throwing their weight around and abusing spouses and children. And that's a fact Jack!!!
bodiddle

Kenosha, WI

#12 Sep 13, 2010
Notanostrich wrote:
The outcome of this incident sickens me. Were it a man who performed so admirably under such duress, he'd be spending the next 20 years playing with Bubba. Disgusting, our child custody and justice system for differentiating so much between men and women. This is an extreme case that should be handled with extreme measures, such as jailing the woman for years and treating inside the institution. "Not a threat...?" What? She had drugs to "overmedicate" herself, and a loaded handgun. And what kind of friend hands over a loaded pistol? Clearly, that friend did not notice any reason whatsoever not to give it to her, meaning her mental state must have been pretty stable at the time. It's just another pile of c rap piled on men (notice how it was the man who was blamed for this incident, as if he forced the woman to run away with the children with a purse full of drugs and a loaded pistol... did you notice that?) Sickening. Pathetic, and a testament to the inequalities present in our child custody system. Sad, but so, so true.
Your comments sound too self serving to have any credibility. Obivously you do not know the overwhelming crippling effect of abuse.
Imagine

Saint Paul, MN

#13 Sep 13, 2010
bodiddle wrote:
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Your comments sound too self serving to have any credibility. Obivously you do not know the overwhelming crippling effect of abuse.
And you don't understand how many good fathers are destroyed by a corrupt family law system and women who are all too willing to lie, cheat, and steal to hurt fathers.

Since: Jun 10

The Thunder Mansion

#14 Sep 13, 2010
bodiddle wrote:
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Your comments sound too self serving to have any credibility. Obivously you do not know the overwhelming crippling effect of abuse.
Is it any less abusive on the part of the mother to have her children discover her after her attempted suicide? I'm pretty sure that would have more of an impact on them than anything else that may or may not have been happening.
OliveAnn

Minneapolis, MN

#15 Sep 13, 2010
Imagine wrote:
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And you don't understand how many good fathers are destroyed by a corrupt family law system and women who are all too willing to lie, cheat, and steal to hurt fathers.
You are correct, I know of several situations where just what you detailed has happened. It is no wonder there are "deadbeat dads" after what the court system does to them, especially in Anoka County, wonderful fathers who are treated like criminals based on lying, cheating women who will do anything for the child support paycheck.
personnally affected

Kingston, WA

#16 Sep 13, 2010
but it is okay for the father of these girls to drink on a daily basis... go on rampages in his home with them present...lock himself in a room and say he is going to kill himself.. run out of the room hit the step-mother with the gun and run into the woods... mind you this was in July.. what affect did that have on them. He was not thinking of how they would feel, he was not thinking that at that time he was all they had... no he continues to drink after being court ordered not to. He continues to drive drunk with them in the vehicle.. He would have gotten a chapter 51 he they could have found him... want the police report.. I will send it to you!!! This is a man while on family vacation got so drunk he pissed the bed and the step mother made all the kids come into their room to witness it... Kaiya did wrong and is getting help... what does he get the girls to poison some more and harm emotionally! It sickens me to see the ranting again of people who have been scarred by something not going their way in the courts... this my friends is Karma at her best.. they lied and cheated and got custody.. now their way of life is under the spotlight and it will not be long before the ugly truth is exposed and Karma bites them.... Oh and child support... funny he did what ever he could to get out of it... that is the excuse used to why he did not see his kids... too busy working for cash cause he paid to much.. his choice to have 4 kids by 3 women and not mentally able to keep a relationship with any of them...

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