Drug Testing in West Plains Schools Proposed

Jul 29, 2010 | Posted by: roboblogger | Full story: KSPR

A Howell County school district is considering a drug testing policy for students.

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Since: May 10

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Jul 29, 2010
 
Interested to see what others think about the possibility of this law being implemented in our school districts.

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Jul 29, 2010
 
:P I see many suspensions beginning the first day that proposal goes into effect.

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Jul 29, 2010
 
According to the short blurb from KSPR... it appears that only those involved in outside activities will be tested... As well, I'm wondering what the "punishment" for failing a test is...
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Aug 2, 2010
 
In referring to outside activities are you saying extracurricular activities? Either way I think its great. Boy would there be some surprised parents. Especially of they integrated k-2 into the tests.
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I think this will happen. I think the drug problem in our schools is bad and always has been. Not lumping all of the kids together, but if it is impemented, the results will be shocking.
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They SHOULD be drug testing the TEACHERS!!!
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Aug 3, 2010
 
Drug testing should be for everyone inculding our city workers,including staff,everyone who draws a check or makes a difference for our city.Start at the city court house with no warning.You would be shocked the cover-ups!
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As long as they start with the administration and follow the line all the way down to the students, then it would be great. Oh and lets not forget the bus drivers either.
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Aug 3, 2010
 
Bus drivers are already subject to random drug testing .
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Aug 3, 2010
 
i agree testing anyone in public work needs tested and school students or personell should be done. If drugs are in anyones system, they are not doing a complete job of learning or teaching. It probably wouldn't hurt to check the county offices & for sure any one on unemployment or any welfare services...

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I'm so sad at this. Really parents where the hell are you on this one? Our kids need our support. By God my children have rights to and they will not be tested by no school! I will home school them first. I don't think it's the drugs we need to be worried about. It's the lack of parental involvement in our children's lives. Its the problem of not knowing where you children are, who they are hanging out with, what they are doing, and communicating with them. It's the fact that teachers do not want parents in the the kids schooling and life. I'm not lumping all teachers but as an active mom of my children, I have ran into many issues where the parents are shunned for wanting to be involved. Our school systems are bad... and not just in drug ways! But it's not the kids nor just the teachers... IT'S THE PARENTS!
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maybe you are not old enough to realize it is not the these kids are raised anymore. If is the fact that there are so many kids daring to try new things, they temporarily forget their raising. I have known of a lot of really good parents whose kids have turned out thoughtless and worthless. It is certainly not the parents or teachers fault all of the time. It is the kids that rebel.
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i think its a load of crap,,we all know a certain few will always be tested,,and a certain few in the clicks wont,,its a way to try and fix the drug problem in this school,,and they will test an test the same few until they test posative and then make a big deal out of how they caught the bad kids,,but the certain few will never have there names tested,,like i said,,a load of crap,,if there gunna test for drugs,,test every kid an every teacher every month,,and bring in people from out of town to do the testing,,the state will fund this program,,even if they wont,,us tax payers can add a half cent tax to do so,,if r-7 wants to fix the drug problem,,then fix the drug problem,,i have worked for 30 yrs with this random drug testing,,and it is as rigged as the san fran sisco bridge on cables,,and this juvie dept,,there as crooked as they come,,going after certain kids an not after a certain few,,drug test every kid an teacher random,,with out the school knowing when its gunna happen,,this is just like the no kid left behind law,,do you know how many kids that cant read at a 6th grade level when they gradyuate,,the drop out rate,,the kids left behind cuz there not in the click,,and r-7 wins all these rewards for the school,,they couldnt win if the truth be known,,they give the state wrong info to win these awards,,just my opinion,,good day
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Lets teach the kids early on to give up the notion of freedom. Lets drug test everyone in our country. Can I invest in these drug testing products prior to it being implemented so that I can make a buck?
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----"By God my children have rights to and they will not be tested by no school! I will home school them first. I don't think it's the drugs we need to be worried about. It's the lack of parental involvement"---
Boy, the ignorance is shining on this post! By NOT allowing your children to be drug tested tells me you know your kid will test positive, resulting them to find out who their supplier is..you the parent!
WHY ELSE would a parent not want to have their kid tested or attend a "cleaner" school. Please dont be so closeminded, SOME of us care about how are kids are and who they hang with.
As far as the "test the busdrivers" statement...I use to drive for R-7 in 2006, and yes they randomly test their drivers. I can not say that about the teachers. I was actually told they were not tested, period! I dont know that for a fact, so delete that comment.
My 13 yr old told me some of his friends do drugs and that the community will be shocked at who it prevails. They have already opened their mouth, they would be smart to test ALL of the students and not just handpicked ones. THAT could lead to lawsuits. I agree some students are more public about their usage, but some are too "known" in the community and use them in hiding.
I am talking from elementary students on. West Plains school are loaded with drugs. I can only pray my child is smarter and more educated and says "NO!"
I am recoverying addict and he has seen my struggles in the past, and his father's (my ex) active addiction. I can only pray that he sees what is has done to me and what is still be taken away from his father.
As far as the testing, you have my vote. Sometimes being caught is what it takes.
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Karma wrote:
Lets teach the kids early on to give up the notion of freedom. Lets drug test everyone in our country. Can I invest in these drug testing products prior to it being implemented so that I can make a buck?
Better start investing now, because it is the wave of the future. Grave digger is right about the tests. They randomly drug test kids, to the outside person it looks like they tested some really good kids, some fair kids, some questionable kids and some bad kids. From those kids the person taking the samples takes a colored marker and puts a dot or a check on it and this is the sample to be tested. The person taking the samples is given a list of people beforehand for sure that will be tested and that person throws in a few more based on proir knowledge of a person or appearance of that person or they know the parents. Random drug tests are a joke.

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LilMissWhoGivesADamn wrote:
I'm so sad at this. Really parents where the hell are you on this one? Our kids need our support. By God my children have rights to and they will not be tested by no school! I will home school them first. I don't think it's the drugs we need to be worried about. It's the lack of parental involvement in our children's lives. Its the problem of not knowing where you children are, who they are hanging out with, what they are doing, and communicating with them. It's the fact that teachers do not want parents in the the kids schooling and life. I'm not lumping all teachers but as an active mom of my children, I have ran into many issues where the parents are shunned for wanting to be involved. Our school systems are bad... and not just in drug ways! But it's not the kids nor just the teachers... IT'S THE PARENTS!
I have to say, I agree with the proposed policy of drug testing. As a parent, it is my responsibility to oversee my child's education and other important factors that contribute to it. Lack of parental involvement can be construed a number of different ways... You make the comment as if it is a CHOICE for some parents. While many parents choose to ignore their children and do not actively participate in their life, others are forced into the position... the single mom who is working two jobs and raising her children without child support... I seriously doubt if she intends to ignore her kids needs, but sometimes it happens... she is certainly not going to know where her kids are every minute of every day... even the best, most trustworthy kid has been known to make a mistake.
Drug testing in schools is simply one more reassurance that your kids understand the dangers and repercussions of using. You get caught... these are the consequences...
We tell our children not to do any number of things as they grow up... can you honestly sit back and say that you have NEVER had to get onto your kids for doing something that you told them not to? It's kids, human nature to want to try new things and experiment... why not have something to reinforce good behaviors! Not to mention... if mine aren't using and yours are... guess what... I don't want them in school with my kids... this would certainly prevent a bunch of dope dealers from roaming the hall...
My only concern is in WHO they test! It should not be JUST those involved in extracurricular activities... EVERY student, teacher, aide, from the top to the bottom should have to be tested. What is the point in making sure all your athletes are "clean", if you continue to have users and pushers roaming the hallways...
As a parent, my kids will submit to drug testing... we have nothing to hide. My kids are aware of the dangers of drugs and know the consequences... I trust that their sample will be clean, because I believe in my kids. You say support your kids...I am supporting my kids... by keeping the users and dealers out of their lives and allowing them to focus solely on their education!

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WPwoman wrote:
----"By God my children have rights to and they will not be tested by no school! I will home school them first. I don't think it's the drugs we need to be worried about. It's the lack of parental involvement"---
Boy, the ignorance is shining on this post! By NOT allowing your children to be drug tested tells me you know your kid will test positive, resulting them to find out who their supplier is..you the parent!
WHY ELSE would a parent not want to have their kid tested or attend a "cleaner" school. Please dont be so closeminded, SOME of us care about how are kids are and who they hang with.
As far as the "test the busdrivers" statement...I use to drive for R-7 in 2006, and yes they randomly test their drivers. I can not say that about the teachers. I was actually told they were not tested, period! I dont know that for a fact, so delete that comment.
My 13 yr old told me some of his friends do drugs and that the community will be shocked at who it prevails. They have already opened their mouth, they would be smart to test ALL of the students and not just handpicked ones. THAT could lead to lawsuits. I agree some students are more public about their usage, but some are too "known" in the community and use them in hiding.
I am talking from elementary students on. West Plains school are loaded with drugs. I can only pray my child is smarter and more educated and says "NO!"
I am recoverying addict and he has seen my struggles in the past, and his father's (my ex) active addiction. I can only pray that he sees what is has done to me and what is still be taken away from his father.
As far as the testing, you have my vote. Sometimes being caught is what it takes.
For one thing I am far from ignorant, but thank you. Why the hell do you think our soldiers are over dying???? Really? Is your freedom of any sort not worth shit to you? Really? My children are with good parents thank you very much. I do know what my kids do and yes I agree "good parents" are going to have spoiled kids. But those parents are usually the ones who do not talk to their kids or do anything with them. kids will mess up and get into trouble no matter their raising because they to are kids and will experiment. We can not teach them all by words or even actions. But those that we are open and talking to will prevail! My children may only be children but I as a parent and here to make sure that this is not ever a communist society in which the people rule over everyone else. I am the parent and I will stand for my childrens freedom for as long as they can possibly have it. Because as we know our freedoms are quite limited!!!

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LilMissWhoGivesADamn wrote:
<quoted text>For one thing I am far from ignorant, but thank you. Why the hell do you think our soldiers are over dying???? Really? Is your freedom of any sort not worth shit to you? Really? My children are with good parents thank you very much. I do know what my kids do and yes I agree "good parents" are going to have spoiled kids. But those parents are usually the ones who do not talk to their kids or do anything with them. kids will mess up and get into trouble no matter their raising because they to are kids and will experiment. We can not teach them all by words or even actions. But those that we are open and talking to will prevail! My children may only be children but I as a parent and here to make sure that this is not ever a communist society in which the people rule over everyone else. I am the parent and I will stand for my childrens freedom for as long as they can possibly have it. Because as we know our freedoms are quite limited!!!
I am not trying to argue your right to an opinion, but would just like to point out a few things...
I don't necessarily believe that drug testing is "communist"... not if it is done for ALL students. There should be no specifics required to make the drug test mandatory.. ie... band member, sports, etc... if you are a student... you get a test... PERIOD!
I guess I view this in a different light... I'm not seeing this testing as an impingement on my child's freedom, rather as another weapon in the fight against drugs. You acknowledge yourself that kids most likely will experiment... random testing might make them think twice about it. I also agree with another poster who stated that sometimes the best thing that can happen to someone is to get caught... Frequently, parents raise their child with their head in the sand believing that only OTHER kids are involved... NEVER theirs! I guess I understand that some parents want the ultimate say so in raising their child... but I personally believe the saying that it takes a village... and I don't want the village idiots (or drug user)help! LOL
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the grave digger knows the secret to let our kids grow up in r-7 schools drug free,,kill the drug dealers,,,ha haa haaa,,aint no dealers,,aint no drugs,,,ha haa haaa

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