Speed camera bill closer to passing

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The Howard County Police Department this week moved one step closer to being able to use cameras to catch speeders on select county roads.
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Anonyim

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Jan 31, 2008
 
This bill has nothing to do with safety, it's all about revenue. Why do you think they're targeting "select" roads with speed limits of less than 45mph? Because they know people generally tend to go over more on smaller roads, especially those closer to home, and they want to generate the maximum revenue. Just look at the red light cameras, do they put them in high traffic intersections well-known for red light running? No! They put them in out of the way places you wouldn't think to look. If there is one thing about government (be it state, local, or federal) that you can count on, it's simply this - that their thirst for more money - YOUR money, is never quenched. However it is always portrayed as being in your best interests. It's for safety, for the children, for this or that, blah blah blah....
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Feb 13, 2008
 
The post by Anonyim is a prime example of someone who has very little knowledge of traffic safety. This person is probably the one who speeds through your neighborhood placing your kids in danger because he is trying to save a couple of minutes. The speed cameras have nothing to do with revenue. They are a deterrent used to prevent people like Anonyim from coming into your neighborhood and driving recklessly. Next time you post something Anonyim you might want to put your biases aside and do some research.
Anonyim

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Feb 14, 2008
 
Oh, what impeccable logic! If someone opposes something, it can only be because they're doing it themselves - brilliant! Following that line of thinking anyone who questions government must be an anarchist and only a criminal would want civilian oversight of the police. Given that mentality you're probably one of those people who crictize privacy advocates by implying they must have something to hide.

How quickly you forget the scandal that was caused in Washington, D.C. a few years back when it was discovered that a portion of the revenue being generated by speed cameras was being kicked back to the company which manufactured them. Or maybe you weren't aware that some jurisdictions have shaved two seconds off the yellow cycle at intersections where red light cameras were installed - but it couldn't possibly be that they were trying to manufacture some violators, could it?

Did you know that rear end collisions have increased since the advent of the cameras, as drivers, fearful of a hefty fine, panic at the first hint of yellow? Yeah....that really increases public safety. Just last winter I saw someone spin through a snow covered intersection because they slammed on the brakes the instant the light began to change in order to avoid being caught on candid camera.

And just where are these hundred mile per hour speed racers you bemoan - you know, the ones supposedly threatining the fabric of our society, terrorizing our children and mowing them down by the dozen? I've been in virtually every neighborhood in Howard County and have yet to see anyone going over 35mph.

Maybe you fantasize about a surveillance utopia wherein big brother montiors your every move, but some of us do not. It's bad enough we're taxed to death without the local governments finding new ways to pick our pockets.
Firefighter Steve

Bethesda, MD

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Feb 19, 2008
 
The only pockets that should be picked are the ones committing the speeding offense. If you are concerned about someone picking your pockets, don't speed. If you don't speed, then you have nothing to worry about.
The speed cameras, where implemented actually do work. They will have a period of time that will allow warnings to inform you that the cameras are there, I believe that time is one year. The cameras also are not going to get you until you exceed 10 mph over the posted speed limit. At that point, you are doing 35mph in a residential section where kids play. If you are exceeding that, then you deserve the ticket and then some.

The issues with rear end collissions are a result of tailgating (following to closely). And no, they aren't up any more than they were before. How about people starting to either A. Pay attention to what they are doing behind the wheel!! or B. follow the rules and regulations of travel distance and speed, or C. All of the above.

I work in Howard Co as a firefighter. I can promise you that on more than my fair share of times I have responded to car wrecks with roll over/ entrappments in Columbia's residential section where the driver was exceeding posted speed limits by more than 20 mph.

You are permitted to go on a ride a long with the HCPD's traffic enforcement section...This way you can see the speeding going on for yourself.
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Mar 3, 2008
 
Mr. Anonyim. You shouldn't categorize people you don't know based upon a posting on a web site. If you read my last post I wasn't criticizing privacy. It's obvious you do not understand privacy because that is not the reason we have speed cameras. The cameras do not violate privacy because there is no expectation of privacy when you are driving on a public roadway.
Scandal in DC? Who cares about a scandal that happens in another state. Pay attention to the facts of the situation Mr. Anonymim. The speed cameras in Howard County are not related to the ones in DC. If you can find me concrete facts that the speed cameras being utilized in Howard County are directly related to this scandal in DC then I am more than willing to listen.
What kind of facts do you have to support your claim that Speed Cameras cause rear-end collisions? Did you miss that part in Driver's Education class where they taught you that tailgating is illegal ? Once again, show me some facts to support your silly claim that speed cameras cause rear-end collisions. I think I will be waiting for a long time because you won't be able to find these statistics.
"Hundred Mile Speedracers?" I never said that in my last post. Again, you might want to take to read things over before you comment on them Mr. Anonymim. Your personal biases about obeying the law seem to cloud your thoughts. Focus on the situation at hand Mr. Anonymim. We have speed limits for a reason. If you have a problem obeying them then move to a different state. No one should be driving one hundred miles an hour on Route 29.
"Surveillance Utopia" ? Sorry Mr. Anonyim but your claims that big brother monitors every move you make are only in movies. Again, focus on the topic Mr. Anonymim. You don't seem to grasp the concept that these are public roadways. There is not expectation of privacy on the roadway. A speed camera is not going to violate your privacy rights. Do you know how speed cameras operate? Have you ever taken the time to do some research to investigate what speed cameras take pictures of on the side of the road?
Anonyim wrote:
Oh, what impeccable logic! If someone opposes something, it can only be because they're doing it themselves - brilliant! Following that line of thinking anyone who questions government must be an anarchist and only a criminal would want civilian oversight of the police. Given that mentality you're probably one of those people who crictize privacy advocates by implying they must have something to hide.
How quickly you forget the scandal that was caused in Washington, D.C. a few years back when it was discovered that a portion of the revenue being generated by speed cameras was being kicked back to the company which manufactured them. Or maybe you weren't aware that some jurisdictions have shaved two seconds off the yellow cycle at intersections where red light cameras were installed - but it couldn't possibly be that they were trying to manufacture some violators, could it?
Did you know that rear end collisions have increased since the advent of the cameras, as drivers, fearful of a hefty fine, panic at the first hint of yellow? Yeah....that really increases public safety. Just last winter I saw someone spin through a snow covered intersection because they slammed on the brakes the instant the light began to change in order to avoid being caught on candid camera.
And just where are these hundred mile per hour speed racers you bemoan - you know, the ones supposedly threatining the fabric of our society, terrorizing our children and mowing them down by the dozen? I've been in virtually every neighborhood in Howard County and have yet to see anyone going over 35mph.
Maybe you fantasize about a surveillance utopia wherein big brother montiors your every move, but some of us do not. It's bad enough we're taxed to death without the local governments finding new ways to pick our pockets.
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Mar 3, 2008
 
It's obvious to me that Mr. Anonymim is very quick to apply labels to someone based upon a post. He talks about a speed camera scandal that happened in DC which has nothing to do with Howard County. Feel free to present facts that support your claim that speed cameras in Howard County will result in the same type of scandal in DC. Hundred mile racers I bemoan ? Again, you need to read my post Mr. Anonymim. I did not bemoan anything but I am sure alot of people would agree with me that going 100 mph on Route 29 is very dangerous. Your claim that speed cameras cause an increase in rear-end collisions....do you have facts to support what you say? Did you miss that day in Driver's Ed where they taught you that tailgating is dangerous and also illegal ? Finally, speed cameras do not violate privacy because there is no expectation of privacy on a public roadway. I think you have been watching too many hollywood movies Mr. Anonyim because your claim that big brother monitors everything you do only happens in a movie. You might want to do some research into speed cameras before you spread such flawed logic around. Take Firefighter Steve's advice and do a ride-a-long with the police department so you can get a first-hand look at what speeding does and how it affects communities.
Free county

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Apr 14, 2008
 
I'm sick of these so-called "big-brother" advocates and "enlightened" firefighters thinking they are the ones who suddenly know how to regulate society.
I only got 1 thing for you - there is something in our preamble of the damn US of A that MANDATES not suggests, requires, hints a seperation of EXECUTIVE, LEGISLATIVE and JURISPRUDENCE. You have all these know-it-all govt officials who are itching to stretch their powers and its up to the voters to rally back and shut down silly stuff like this. Well I bet if this bill makes it through, we will just get a list of signatures to put it on referendum and/or challenge their legality. People in govt should just stick to doing their jobs not being creative in power creep.
Dead bill

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Apr 14, 2008
 
This thing got nipped in the bud buddy. It was as someone said a silly idea and went too far. Shame on all these people trying to turn Howard county into a camera-zone county.

Here is the 411 on what happened:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/...
Firefighter Steve

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Apr 17, 2008
 
Free County,

At what point did I say that I knew how to regulate society? Help me with this being that you are so versed in the fields of public safety.

how is keeping speeders from potentially killing people fall in to the category of "silly stuff".

Personally, I would like to see the camera bill turned in to more officers on the streets with radar/laser so when you decide that you some how have the constitutional rights to speed through neighborhoods where kids may be playing, you get pulled over and given a fat fine and the points to follow it. That way it will give you something else to come on here and bitch about.
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Apr 30, 2008
 
Free county wrote:
I'm sick of these so-called "big-brother" advocates and "enlightened" firefighters thinking they are the ones who suddenly know how to regulate society.
I only got 1 thing for you - there is something in our preamble of the damn US of A that MANDATES not suggests, requires, hints a seperation of EXECUTIVE, LEGISLATIVE and JURISPRUDENCE. You have all these know-it-all govt officials who are itching to stretch their powers and its up to the voters to rally back and shut down silly stuff like this. Well I bet if this bill makes it through, we will just get a list of signatures to put it on referendum and/or challenge their legality. People in govt should just stick to doing their jobs not being creative in power creep.
Dude, you are a loser. Get a life.
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Apr 30, 2008
 
Dead bill wrote:
This thing got nipped in the bud buddy. It was as someone said a silly idea and went too far. Shame on all these people trying to turn Howard county into a camera-zone county.
Here is the 411 on what happened:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/...
Shame on you for speeding and breaking the law. Maybe you shouldn't be such a hypocrite. We need cameras to regulate losers like you that break the law and can't live in society.

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