Shooting range near homes is legal bu...

Shooting range near homes is legal but under fire

There are 7 comments on the NBC 17 story from Jan 4, 2012, titled Shooting range near homes is legal but under fire. In it, NBC 17 reports that:

Bullets hitting homes. It's a problem some Harnett County neighbors say, they won't stand for anymore.

Join the discussion below, or Read more at NBC 17.

“Now thats a tin hat!”

Since: Oct 07

Blue Ridge Mountains

#1 Jan 6, 2012
Well, if the range was there before the houses, tough noogies. Only folls build houses downrange of shooting ranges.

If the bullets that hit the houses actually came from the range, they need top build some bullet proof walls.

Seems to me the police could figure out where these bullets are coming from.

Since: Nov 11

Salt Lake City, UT

#2 Jan 6, 2012
Most states seem to grandfather existing property when a zoning change is made. Z is right if they built the houses (or moved into them) after the range was open sorry about their luck. Kind of like people moving to a house close to an airport the whining about the noise.
Nobody

Aurora, CO

#3 Dec 9, 2012
Well if I purchased a home downrange and bullets were hitting my house I wouldn't stand for it any more either! That would just be stoopid! I would Duck and cover when the range is hot!
Duh

Huntsville, AL

#4 Dec 10, 2012
Zoning has been around for over a 100 years. Nobody figured this out before permiting the houses?
jb petey

Dunn, NC

#5 Jan 11, 2013
ZigmunnDroid wrote:
Well, if the range was there before the houses, tough noogies. Only folls build houses downrange of shooting ranges.
If the bullets that hit the houses actually came from the range, they need top build some bullet proof walls.
Seems to me the police could figure out where these bullets are coming from.
No, for rifle shooting they simply need to build better berms but only IF the bullets are not being stopped by any current structures. As the owners of Drake's Landing are considerably versed in gun use and various caliber capacities I would be rather surprised if proper stoppage doesn't already exist.

I believe it is the clay shooting that's most likely causing their problems, which isn't particularly uncommon on sporting clays courses. Many other clubs have gone through such issues throughout the country where pellets occasionally 'meet' in adjoining neighborhoods that are often established BEFORE new development is constructed on their perimeters. And, by the time shell shot reaches that distance, they are not traveling at a speed that would harm anyone mortally, if even trivially. The potential of rifle munitions is a totally different calculation. For example, most well run ranges never allow a .50 caliber to be shot because it's simply not feasible, nor advisable, to build stoppage for bullets that travel 11,000ft/sec. BTW, I don't believe it is rational to respond to residents with hostile statements such as 'tough noogies'. It doesn't promote an image of maturity and responsibility the gun owning community so desperately needs right now. I think it is better, for the sake of EVERYONE in the community, to approach this issue with as much sensitivity and logic as possible so that whatever decision is made can be accepted in a spirit of teamwork and reasonable compromise. Hopefully it will at least remind those considering the purchase of a home, which is one of the heaviest financial investments any of us make in our lives, to be very thorough in researching ALL of the businesses we may be moving next to. Also, I do not believe the owners of Drake's Landing are absurd and immature people but rather will put forth their position as land owners themselves, and business owners, that they should not be judged with callous disregard either. Nobody should be. Everyone has a stake in their lives in Harnett county; gun owners and non-gun owners alike; business owners and non-business owners alike. This is a COMMUNITY, not a fiefdom, so all issues must be settled as reasonably and as rationally as possible to promote the ideals of 'neighborliness' to its most positive potentials for all citizens of Harnett.

“Now thats a tin hat!”

Since: Oct 07

Blue Ridge Mountains

#6 Jan 14, 2013
jb petey wrote:
<quoted text>
No, for rifle shooting they simply need to build better berms but only IF the bullets are not being stopped by any current structures. As the owners of Drake's Landing are considerably versed in gun use and various caliber capacities I would be rather surprised if proper stoppage doesn't already exist.
I believe it is the clay shooting that's most likely causing their problems, which isn't particularly uncommon on sporting clays courses. Many other clubs have gone through such issues throughout the country where pellets occasionally 'meet' in adjoining neighborhoods that are often established BEFORE new development is constructed on their perimeters. And, by the time shell shot reaches that distance, they are not traveling at a speed that would harm anyone mortally, if even trivially. The potential of rifle munitions is a totally different calculation. For example, most well run ranges never allow a .50 caliber to be shot because it's simply not feasible, nor advisable, to build stoppage for bullets that travel 11,000ft/sec. BTW, I don't believe it is rational to respond to residents with hostile statements such as 'tough noogies'. It doesn't promote an image of maturity and responsibility the gun owning community so desperately needs right now. I think it is better, for the sake of EVERYONE in the community, to approach this issue with as much sensitivity and logic as possible so that whatever decision is made can be accepted in a spirit of teamwork and reasonable compromise. Hopefully it will at least remind those considering the purchase of a home, which is one of the heaviest financial investments any of us make in our lives, to be very thorough in researching ALL of the businesses we may be moving next to. Also, I do not believe the owners of Drake's Landing are absurd and immature people but rather will put forth their position as land owners themselves, and business owners, that they should not be judged with callous disregard either. Nobody should be. Everyone has a stake in their lives in Harnett county; gun owners and non-gun owners alike; business owners and non-business owners alike. This is a COMMUNITY, not a fiefdom, so all issues must be settled as reasonably and as rationally as possible to promote the ideals of 'neighborliness' to its most positive potentials for all citizens of Harnett.
Good post.

The tough noogies is for the whiners, here, who show up later.

I will still stand by "who was there first", and "what part of choice did you misunderstand".

As much as I like to shoot, I would not buy property near a range, nor would I build a house there.

If someone wanted to build a range near me, I would mainly be concerned with which way the shooting is.

“O'er the land of the free ? ”

Since: Jan 09

Don't Tread On Me

#7 Jan 14, 2013
jb petey wrote:
<quoted text>
No, for rifle shooting they simply need to build better berms but only IF the bullets are not being stopped by any current structures. As the owners of Drake's Landing are considerably versed in gun use and various caliber capacities I would be rather surprised if proper stoppage doesn't already exist.
I believe it is the clay shooting that's most likely causing their problems, which isn't particularly uncommon on sporting clays courses. Many other clubs have gone through such issues throughout the country where pellets occasionally 'meet' in adjoining neighborhoods that are often established BEFORE new development is constructed on their perimeters. And, by the time shell shot reaches that distance, they are not traveling at a speed that would harm anyone mortally, if even trivially. The potential of rifle munitions is a totally different calculation. For example, most well run ranges never allow a .50 caliber to be shot because it's simply not feasible, nor advisable, to build stoppage for bullets that travel 11,000ft/sec. BTW, I don't believe it is rational to respond to residents with hostile statements such as 'tough noogies'. It doesn't promote an image of maturity and responsibility the gun owning community so desperately needs right now. I think it is better, for the sake of EVERYONE in the community, to approach this issue with as much sensitivity and logic as possible so that whatever decision is made can be accepted in a spirit of teamwork and reasonable compromise. Hopefully it will at least remind those considering the purchase of a home, which is one of the heaviest financial investments any of us make in our lives, to be very thorough in researching ALL of the businesses we may be moving next to. Also, I do not believe the owners of Drake's Landing are absurd and immature people but rather will put forth their position as land owners themselves, and business owners, that they should not be judged with callous disregard either. Nobody should be. Everyone has a stake in their lives in Harnett county; gun owners and non-gun owners alike; business owners and non-business owners alike. This is a COMMUNITY, not a fiefdom, so all issues must be settled as reasonably and as rationally as possible to promote the ideals of 'neighborliness' to its most positive potentials for all citizens of Harnett.
Excellent Post.

I have a feeling that the Real Estate industry has a stake in this they are trying to avoid.

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