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Deal made with recruiter, pact needed with recruits

There are 21 comments on the The Indianapolis Star story from Oct 13, 2007, titled Deal made with recruiter, pact needed with recruits. In it, The Indianapolis Star reports that:

Our position: Lessons from a military recruiter's sins were too slowly learned. The sad and sordid case of Sgt.

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Comedy Routine

Florence, KY

#1 Oct 13, 2007
Please don't think abuse is not happening in our schools (males & females)and other places just as it is in US military.
Chris

United States

#2 Oct 13, 2007
Come on! This guy sexually assaults (probably raped) a number of young women and he gets off without prison time? Besides congress and the top echelons of business, where else could a reported sex crime be swept under the carpet so easily? There is nothing in the report that would suggest that the guy would even have to register as a sex offender.
Let's face it, we are all just meat to the military. Women just happen to be more expendable meat. They don't matter enough to get respect in civilian court.
This is favoritism to a military criminal. If you don't think so, then why isn't he also being courtmarshalled?
CR Eastes

Park Ridge, IL

#3 Oct 13, 2007
It is sad to know our judicial system consists of so-called educated people concerned with allowing perversion to continually breed by manipulating the law in twisting the meaning of words of said laws with one's true and obvious intent of their crime with plea-bargaining after the fact. This offers nothing more than a buffer for them and allows them to continue their habits, but in a more discrete manner so as not be readily noticed the next time.
What kind of deterrent is this we ask -? It is none.
Then we ask:
Why don't our court's and all involved in Due Process of Law want to rid society of such a wide variety of perverted acts towards others (mainly children)-?
Would it then not appear that all concerned within the realm of Justice to protect a society (including children) is in favor of and excepts these acts by not imposing and enforcing an effective deterrent -?
Why do they shy away from the word, and meaning of the word "Deterrent (s) in crime -?
As long as we are given lame excuses and reasoning for this all types of crime will continue. Most citizens (taxpayers) willingly support "Paying for protection" and only end up with what we now have: Nothing.
Thank You
CR Eastes
oh well

Algonquin, IL

#4 Oct 13, 2007
Unbelievable . Judge Nation , do the right thing . As well as victims doing the right thing and follow case through with your testimony vs accepting plea agreement . You reported crime , follow through .
Jay

United States

#5 Oct 13, 2007
All this happened while a Democratic governor was running the state's National Guard.

Bayh mismanaged the Guard so bad that it could not be called up to serve in Desert Storm, because it was deemed unready.
Kwaj guy

Milwaukee, WI

#6 Oct 13, 2007
Military recruiters are some of the least supervised soldiers in the forces. Its a shame that virtually nothing they say can be held against them.
outside the box

Deputy, IN

#8 Oct 13, 2007
I do not see what the big deal is here. If I remember the statistic correctly, something like 25% of the females in the military report being sexually assaulted while on active duty. It would seem appropriate to me to require these recruiters to at least meet this level of interaction as part of an "Integrity and Truthfulness in Recruitment" program. Jay and Larry and lastrep and their buddies could be in charge of monitoring this effort...oh, and Bobby Knight too.
Concerned Patriot

Fortville, IN

#9 Oct 13, 2007
I encourage all concerned Hoosiers to encourage your state legislators to pass legislation this next session to hold these rogue recruiters to account. Legislation authored by State Senator Mike Delph passed the Senate with flying colors last session but was unfortunately stalled in a house committee. This patriotic legislation is vital to protect our young people from the unfortunate bad apples that take advantage of their power. Here is a link to the legislation that will reappear in January. http://www.in.gov/apps/lsa/session/billwatch/...
Sad but not surprising

United States

#10 Oct 13, 2007
Provisions in No Child Left Behind have given recruiters way too much access to our children.
Larry

San Antonio, TX

#11 Oct 13, 2007
Sure, there are some bad apples among the thousands of recruiters, folks. Are there NO bad apples in whatever business you're in?
Vince Foster

Carmel, IN

#13 Oct 13, 2007
Remember, Sonya let off the Dr. who was writing and abusing his own prescriptions. I'm not a feminist (Janet Reno cured me of that) but I bet the bus driver in Carmel gets more time than this recruiter or the doctor. Then again, she did let Tomisue Hilbert's mother skip on the welfare fraud.
outside the box

Winchester, KY

#14 Oct 13, 2007
"Bad apples"...incredible. Simply incredible.

I guess when you are in the state sanctioned business of teaching kids to kill upon impulse you learn to easily shrug something like this off as "bad apples". And in this regard, what we are talking about here must be "small potatoes" eh???
Larry

San Antonio, TX

#15 Oct 13, 2007
outside the box wrote:
"Bad apples"...incredible. Simply incredible.
I guess when you are in the state sanctioned business of teaching kids to kill upon impulse you learn to easily shrug something like this off as "bad apples". And in this regard, what we are talking about here must be "small potatoes" eh???
I didn't just shrug it off. I just tried to put it in context. But yes -- combat soldiers are taught how to fight. The mission in war is to break things and kill people. If your armed forces can't do that, you're paying too much for your Defense Department. You could just reduce it to the bands and the Thunderbirds.
Ex-Wife

Winnetka, CA

#17 Oct 13, 2007
Wow. Went to civil court and he still is getting off with a slap on the wrist (comparatively).

I can't speak for everyone who abuses others, but I can say that this is not new for Eric personally. I left Eric in 1987 because of physical and mental abuse after a short marriage. Eric thrives on dominating others, and always has...

It sickens me that the justice system has gotten so skewed as to let a sexual predator, of this magnitude, off so lightly.
Ex-Wife

Winnetka, CA

#18 Oct 13, 2007
Correction:
I left Eric in 1989, not 1987 - sorry for the typo.

I've also decided to write to the Judge handling the case, and hopefully sway him to take the matter more seriously then he has been hinted at being...
outside the box

Winchester, KY

#19 Oct 14, 2007
Larry, I think you have defined things fairly and correctly...and that is why I believe that every penny that gets spent on the "Destruction Department" is an unmitigated waste. What a waste of life and materials! And we teach this and then believe that these kids will come out the other side and continue to be "the best you can be"...and then we just can't understand why our nation seems to be heading down this path of self-destruction.

I have friends who work in the psychiatric area of the VA here in town. They deal with the reality of these destroyed lives (destroyed in every way imaginable) every day...yet defend the necessity of continuing this course. I believe those of you who have been there and done that in our "little" destruction department are the definition of evil and insanity. That you know first hand what this state sanctioned activity entails and you chose to glorify it does not speak highly of you. I do believe it is coping mechanism for you...regardless, this is insanity.
oh well

Algonquin, IL

#20 Oct 14, 2007
outside the box wrote:
Larry, I think you have defined things fairly and correctly...and that is why I believe that every penny that gets spent on the "Destruction Department" is an unmitigated waste. What a waste of life and materials! And we teach this and then believe that these kids will come out the other side and continue to be "the best you can be"...and then we just can't understand why our nation seems to be heading down this path of self-destruction.
I have friends who work in the psychiatric area of the VA here in town. They deal with the reality of these destroyed lives (destroyed in every way imaginable) every day...yet defend the necessity of continuing this course. I believe those of you who have been there and done that in our "little" destruction department are the definition of evil and insanity. That you know first hand what this state sanctioned activity entails and you chose to glorify it does not speak highly of you. I do believe it is coping mechanism for you...regardless, this is insanity.
larry , when the current enemy comes to slit your throat ,please don't call the "Destruction Department".
oh well

Algonquin, IL

#21 Oct 14, 2007
correction on the above , i was addressing "out side the box".
outside the box

Shelbyville, IN

#22 Oct 14, 2007
You will not have to worry about me calling the Destruction Department. Your paranoid little self will have called them a thousand times before there was even a real threat. Besides, they will be unavailable...busy in Timbuktu protecting, I mean DEFENDING, our interests.
Mom

Cicero, IN

#23 Oct 15, 2007
As the article says: "...such a sentence could have been achieved only through a risky and sensational trial that would have subjected Vetesy's victims to publicity and stress beyond what they could be asked to endure."

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