Local assessors defend office

Lawmakers considering a bill to shift assessment duties from townships to counties are trying to sort through a lot of finger-pointing about who's to blame for property tax problems. Full Story
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Indyeast

Columbus, OH

#1 Dec 13, 2007
I can't understand how a 700 sq ft house in the 46218 area is taxed more than a 1700 sq ft house in the 46201 area.

My ex's house is really huge,mine is really small. They put his house as worth $2000 less than mine.

I don't understand. Anyone got any ideas on this?
Kumar

Avon, IN

#2 Dec 13, 2007
Did anyone think the assessors would be in favor of losing their jobs?

If they were smart, they'd have started looking for other employment after the property tax fiasco started.

Now that repubs are back in power, there's very little reason to hold on to the old school costly township positions around the state.

“Go Hoosiers and Huskers”

Since: Sep 07

Fishers, Indiana

#3 Dec 13, 2007
Of course they would say their jobs are needed. I say fire them all. The only public works people we need are the cops and the fire dept. Everyone else can be subcontracted out for less.
Dennis_Daviess Co

Newberry, IN

#4 Dec 13, 2007
It could be caused by who slides the most money under the table. Sometimes I think that is the case. It wouldn't be so bad if we were taxed on the real price of a home instead of some made up price that they came up with to charge what they want to charge. I gave $32000.00 for my home and they have it accessed at $92,000.00. Almost three time of the buying amount of my home. Now how is that fare? I was always allowed to believe that it was against the law to tax without legal taxation. Theres a big difference between 32 and 92. It's more of a rip off than it is anything. Correct me if I'm wrong but when you go to the store and buy something that they can charge tax on they don't charge you three time the amount for the taxes there so why should it be any different with a home. Indiana has got the biggest screwed up tax system in the United States. The whole thing should be scraped and start over. And that is after we send them all back to basic math classes in grade school.This government we have today is dumber than a box of rocks. And I don't see how they can charge anyone with being a theft when there are the biggest ones around.
Oh Really

Ostrander, OH

#5 Dec 13, 2007
Sure they would object to losing their jobs. Most government employees would since they have been accustomed to job security now matter the efficiency. And security is in numbers with the number of government employees nearing (50 %) of the work force.
hmmmm

United States

#6 Dec 13, 2007
amazing that Musgrave would state that low number of elections is attributable to a lack of interest in the positions....could mean that in some area of the State, people are satisfied with the job being done. Problem we are having is that Mitch's Minions continue to evaluate the situation in the entire state based on the experience of Lake, St. Joe, Marion and Vanderburg Counties. Those of you in the other counties, I hope you enjoy having our solutions imposed on your non-existent problems....maybe the Governor should re-read the report to see the statement that says, "no one size fits all."
hmmmm

United States

#7 Dec 13, 2007
Dennis_Daviess Co wrote:
It could be caused by who slides the most money under the table. Sometimes I think that is the case. It wouldn't be so bad if we were taxed on the real price of a home instead of some made up price that they came up with to charge what they want to charge. I gave $32000.00 for my home and they have it accessed at $92,000.00. Almost three time of the buying amount of my home. Now how is that fare? I was always allowed to believe that it was against the law to tax without legal taxation. Theres a big difference between 32 and 92. It's more of a rip off than it is anything. Correct me if I'm wrong but when you go to the store and buy something that they can charge tax on they don't charge you three time the amount for the taxes there so why should it be any different with a home. Indiana has got the biggest screwed up tax system in the United States. The whole thing should be scraped and start over. And that is after we send them all back to basic math classes in grade school.This government we have today is dumber than a box of rocks. And I don't see how they can charge anyone with being a theft when there are the biggest ones around.
OK, Dennis, you win. Give me your address and I will pay you $32,000 for your house since that is what you think it is worth.
Ben There

Indianapolis, IN

#8 Dec 13, 2007
Mark up another one for "Smaller Goverment". Let's take out the Offices closest to the people and give their duties to those who can't get a time zone in place. A Panel of experts, all with State level experience, decided what's best for everybody. Seems strange,because that is the level unable to devise a formula for tax assessment. But if you need insulin in an emergency don't go to your local Trustee, go to the big 'ole State House.Another Indiana joke from our elected Jokers...
Me too

Rockford, IL

#9 Dec 13, 2007
Kumar wrote:
Did anyone think the assessors would be in favor of losing their jobs?
If they were smart, they'd have started looking for other employment after the property tax fiasco started.
Now that repubs are back in power, there's very little reason to hold on to the old school costly township positions around the state.
Kumar: I couldn't agree more
sab

Indianapolis, IN

#10 Dec 13, 2007
Indyeast wrote:
I can't understand how a 700 sq ft house in the 46218 area is taxed more than a 1700 sq ft house in the 46201 area.
My ex's house is really huge,mine is really small. They put his house as worth $2000 less than mine.
I don't understand. Anyone got any ideas on this?
It's called "Location, Location, Location".
The huge tax changes are caused by the state being forced to go to a market value system for appraising property for taxes. Some of the discrepancies are caused by using people to appraise the property that have no clue about "market value". This state has thousands of real estate brokers who set market value daily. Perhaps the state should subcontract this job to them.
sab

Indianapolis, IN

#11 Dec 13, 2007
hmmmm wrote:
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OK, Dennis, you win. Give me your address and I will pay you $32,000 for your house since that is what you think it is worth.
Not sure where your home is Dennis, but $32000 is really a low price these days almost anywhere. The taxes are based on "current market value", not what you paid for it years ago. However IF you purchased it recently, I would definitely ask for a reassessment.
Shaken and Stirred

Indianapolis, IN

#12 Dec 13, 2007
Property taxes are subjective, expensive and inefficient to administer, and immoral. They are also the favored "cash cow" of government so it's not surprising that they'll use scare tactics or any other means to lull citizens into believing we can't find other sources of revenue (or cut spending).

Don't drink their kool-aid. Abolish property taxes. Cut spending. Enact a negligible increase in sales tax (lots more of us buy stuff than own houses, thus there's a bigger pool for revenue). Watch businesses and residents thrive when they can find other uses for the money they would have used to pay property taxes.

duh

Indianapolis, IN

#13 Dec 13, 2007
Indyeast wrote:
I can't understand how a 700 sq ft house in the 46218 area is taxed more than a 1700 sq ft house in the 46201 area.
My ex's house is really huge,mine is really small. They put his house as worth $2000 less than mine.
I don't understand. Anyone got any ideas on this?
They are probably different tax rates, which is set by the legislature, not the assessors.
duh

Indianapolis, IN

#14 Dec 13, 2007
HoosierHusker wrote:
Of course they would say their jobs are needed. I say fire them all. The only public works people we need are the cops and the fire dept. Everyone else can be subcontracted out for less.
And you know this for a fact ? Where is your math to back this up Einstein ? It would actually cost more to subcontract it out. And when you subcontract the work, they do not go to each individual house.
lafguy60

Indianapolis, IN

#15 Dec 13, 2007
duh wrote:
<quoted text>
And you know this for a fact ? Where is your math to back this up Einstein ? It would actually cost more to subcontract it out. And when you subcontract the work, they do not go to each individual house.
They aren't going to every house under the current system.
Colt 45

United States

#16 Dec 13, 2007
HoosierHusker wrote:
Of course they would say their jobs are needed. I say fire them all. The only public works people we need are the cops and the fire dept. Everyone else can be subcontracted out for less.
With the exception of Monroe Gray. That's one fire department employee and job we don't need.
Danny White

AOL

#17 Dec 13, 2007
DON'T CARE ABOUT THEIR BIASED OPINION. IT SEEMS TO BE A CONFLICT OF INTEREST FOR THEM TO VOICE THEIR OPINIONS. IT IS NOT POSSIBLE FOR THEM TO BE UNBIASED.
Local landlord

United States

#18 Dec 13, 2007
Assessed value, in my opinion, should be the price you actually paid for the property, and it shouldn't be increased again until its sold. Trending and market value approaches aren't fair. If we have a simple assessment system in place we just won't need very many assessors.
Stumblebum

Kankakee, IL

#19 Dec 13, 2007
Washington township taxpayers can rest easy knowing that a moral and intellectual titan like Joline Ohmart is our assessor. Her office is filled with people flush with the spirit of public service and a desire to keep taxes low. Those of us in the township can't decide if Joline is more like Mother Theresa or Oprah Winfrey, but we know for sure that she is the Einstein of tax assessors.
Ask

Pryor, OK

#20 Dec 13, 2007
Indyeast wrote:
I can't understand how a 700 sq ft house in the 46218 area is taxed more than a 1700 sq ft house in the 46201 area.
My ex's house is really huge,mine is really small. They put his house as worth $2000 less than mine.
I don't understand. Anyone got any ideas on this?
Simply ask your local assessor, they supposedly are friendly, knowledgeable and helpful. Ha If there is a problem, it isn't their fault.

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