Man on motorcycle killed in collision

There are 6 comments on the The Columbus Dispatch story from Jul 1, 2012, titled Man on motorcycle killed in collision. In it, The Columbus Dispatch reports that:

Steven H. Moore, 28, was traveling west on Silver Street at about 2:45 p.m., said Marion police Lt.

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For Enzyte Bob

Columbus, OH

#1 Jul 1, 2012
Motorcycle accident with fatality!

Since: Apr 12

Hilliard, OH

#2 Jul 1, 2012
Looks like he was the victim of a careless car driver.
Sad and unnecessary.

“Queen of my domain”

Since: May 10

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#4 Jul 1, 2012
If left-turning, the motorcyclist had right of way.

“Paper Or Plastic?”

Since: Nov 11


#6 Jul 1, 2012
I've been riding for more years than I care to mention. Took a few years break and recently started riding again. My attitude is, ride like everyone else is out there to kill you.

Galloway, OH

#8 Jul 1, 2012
Big Johnson wrote:
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That's the attitude that gets you killed on a motorcycle.
I ain't signing in again.

I get that. Have been on motorcycles. The deal here is that the driver didn't care or look, either. Can you stop a bike quickly going 60MPH without wiping out, either? Biker's choice likely was wipe out or hope for the best with an idiot turning in his path, perhaps.

“Queen of my domain”

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#12 Jul 1, 2012
Big Johnson wrote:
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Biker's choice was to wear a helmet along with jacket, gloves and boots; check tire pressure and condition and brakes regularly, preferably daily; cover the brakes, preferably always but certainly on an urban residential street; see an oncoming car and even have the thought that "this car could turn left in front of me"; and react accordingly to said thought by adjusting speed, selecting a responsive gear for that speed, adjusting lane position (I would select right of the center of the lane but not all the way over because of the possibility of a car pulling out of Commercial St.) and then watch for signs of the car beginning to turn.
How many of those choices did the dead biker choose? My money is on 'none of the above'.
The speed limit there is 35 mph and yes I do brake hard at felonious speeds regularly. You could too if you weren't afraid of your brakes.
I didn't know the speed limit up there, do admit.

I agree with where you are going with this. However, you cannot let the driver off with no culpability here.

Helmets? Not required. Smart? I can't say. Have used and have not used, passenger only. Depended. Hot day like today, open country road with no traffic, no and owner didn't require but always provided me one.(Guy I dated long term, and he was one of THE most cautious persons I know--damn near OCD-like, still does poker runs and I went on a few with him.)

Leather/protective clothing? Again, depended. You want to wear leather on a day like today? Yes, was worn unless weather like today.

But none of these will EVER prevent an idiot making a left hand turn and disregarding others with right of way.

Braking hard? He tried to avoid that at all costs, at least while I was passenger. It's not a good idea, even if you aren't afraid of your brakes.

Does any of this make you or I an expert? No. No charges filed. My point remains: the driver looks to have to take on at least some culpability here. I'm not disputing your arguments, but I don't think based on the info given this is a Darwin award winner. Maybe more information will come out.

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