Court to weigh in on drug testing for...

Court to weigh in on drug testing for teachers

There are 23 comments on the Asheville Citizen-Times story from Dec 1, 2008, titled Court to weigh in on drug testing for teachers. In it, Asheville Citizen-Times reports that:

Jordan Schrader * JSchrade@CITIZEN-TIMES.com * published December 2, 2008 12:15 am Comments on Topix forums : RALEIGH A state appeals court will decide whether Graham County Schools can subject teachers and ...

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“Conservative for America”

Since: Apr 07

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#1 Dec 2, 2008
Ehy can't the school system test employees? Private businesses and most government agencies random test and there is nothing illegal about that. These are the people that teach your children and if it were my child I would want to know if their teacher was at minimum smoking pot, or at worst main lining hard core drugs. The BS about on their personal time nolonger applies since now we know activities on off time bleed over into our work lives.
jrr

Spartanburg, SC

#2 Dec 2, 2008
Since teachers are no longer holding themselves to a higher standard, it is necessary.
Teacher-Parent

United States

#3 Dec 2, 2008
Why not? I often wondered why I didn't get pulled for testing when the bus drivers did. Teachers have a lot of control over our children. Test 'em!
joe

Asheville, NC

#4 Dec 2, 2008
I say test the students as well
FWD

Englewood, CO

#5 Dec 2, 2008
The nanny state keeps getting worse. Time to kick the gubmint back out of our personal lives.

COPS SAY LEGALIZE DRUGS!
ASK US WHY

http://www.leap.cc/cms/index.php
Tim

Buffalo, NY

#6 Dec 2, 2008
They dont pay teachers enough for the hassle of DTs. To be honest I could really care less if a teacher smoked pot.

Its not cost effective to test every teacher then random test them. These school are already skirting buy on there very low budgets. Now more things to pay for, or even worse we foot the bills for all these DTs
OUTSPOKEN

United States

#7 Dec 2, 2008
If I was a teacher, counselor, principal or driver or a school board member or an employee of the school system, I would welcome a drug test.
Those that oppose the test - quit - get another job,
You will find that most jobs have some restrictions on the use of drugs.
And TIM - if the pay and perks (benefits) are not enough for you - seek othr employment - ness up your life if you want but not on my dime as a tax payer or parent.
stoner

Asheville, NC

#8 Dec 2, 2008
well there goes erwin!
stoneman

Asheville, NC

#9 Dec 2, 2008
dude erwin would get destroyed hahaha

Since: Nov 08

arden

#10 Dec 2, 2008
I am pretty much opposed to drug testing in general, except in matters involving public safety. Bus drivers ,airline pilots and such. Its not really a test for drugs .Its a test for one drug.Pot.Since most harder drugs like cocaine work their way through your system much faster than pot their not detected in as many random drug test as an occasional pot smoker. Since pot can stay in your system for several weeks its usually the drug most likely to show up in a test. You cant really determine from the test if the person is high at the time or not.I agree teachers shouldn't be high on anything while teaching our children, but I think what they do on their own time is their business.

Since: Nov 08

arden

#11 Dec 2, 2008
FWD wrote:
The nanny state keeps getting worse. Time to kick the gubmint back out of our personal lives.
COPS SAY LEGALIZE DRUGS!
ASK US WHY
http://www.leap.cc/cms/index.php
Agree.

Since: Nov 08

arden

#12 Dec 2, 2008
Tim wrote:
They dont pay teachers enough for the hassle of DTs. To be honest I could really care less if a teacher smoked pot.
Its not cost effective to test every teacher then random test them. These school are already skirting buy on there very low budgets. Now more things to pay for, or even worse we foot the bills for all these DTs
You bring up a good point. On average drug tests run around $45.00 per test. Think of all the teachers in the NC school system and think about how much money would be involved. I think its money that could be put to much better use in our schools.
Toni

Maxton, NC

#13 Dec 2, 2008
joe wrote:
I say test the students as well
They already do. Whats good for the goose is good for the gander test the teachers also do random searches of their belongings. Have to have a safe school environment its for the health and safety of the children after all. I say ZERO policy for all school teachers.
tfj

Oriental, NC

#14 Dec 2, 2008
If it is stated in the contract, before the teacher/coach/etc. is hired, that there will be random drug testing, then I think there should be no opposition when "your time comes". At that time, if you've taken a prescription medicine, then you should be given the opportunity to present proof before testing. It may be that you'd have to get a substitute teacher while you were on a med that might alter your mental status, but nothing wrong with that. If you were taking "illicit" drugs, you would have warning regarding an upcoming drug test. I think random is good.
James

Greenville, SC

#15 Dec 2, 2008
Toni wrote:
<quoted text>
They already do. Whats good for the goose is good for the gander test the teachers also do random searches of their belongings. Have to have a safe school environment its for the health and safety of the children after all. I say ZERO policy for all school teachers.
You. Are. Nuts. Random searches of their belongings!? Now you want the schools to use what money they have to pay for drug tests and then also pay someone to go thru their stuff?! It's all about the children, children children.....ever stop to think about the teachers who have to put up with and try to teach something to your little brats?! PUHLEEZE!
Skeptic

Charlotte, NC

#16 Dec 2, 2008
Random testing is a "search", to which NO ONE should be subject without cause.

If there is reason to suspect criminal activity, including drug use, then test with my full support. Random intrusions of hard-working public servants is wrong on several counts, including a huge waste of the taxpayers' money.

I don't see politicians rushing to pass laws to test state house or senate members, nor do I see the Graham County School Board requiring themselves to be tested.

“NCBred/FLAcciden tal”

Since: Jul 08

Asheville

#17 Dec 2, 2008
I couldn't care less if the teachers smoked a little pot, it's better than going home and drinking 1/4 gallon of booze. I would care (alot) if teachers were meth addicts or coke. Too bad there isn't a more specific test. I work in one of the largest hospitals on the east coast and we can be drug tested, although none of us has. Two people I work with have lost their national license from DUI's, but when you lose your national license, the hospital drug test is a moot point.
Keith former Gun-bunny

United States

#18 Dec 2, 2008
The way I see it, the teachers that oppose the test has gots something to hide. Now if the teachers had to pay for the test, that would be a horse of a different color.
local

Hickory, NC

#19 Dec 3, 2008
Keith former Gun-bunny wrote:
The way I see it, the teachers that oppose the test has gots something to hide. Now if the teachers had to pay for the test, that would be a horse of a different color.
You are right. Those with nothing to hide would not care if they were tested. those who are concerned probably have a good reason to be.

(And you can tell which folks posting here give a damn about the children.)

I think if the court rules that mandatory/random drug testing is not required for public school teachers, then parents have a case for keeping their children out of the system.
Keith former Gun-bunny

United States

#20 Dec 3, 2008
local wrote:
<quoted text>
You are right. Those with nothing to hide would not care if they were tested. those who are concerned probably have a good reason to be.
(And you can tell which folks posting here give a damn about the children.)
I think if the court rules that mandatory/random drug testing is not required for public school teachers, then parents have a case for keeping their children out of the system.
I'm up for random testing at my work 20 and at the shelter. I don't complain about it because I have nothing to hide. I welcome it in fact to show how outstanding I am. LOL.

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