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Va. Supreme Court strikes down fines against Gloucester residents

There are 128 comments on the Richmond Times-Dispatch story from Mar 4, 2011, titled Va. Supreme Court strikes down fines against Gloucester residents. In it, Richmond Times-Dispatch reports that:

The Virginia Supreme Court today unanimously struck down a circuit court judge's order fining 40 Gloucester County residents $2,000 each for gathering 6,000 signatures in a petition to remove four board of supervisors members.

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Think about it

Hayes, VA

#123 May 24, 2011
Still no comment, but what can worry about an article on the planning director.
Think about it

Hayes, VA

#124 May 30, 2011
I guess those people who "claimed" the foul four were just trying to eliminate the "good old boy" network, realize the rest of the county knows it was just an excuse. There was no good old boy network. I'm glad we finally settled this one.
an oldie but goodie

Hayes, VA

#125 Jun 12, 2012
just raed though this good one dr crys uncle
George S

Jemison, AL

#126 Jun 15, 2012
Dr D wrote:
So, as i read it:
1. The court found that as soon as the commonwealth assumed the case that the petitioners were no longer the party of interest and no longer subject to being fined, and that the commonwealth is protected. Therefore no fines can be levied against either party no matter how idiotic the suit.
2. All other points brought by the petitioners are moot, due to #1.
Wow, what a cop out by the court. The petition process SUX, and the court is not going to help out!
So, the logical consequences that immediately come to mind:
1. Future petitions if picked up by the commonwealth will go forward, and neither the commonwealth or the petitioners will have to worry about consequences.
2. Future peititions, if not picked up by the commonwealth will either be dropped, and the petitioners are subject to fine, or they may retain their own lawyer and still be subject to fine, should the process they follow be flawed.
Unless they are covered by the new legislation.
Interesting.
I guess future petiioners should all hope that the commonwealth agrees with them. It will be interesting if future petitioners become as entangled as past petitioners have with encouragement and support from corrupt officials from the commonwealth.
A 'democracy' of having permission to agree with government or be fined for failing to agree with government.
Dr D

Newport News, VA

#127 Jun 15, 2012
George S wrote:
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A 'democracy' of having permission to agree with government or be fined for failing to agree with government.
George, the interesting things about this case were:
1. The petition was brought forward out of revenge and anger, not from law, it was stimulated by a local unethical reporter who 'fed' the fire.
2. We do not currently have a working petition process in Virginia like some other states have.......

Sadly the 'fire' has died and we STILL don't have a working petition process, only the 'embers' of anger from those who were damaged by this very very very bad reporter, both the petitioners who were damaged by people who followed those who filed a bad petition and had to go through the hearing and more importantly the supervisors (who did nothing wrong) and had their lives damaged forever.
Think about it

Hayes, VA

#128 Jun 15, 2012
I take a little time off and come back to this old story doc keeps spewing.

George, there was no revenge, but there was anger. Yes, very merited anger with politicians who were not doing their duty to the people who elected them. Those same politicians were following their own personal agenda and were caught with their hand in the proverbial cookie jar. The reporter in question reported the facts and those few people who were part of the politicians agenda didn't like seeing the facts in print. Incidently, two of the four politicians chose not to run for re-election and the other two were soundly defeated.

The petiioners were honored by the state for their bravery in the face of an activist judge whose judgement was overturned by the Va. Supreme Court. As for the supervisors, yes, their lives were damaged, but it was due to their actions, not the petitioners or the reporter.

Incidently, the same reporter filed a story about a certain dr. who was arrested and found guilty of branishing a firearm at one of his neighbors.

Coincidence? I think not.
Dr D

Gloucester, VA

#129 Jun 17, 2012
Think about it wrote:
I take a little time off and come back to this old story doc keeps spewing.
George, there was no revenge, but there was anger. Yes, very merited anger with politicians who were not doing their duty to the people who elected them. Those same politicians were following their own personal agenda and were caught with their hand in the proverbial cookie jar. The reporter in question reported the facts and those few people who were part of the politicians agenda didn't like seeing the facts in print. Incidently, two of the four politicians chose not to run for re-election and the other two were soundly defeated.
The petiioners were honored by the state for their bravery in the face of an activist judge whose judgement was overturned by the Va. Supreme Court. As for the supervisors, yes, their lives were damaged, but it was due to their actions, not the petitioners or the reporter.
Incidently, the same reporter filed a story about a certain dr. who was arrested and found guilty of branishing a firearm at one of his neighbors.
Coincidence? I think not.
Why do you continue in you lies? The petition was thrown out, it was ruled illegal, only the fines were discontinued. There was nothing honorable about the petition, the only good thing to come out of it was the determination that we do not have a good petition process. There was no reason to file the petition, as all the judges who reviewed this stated, it should have been determined at the voter box, not the courts. We should label you the 'distortion queen'....
Think about it

Hayes, VA

#130 Jun 18, 2012
Dr D wrote:
<quoted text>Why do you continue in you lies? The petition was thrown out, it was ruled illegal, only the fines were discontinued. There was nothing honorable about the petition, the only good thing to come out of it was the determination that we do not have a good petition process. There was no reason to file the petition, as all the judges who reviewed this stated, it should have been determined at the voter box, not the courts. We should label you the 'distortion queen'....
The only lies here are the ones repeated by you. The fines were ruled illegal because the petitioners didn't bring the case before the court. You know that. Making it sound like a simple dismissal is far from what the Supreme Court ruled. And how could the judge know there was no reason to file the petitions, HE DIDN'T HEAR ANY EVIDENCE. The special prosecutor didn't bring the case before the judge. So any opinion he issued was just that...an opinion, nothing legal.

But you are right about one thing, it WAS determined at the ballot box. Which brings to mind the old saying....."He who laughs last, laughs best". And I'm laughing loudly, liar.*L*

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