Va. Supreme Court strikes down fines against Gloucester residents

Mar 4, 2011 Full story: Richmond Times-Dispatch 128

The Virginia Supreme Court today unanimously struck down a circuit court judge's order fining 40 Gloucester County residents $2,000 each for gathering 6,000 signatures in a petition to remove four board of supervisors members.

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Dr D

Virginia Beach, VA

#21 Mar 14, 2011
Think about it wrote:
Parker's "ruling" was nothing more than his opinion. All he heard was Troy and Company's take on the situation. The Supreme Court's ruling said the 40 were NOT liable. You can spin it any way you like, but the bottom line is Parker was wrong and the Supreme Court said so.
As for the Commonwealth, you're right, if the CA doesn't see it as a winable case, they can choose not to pursue it, however, the CA doesn't have a choice once its filed. The CA MUST either proceed or file with the court the proper paperwork dropping the case. It just doesn't "go away" because the CA doesn't think it's winable. So again, you're wrong.
Amazing that after almost every statement you make you have to say something like' you're wrong' when in fact you are simply saying the same thing other people say, possibly with additional clarification. That's just being a jerk.
Think about it

Gloucester, VA

#22 Mar 14, 2011
Dr D wrote:
<quoted text>Amazing that after almost every statement you make you have to say something like' you're wrong' when in fact you are simply saying the same thing other people say, possibly with additional clarification. That's just being a jerk.
What is truely amazing is your stance that Judge Parker was right. He never heard any testimony. All he heard Troy's pleading. None of the 40 testified. IT WASN'T A TRIAL. It was a hearing, which dropped the petitions filed by the COMMONWEALTH.

And I'm sayin your wrong because YOU ARE!!!! Everyone is saying your wrong. Get it through your thick head. You're WRONG.

The only really sad thing is people like you holding on to the belief the three remaining sups and one former sup were wronged. They caused this and no spin by them or people like you can change that.
dr d

King William, VA

#23 Mar 14, 2011
Think about it wrote:
<quoted text>
What is truely amazing is your stance that Judge Parker was right. He never heard any testimony. All he heard Troy's pleading. None of the 40 testified. IT WASN'T A TRIAL. It was a hearing, which dropped the petitions filed by the COMMONWEALTH.
And I'm sayin your wrong because YOU ARE!!!! Everyone is saying your wrong. Get it through your thick head. You're WRONG.
The only really sad thing is people like you holding on to the belief the three remaining sups and one former sup were wronged. They caused this and no spin by them or people like you can change that.
It's amazing how incensed with hate you become over a lie that you've told yourself......you've still not proved that there was any or ever any wrongdoing....only that u and the 40 are so full of hate that u can't have an intelligent discussion......grow up.
Think about it

Gloucester, VA

#24 Mar 15, 2011
dr d wrote:
<quoted text>It's amazing how incensed with hate you become over a lie that you've told yourself......you've still not proved that there was any or ever any wrongdoing....only that u and the 40 are so full of hate that u can't have an intelligent discussion......grow up.
LIE? You are so self deluded that you can't even tell the truth from a lie. You've saying I've said it, which is utter crap. You say I haven't proved any wrong doing, but then, neither were the four proven they didn't do what they were indicted for. They got off on technicalities. OJ Simpson got off through high priced lawyers, just as the four sups did, the only difference is OJ paid for his lawyers and the county footed the bill for the four sups lawyers.

And intelligent discussions with you is an oxymoron.
TEX

Earlysville, VA

#25 Mar 15, 2011
no comment from me on this, not knowing the details of all this, I shall keep my big mouth shut
hmm

Gloucester, VA

#26 Mar 15, 2011
the technicalities was that what they did was not against the law, but their job
Think about it

Gloucester, VA

#27 Mar 16, 2011
That's your opinion. What about the pressuring of a county employee to help a campaign contributor?
harold

Arlington, VA

#28 Mar 16, 2011
hmm wrote:
the technicalities was that what they did was not against the law, but their job
more with your opinion should speak up........
Dr D

Newport News, VA

#29 Mar 16, 2011
Think about it wrote:
That's your opinion. What about the pressuring of a county employee to help a campaign contributor?
Wow. You will just search for anything, whether it is right or wrong..........I will pray for you.
Think about it

Gloucester, VA

#30 Mar 16, 2011
Dr D wrote:
<quoted text>Wow. You will just search for anything, whether it is right or wrong..........I will pray for you.
*L*...Now that's funny. You praying. Don't waste your breath. I know so much more about that issue then you'll ever know. But once again, you just do what you do best, change the subject, offer excuses, deflect from the issue and then call people gossips and liars. Whether using this handle or CYM or a myriad of other posting names, just to keep yourself relevent. Well, you aren't relevent and I'm just laughing at everything you post.

I'm amazed at the number of opinions you post on every topic here or on the Daily Press blogs, yet you can't even keep your own real life smooth running. You can comment on everyone else's problems or what is in print, yet you won't do anything about your rants. I rarely see you at BOS meetings, and when I do, it's just a bunch of hot air. You talk about building a community yet you tear it down with your constant demeaning of the citizens of our county, belittling the school systems, complaining about the government, etc, etc, etc.

You're just a pathetic little man who uses these boards to make you feel better about yourself because those who know you in real life know the real you, which isn't very flattering.

I'm not going to entertain you any more. I'm not going to give you this forum anymore to uplift your sorry little life.

My job is done here. The Gloucester Forty have been vindicated, TA has already been ousted and at the end of this year so will the other three. And while it has been a long and gut wrenching four years, the satisfaction I will get in seeing the four who started this mess out of power and knowing their reputations are tarnished beyond repair because of their actions is worth it.
dr d

Arlington, VA

#31 Mar 16, 2011
When u are interested in having an intelligent discussion with facts, then we'll talk, until then its quite easy to see through your lies.....I'm trying to did just one fact in this last rant......can't do it....
ummm

Gloucester, VA

#32 Mar 16, 2011
dr d wrote:
When u are interested in having an intelligent discussion with facts, then we'll talk, until then its quite easy to see through your lies.....I'm trying to did just one fact in this last rant......can't do it....
Huh? "....did just one fact...."?
Dr D

Newport News, VA

#33 Mar 17, 2011
ummm wrote:
<quoted text>
Huh? "....did just one fact...."?
Yeah, posting from the Droid, it sometimes substitutes what it wants........
Dr D

Hayes, VA

#34 Mar 21, 2011
Think about it wrote:
This is a great day for all citizens of the Commonwealth, but especially for Gloucester. This shows that our citizens CAN petition their government for redress of grievences without fear of sanctions from activist judges who put their personal opinion ahead of the law.
On a personal note to Cym, Dr. D. and every other alias you use. You were wrong and I was RIGHT!! when we argued over the merit of the sanctions. The Va. Supreme Court agreed with my stance that it was the Commonwealth, not the petitioners who flied the action with the court, thus the petitioners couldn't be sanction. You kept telling me I was wrong, well, all I can say is stick to dentistry because you're legal background is extremely lacking.
I'm still trying to find where I said the 40 should pay the sanctions.....can't do it...my position has always been that the CA and the reporter should pay the fines for their poor ethics, not the 40. My postion on the 40 has been that they should have their fannys spanked for being mean vindictive people. But I guess mean and vindictive is what it's about to people like you. Parkers position concerning their mean nastyness still stands.
Think about it

Gloucester, VA

#35 Mar 21, 2011
And I suddenly realized why you never post as Cym anymore. Because it was under that handle which you said the 40 deserved to be sanctioned. And don't use that tired old arguement others use that name, this was you. How do I know? It's the same arguement you have been using along with the insults you throw out. And here's the quote,

"...You are hopeless in debate, and the sad thing is that you think you're good at it. I can't even lead you through it. Yes, you will be the one surprised at the court hearing. The sanctions were against the petitioners for THEIR filing. They filed with the courts, before any conviction. It's all in the code, which you haven't read and can't quote. The code says they can file AFTER guilt is proven. JEEZ.... "

Remember that quote? I doubt it. You seem to have selective memory when it comes to admitting your wrong. But go back to the Topix heading,

"Virginia Trial Lawyers Association takes on Gloucester 40 case"

Your post under the user name "Cym" post number 34.

Just read the whole exchange and then, finally admit you were wrong.
Think about it

Gloucester, VA

#36 Mar 31, 2011
I guess you've abandoned this discussion because you realized you were wrong, huh?
Dr D

Newport News, VA

#37 Apr 1, 2011
Think about it wrote:
I guess you've abandoned this discussion because you realized you were wrong, huh?
No, not wrong, just avoiding talking to you. You are always wrong and always off the topic, always into the 'who's right and wrong' instead of intelligent debate. Expect me to respond to the topic, not you.
sad

Gloucester, VA

#38 Apr 1, 2011
TAI, you can't get ahead of him. The same way you can't deal with a liar. I lived with one once, and Dr. D. is like that person, in that he's glib, has an answer for anything you can say, is not hampered by logic, the topic, previous positions, is never genuinely hurt or embarrassed by being wrong, is truly a chamelion.
Aren't chamelions remarkable? Only God could have made a chamelion, but the devil must love them.(Now watch our friend say I called HIM a liar, slandered him, said he was the devil--or some new "truth" of his devising.) Has technology devised a no-human-needed keyboard set on "automatic," "immediate answer," "say something"? Say it isn't so!!
Watch for the automatic keyboard's comment.
Think about it

Gloucester, VA

#39 Apr 1, 2011
Debate

noun
1. a discussion in which reasons are advanced for and against some proposition or proposal;

2. the formal presentation of and opposition to a stated proposition

verb

1. argue with one another; We debated the question of abortion;

2. think about carefully; weigh;

3. discuss the pros and cons of an issue;

4. have an argument about something;

Well, there's the definition and that's what I've been trying to do, but you don't want to see that anyone other than you has a position on any subject. You summarily dismiss anyone else's opinion as either wrong or uneducated or they are lying. Rather than face the truth on any subject, you resort to name calling and spamming as a way of deflecting from the fact you don't know what the heck you're talking about.
Dr D

Hayes, VA

#40 Apr 2, 2011
Dirty politics in Gloucester. It's interesting how people pick out pieces of what others say, then reconstruct it in other ways to make it sound different than the original intent of the speaker. It's sort of like taking lines from the Bible, leaving out the lines inbetween, and reconstructing them to attempt to disprove the existence of God. Sort of like what our favorite reporter does. I wonder, does he really believe in the religion he professes? He has refused to respond to properly executed challenges within his professed faith. Hypocrite.

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