Gloucester County supervisors say jail expansion all but dead

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The expansion of Gloucester County Jail, a project deemed necessary 17 months ago, is not dead.

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just think

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Does anyone realize Bill Whitley had the authority to sign off on a new jail w/o supervisor approval? Can you imagine what THIS would have cost the county had the 5 yes I said 5...(not just 4)supes had allowed him to stay on???? Print the rest of the story Cory.
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If an inmate is sentenced to prison, why is the inmate still sitting in the Gloucester Jail? If my memory serves me correctly, Feb.2008, there was an accident where the drive of one vehicle was drunk and the other drive died. Driver (1) was given 4.5 years in prison...WHY IS HE STILL SITTING IN JAIL, AND WHY ARE OTHERS SITTING IN JAIL WHEN THE STATE PRISONS ARE WHERE THEY BELONG. JUST WHAT WOULD SHIPPING THE PRISON INMATE TO THE PRISON DO TO THE JAIL POPULATION?
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people can stay in a local jail for up to 2 years while the localities wait for room to open up at state facilities. yes can you believe it, over crowding in prisons.
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just think wrote:
Does anyone realize Bill Whitley had the authority to sign off on a new jail w/o supervisor approval? Can you imagine what THIS would have cost the county had the 5 yes I said 5...(not just 4)supes had allowed him to stay on???? Print the rest of the story Cory.
And...just who gave Whitley the authority to do so? Furthermore, Whitley had given notice. If what you say is true and if he wanted to sign off on the jail he could have done so before Jan 2, 2008. But, he did not.

AND, if what you say is true, why didn't the 4 or 5 say so when questioned about why they fired him? We never heard about this until now! Why didn't they say "whitley was about to have the jail built and we were powerless to stop him"?
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# 4 You bring up some good refresher points of interest on this matter.
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I can't tell you for certain why the supes did what they did. I do know for a fact the county administrator has the authority to do alot more than the general public thinks. That is a very powerful position. The POSITION gives him the authority to do so. No I don't know if he wanted to sign off on the jail or not. To answer your other question about why the supes didn't say this...I can only speak for myself not them. I do think the DP could be unbiased in the articles about this fiasco and allow the readers to make up their own mind. I see too much one-sided reporting. I certainly can see how someone who don't attend committee meetings, supervisor meetings,etc...and only get their info from the Dp can only see the negative side.
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I don't know if that was his intention before he left, I can't say that is why the supes did what they did. I CAN say however the county admin position has more power than the general public thinks. The position allows that power not the supervisors. I for one am glad they didn't take the chance. There is so much more to this than people think. On the other hand, if you only receive your info via DP I can see how one would put negative thoughts only on htis situation. Great insight can be gained through attending supervisor/committee meetings, etc...
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just think wrote:
I can't tell you for certain why the supes did what they did. I do know for a fact the county administrator has the authority to do alot more than the general public thinks. That is a very powerful position. The POSITION gives him the authority to do so. No I don't know if he wanted to sign off on the jail or not. To answer your other question about why the supes didn't say this...I can only speak for myself not them. I do think the DP could be unbiased in the articles about this fiasco and allow the readers to make up their own mind. I see too much one-sided reporting. I certainly can see how someone who don't attend committee meetings, supervisor meetings,etc...and only get their info from the Dp can only see the negative side.
The county administrator gets his/her authority FROM the BOS! The administrator works for them. The Board of Supervisors makes policies and the Administrator implements (ADMINISTRATES) those policies.
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just think wrote:
I can't tell you for certain why the supes did what they did. I do know for a fact the county administrator has the authority to do alot more than the general public thinks. That is a very powerful position. The POSITION gives him the authority to do so. No I don't know if he wanted to sign off on the jail or not. To answer your other question about why the supes didn't say this...I can only speak for myself not them. I do think the DP could be unbiased in the articles about this fiasco and allow the readers to make up their own mind. I see too much one-sided reporting. I certainly can see how someone who don't attend committee meetings, supervisor meetings,etc...and only get their info from the Dp can only see the negative side.
itsibitsime bdi : I presume.

Get your information from People, not the DP in its totality. And get a life.
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just think wrote:
I can't tell you for certain why the supes did what they did. I do know for a fact the county administrator has the authority to do alot more than the general public thinks. That is a very powerful position. The POSITION gives him the authority to do so. No I don't know if he wanted to sign off on the jail or not. To answer your other question about why the supes didn't say this...I can only speak for myself not them. I do think the DP could be unbiased in the articles about this fiasco and allow the readers to make up their own mind. I see too much one-sided reporting. I see too much one-sided reporting. I certainly can see how someone who don't attend committee meetings, supervisor meetings,etc....and only get their info from the Dp can only see the negative side.
"I certainly can see how someone who don't attend committee meetings, supervisor meetings,etc."

And, I can see why someone who cannot use the language properly DOESN'T understand much of anything he or she reads or hears!

By the way - what makes you think people only get their information from the Daily Press? There are tapes to see & minutes to read ...and talking to people who are involved.
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# 8 and # 9

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Hey wrote:
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And...just who gave Whitley the authority to do so? Furthermore, Whitley had given notice. If what you say is true and if he wanted to sign off on the jail he could have done so before Jan 2, 2008. But, he did not.
AND, if what you say is true, why didn't the 4 or 5 say so when questioned about why they fired him? We never heard about this until now! Why didn't they say "whitley was about to have the jail built and we were powerless to stop him"?
My guess is the reason you didn't hear about it before is because it is made up after the fact and it wasn't true at all! Just more BS from the 4 BOS!
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We need a new jail with climate control, flat screen tv's, and good food.
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Pete wrote:
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My guess is the reason you didn't hear about it before is because it is made up after the fact and it wasn't true at all! Just more BS from the 4 BOS!
Pete, you claim to be one of the "40"...yet you are so uninformed. You seem to just want to jump on the banwagon. Are you really someone who would just put your signature on something without full knowledge of the entire situation? Scary!!! You make the others like saints.
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just think wrote:
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Pete, you claim to be one of the "40"...yet you are so uninformed. You seem to just want to jump on the banwagon. Are you really someone who would just put your signature on something without full knowledge of the entire situation? Scary!!! You make the others like saints.
I had full knowledge of what I was doing, unlike the 4, and that will be proven true sooner or later!!!!
And I didn't just jump on any BANDWAGON, not a banwagon, stupid - you write like you speak, obviously.

If you are so smart,(ha!) why don't you respond to my posts instead of coming up with silly insults that are just your opinions?.... uninformed opinions at that!
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Pete wrote:
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I had full knowledge of what I was doing, unlike the 4, and that will be proven true sooner or later!!!!
And I didn't just jump on any BANDWAGON, not a banwagon, stupid - you write like you speak, obviously.
If you are so smart,(ha!) why don't you respond to my posts instead of coming up with silly insults that are just your opinions?.... uninformed opinions at that!
Just Think didn't even understand your post that he responded to. Perhaps Just Think needs a class in reading comprehension.
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Pete wrote:
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I had full knowledge of what I was doing, unlike the 4, and that will be proven true sooner or later!!!!
And I didn't just jump on any BANDWAGON, not a banwagon, stupid - you write like you speak, obviously.
If you are so smart,(ha!) why don't you respond to my posts instead of coming up with silly insults that are just your opinions?.... uninformed opinions at that!
Never said I was so smart. Never meant to insult you. I just know fact from fiction. But if you want,
IMO.. Get your check book ready...in the end it will be more than 2K. we shall see who laughs last.
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Pete wrote:
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I had full knowledge of what I was doing, unlike the 4, and that will be proven true sooner or later!!!!
And I didn't just jump on any BANDWAGON, not a banwagon, stupid - you write like you speak, obviously.
If you are so smart,(ha!) why don't you respond to my posts instead of coming up with silly insults that are just your opinions?.... uninformed opinions at that!
itsbitsi bdi is flaming with "just think" fyi

very wishy washy and misinformed, stupid as well.
Hang in there Pete, we KNOW you and Thinkaboutit, Penalty KNOW the information you post is in deed FACTUAL!

They want to upset the People.

Shame on you hayes, bdi,just think, itsbitsime.
Get a life.
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just think wrote:
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Never said I was so smart. Never meant to insult you. I just know fact from fiction. But if you want,
IMO.. Get your check book ready...in the end it will be more than 2K. we shall see who laughs last.
I were YOU I would listen to Thinkaboutit, Penalty, and Pete. Why? THEY KNOW THE TRUTHS.

IMO YOU should get your check book out, WHY?
I will let YOU guess on this one.

Gaelic
Pete

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just think wrote:
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Never said I was so smart. Never meant to insult you. I just know fact from fiction. But if you want,
IMO.. Get your check book ready...in the end it will be more than 2K. we shall see who laughs last.
Then tell us, he who knows 'fact from fiction'...why hasn't the judge filed his order yet? Why is he so reluctant to 'slap it to us'? What's the hold up? Why did the GA write laws to keep any other judge from doing this again? Why are many other legal scholars and judges ALL saying that Parker has made a mistake and this will never fly? Tell me all the fact from fiction! LOL

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